TV Nonces dealt with.

[Windom Earle]

Males generally take four times longer than women to disclose abuse. Even when the perpetrator has been convicted for abusing others an individual is too scared, ashamed to mention their own abuse. It just takes one person to speak of their experience and it encourages others to come forward.

And if people think this sort of thing was exclusive to the 70s and 80s they're mistaken. It's very much a present day problem.

I think your last point is very significant.


It's saddening and horrific that there are people out there who are having to live with the mental scars of this historical abuse. They have been robbed - as youngsters - of not only their innocence, but in many cases the chance to do something they really love; just play football.

This isn't about abuse in the 70s or 80s, this is about abuse in football. Same as Yewtree was not and is not just about Jimmy Saville, it is about the entertainment industry as a whole in this country.

It's brave people like the ones we've had come forward recently, that show us where we need to shine the spotlight.

Somebody earlier on the thread pointed out that Danny Murphy had said there was more to come - and that that could relate to Crewe, historical abuse or the current situation. There could be young players out there being abused by authority figures in the game right now and, arguably in this day and age, the prize that these abusers can claim to offer might be even more effective in stopping these victims coming forward than it was back then.

 

[localny]

you cant be offside In a game of 5 aside..

I think that's the point 🙂

 

[HC]

no , it didn't make sense ...

you've brought a knife to a gun fight,kid

 

[localny]

no , it didn't make sense ...

you've brought a knife to a gun fight,kid

Did he fire five or did he fire six?

 

[dantes]

There aren't the words to express how utterly I disagree with that idea. People wouldn't have that choice for long if at all. Microchipping people would be humanity's single biggest step towards submission to Big Brother.

The paedophile politicians will be chipped as well. There is no big brother, except for an algorithm monitoring and processing all the data. Say for example I get shot whilst walking down the street, the chip could be linked to my vitals and immediately dial out for medical assistance, and calculate the response time. If its linked to a nanobot chemical factory implant, then it can search google for the optimum medicinez, download its chemical formula, synthesize it and secrete it into your body whilst you wait for the ambulance.

Or if the chip identifies that you are bumming a kid based upon your respective locations and vitals, then it can secrete a poison to kill you.

 

[cloggypop]

dantes can't wait for the singularity.

 

[localny]

Reminds me I haven't seem bladerunner in years

 

[Ryan]

I want to agree with you but I can't.

We all have to have our own off switch. If we don't like what we read , we can choose to ignore. I know it's hard and I felt uncomfortable reading some of the off the cuff stuff but we are not all the same and it would be boring if we were.

The thing I'm uncomfortable about in life in general now, is that the art of debate is clouded by people taking stances. Opinion is just that, opinion. You're not wrong and neither are the people who we perceive made light of the subject. People just react in different ways. If we accept that not everyone thinks the same way, we would have less silos, less pigeon holing and potentially far improved debating.

It's only my opinion of course.

Ps I used to get offended all the time on here and other social media. Now that I do that far, far less, I'm finding life far more relaxing. I can't and don't to make everyone agree with or feel the same way, it's not a realistic goal.

Sure, and that's your prerogative - I don't have an issue with that.

I found it irritating (as did others it seems), as I said. Quite why that warranted the stream of personal abuse it got though I'm not sure.

 

[Athens]

Sure, and that's your prerogative - I don't have an issue with that.

I found it irritating (as did others it seems), as I said. Quite why that warranted the stream of personal abuse it got though I'm not sure.

You touched a nerve. I think it's because he's mates with woody Allen, who is also a nonce. Allegedly.

 

[gkmacca]

That really is pathetic, even by the low standards of this place.

 

[Athens]

Damn. I was hoping for a bile-filled rant like what Ryan got.

 

[dantes]

That really is pathetic, even by the low standards of this place.

If you look closely, this place has a pretty high standard for everything, so it has to make a conscious effort to lower them to an appropriately entertaining level.

 

[gkmacca]

You sound like the head of ITV.

 

[cloggypop]

Barry Bennell is hospitalised

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38134941...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

 

[dantes]

I do hope it was not some sort of suicide attempt. Hopefully it was just someone who broke into his home and has been beating the ever loving shit out of him for the last couple of days and nights.

 

[Spionkop69]

Sure, and that's your prerogative - I don't have an issue with that.

I found it irritating (as did others it seems), as I said. Quite why that warranted the stream of personal abuse it got though I'm not sure.

Oh I found some of it irritating too, I just let that feeling of irritation subside before I posted. Otherwise, I'd have jumped in with two feet, both guns blazing like I've done in the past.

Never got me anywhere previously really. I'm not preaching to others, I'm just saying that for me in these situations, if I react then it usually ends up in me being over the top, then feeling guilty to myself quietly etc.

So I've tried to change tack, it works for me when I apply that strategy. I just need to be consistent with application!

I've become a huge believer that to my choice how I react to things, people can't make me react, it's my choice. Subconscious or not.

Anyway, I'm being boring now, so I'll shut up.

 

[Spionkop69]

If only you were interesting or clever

I bet he really felt the pain as this one tickled his chin...!

 

[Spionkop69]

What i'm curious about is the timing ?

This Bennell lad was convicted years ago of sexual abuse. So how did it take so long for allegations to come out or for the reporting of them ?

Well everyone "knew" about Jimmy Savile and look how long it took for that to unravel.

 

[Spionkop69]

If you can bear to watch it then watch the full interview with Victoria Derbyshire with the 4 footballers. It's on the BBC website.

Look at the haunted looks on their faces. Listen to the relief that they've been able to come forward because someone else has. Very brave men and I hope they find the strength to deal with this now, and restart their lives without the shackles the abuse clearly had on them mentally.

 

[Ryan]

Suffering Jesus.

 

[Rosco]

MBE

 

[Leo]

I've served that ignorant alcoholic gambling yellow fingered mess in a few different pubs and that definitely would be his form.
Arrogant prick of the highest order.

 

[Athens]

Today I learned that darts players are proper men.

 

[LarryHagman]

Barry Bennell is hospitalised

Too much slimfast?

 

[6TimesaRed]

One thing out of this, pyres show how corrupt the FA are..

They new this was going on, yet they choose to do fuck all about it....

Inept shoehouse of an organisation..

 

[Woland]

Absolutely - I've only got up to your comment so far (page 3) and the 'banter' towards the subject at this point is grating.

There are a great many parents on this board, I'm shocked at the tone really.

Chris Unsworth has said he was raped 50-100 times by around age 12, there's no banter in this - pick another subject.

He must have looked like a chicken kiev

 

[localny]

He must have looked like a chicken kiev

Ah jaysis Woland. Sick.

 

[cloggypop]

The Crafty Cocknocker just got sacked by Sky

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...-sports-role-twitter-sex-abuse-story-comments

 

[manwithnoname]

Suffering Jesus.

I'm not in a position to debunk Eric's view that darts players are tough guys, but I'm pretty certain that football is probably a more fertile hunting ground for predatory homosexual paedophiles for a few reasons, the main one being that there aren't many U-11 darts teams.

 

[gkmacca]

Poor Eric has been through his own hell:

“I got dartitis in 1987, a psychological condition which means you can’t let your darts go properly,” explained Eric.
“For a time I wondered what the hell I was going to do if I didn’t recover".