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Tweets and other comments like Bristows' seem to occur all too often around sensitive news stories like this.
Do Sky et al not give these guys PR training of any sort, or is that they do but Bristow and the like are just as stupid as they appear? You would think it would be in the broadcasters' best interests to make sure they are behaving themselves publicly because their reputation can end up tarnished too.
Do Sky et al not give these guys PR training of any sort, or is that they do but Bristow and the like are just as stupid as they appear? You would think it would be in the broadcasters' best interests to make sure they are behaving themselves publicly because their reputation can end up tarnished too.
Mine certainly does.
He tried throwing in the towel but just couldn't let go of it properly.
I'm very surprised Eric said those things, he's normally so eloquent.
Well, I always wanted Jocky Wilson to beat you Bristow, you big fucking cockney cunt.
Cheating bastard never drank enough whilst Jocky was swilling them back.
Cheating bastard never drank enough whilst Jocky was swilling them back.
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Stumbled upon this earlier, it would be a struggle to find a more banal collection of quotes
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/eric_bristow.html
This is my favourite
'I don't read books'
-Eric Bristow
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/eric_bristow.html
This is my favourite
'I don't read books'
-Eric Bristow
I had a feeling we'd see evidence of a massive cover-up shortly, but paying hush money to the family of an abused child?
Good Lord.
Apparently the pay off was in the last 3 years as well. So we'll after the event, people have come forward and they've been hushed
Gonna be a domino effect now. Loads of people will come out the woodwork.
This guy sounds seriously creepy, and the general attitude in many clubs at that time was so lax and lazy god knows how typical he was.
Eddie Heath was once described as a man who “spent a lot of time in his office, decorating and cooking meals for the schoolboy players”.
That testimony came from World Cup winner Geoff Hurst during a London industrial tribunal in 1980 sitting in response to Heath’s claims he had been unfairly dismissed from his job as Chelsea’s chief scout.
Hurst joined the club as player-manager in the summer of 1979 and dismissed Heath in November that year with an ex-gratia payment of £7,500.
Heath had been responsible for identifying some of the club’s leading players, including Ray Wilkins, Gary Locke, Steve Wicks, John Bumstead and Tommy Langley, during more than a decade at the club but Hurst delivered nothing short of a character assassination when Heath contested his departure.
The club’s counsel, Mr Roger Evans, said: “Mr Hurst watched a trial match of 27 schoolboy players who had been selected by Mr Heath and was absolutely appalled by what he saw.
“Only one or possibly two of these boys were potential material for the club.
“The chief scout was spending his time hanging around the club premises and not out in the field. He was never north of Watford — never travelling around the country.”
Hurst added himself: “I had two options: to reprimand him and give him a kick up the backside or terminate his employment there and then.
“I felt the more drastic action was needed for the benefit of the club.
“He spent a lot of his time in his office, decorating and cooking meals for the schoolboy players. He even built a partition during his time there.”
The tribunal found that correct procedures had not been followed and awarded Heath £1,920 in compensation, although that figure was subsequently set against his initial ex-gratia payment after another appeal.
Heath coached some teams at Senrab in the 1960s and 1970s, alongside his work at Chelsea. Wilkins spoke in 2011 about how Heath would recommend youngsters should join Senrab for match practice.
“They focused on passing, dribbling and tackling which I guess is why Eddie wanted us to go there,” said Wilkins.
Senrab club secretary Tony Carroll has been associated with the club since 1992 but played for a rival team and for London representative teams.
He said: “As soon as this story started breaking, he came to mind.
“Heath ran East London District sides and also helped with some of the sides at Senrab. If you played for Chelsea as a youngster, Heath took you to Senrab.
“There were loads and loads of rumours about him, stories that he used to get into the showers with the kids.
“I’ve been told that by many people. Kids would talk to each other and we’ve been aware of rumours about him for nearly 50 years.
“It’s possible that now this has come out, more people will come forward, although it may be that it is difficult for some as it all happened such a long time ago. Thank God nothing like that ever happened to me.
“Heath wanted to take me to Chelsea when I was a youngster but at the time, I wanted to join West Ham.
“There are suggestions this was rife among people who worked in that era.
“It is very different now, not like it was years ago. In those days everything was hushed up or swept under the carpet. You could hide anything and everything.
“Kids are more aware of these dangers today. We didn’t have the same awareness.”
Heath worked at Leyton Orient as part of the coaching set-up in the 1950s and 1960s before joining Chelsea.
Testimonies about Heath during this period are rare but former youth team goalkeeper Peter Chapman recalls his experiences during his time at the club in a book entitled Out of Time: 1966 and the End of Old Fashioned Britain.
Chapman writes: “Both he [Tommy Coleman] and fellow coach Harry [Spinner] reported to Eddie Heath, the dark eminence of Orient’s youth outfit. Eddie, black-haired well over six feet tall, sat in the office in the bowels of the stadium where the weekly team-sheets went up.
“He ultimately decided whose names went on them.”
In a later passage, Chapman describes Heath in greater detail. There is no suggestion of any impropriety and Chapman never describes himself as a victim of abuse in any form.
“At the end of our training sessions, Eddie would make sure to get along to the dressing room as we arrived back at the stadium,” he wrote. “We would hear his deliberate gait and steel-edged shoes heading towards us along the concrete corridor, perfectly timed as we slipped out of our gear and towards the communal bath.
“While we wallowed in the soapy scum — showers would only replace this dressing-room feature with the arrival of HIV in the 1980s — he sat on its raised edge, smiling and enjoying the de-briefing, as it was, of how training had gone.”
Eddie Heath was once described as a man who “spent a lot of time in his office, decorating and cooking meals for the schoolboy players”.
That testimony came from World Cup winner Geoff Hurst during a London industrial tribunal in 1980 sitting in response to Heath’s claims he had been unfairly dismissed from his job as Chelsea’s chief scout.
Hurst joined the club as player-manager in the summer of 1979 and dismissed Heath in November that year with an ex-gratia payment of £7,500.
Heath had been responsible for identifying some of the club’s leading players, including Ray Wilkins, Gary Locke, Steve Wicks, John Bumstead and Tommy Langley, during more than a decade at the club but Hurst delivered nothing short of a character assassination when Heath contested his departure.
The club’s counsel, Mr Roger Evans, said: “Mr Hurst watched a trial match of 27 schoolboy players who had been selected by Mr Heath and was absolutely appalled by what he saw.
“Only one or possibly two of these boys were potential material for the club.
“The chief scout was spending his time hanging around the club premises and not out in the field. He was never north of Watford — never travelling around the country.”
Hurst added himself: “I had two options: to reprimand him and give him a kick up the backside or terminate his employment there and then.
“I felt the more drastic action was needed for the benefit of the club.
“He spent a lot of his time in his office, decorating and cooking meals for the schoolboy players. He even built a partition during his time there.”
The tribunal found that correct procedures had not been followed and awarded Heath £1,920 in compensation, although that figure was subsequently set against his initial ex-gratia payment after another appeal.
Heath coached some teams at Senrab in the 1960s and 1970s, alongside his work at Chelsea. Wilkins spoke in 2011 about how Heath would recommend youngsters should join Senrab for match practice.
“They focused on passing, dribbling and tackling which I guess is why Eddie wanted us to go there,” said Wilkins.
Senrab club secretary Tony Carroll has been associated with the club since 1992 but played for a rival team and for London representative teams.
He said: “As soon as this story started breaking, he came to mind.
“Heath ran East London District sides and also helped with some of the sides at Senrab. If you played for Chelsea as a youngster, Heath took you to Senrab.
“There were loads and loads of rumours about him, stories that he used to get into the showers with the kids.
“I’ve been told that by many people. Kids would talk to each other and we’ve been aware of rumours about him for nearly 50 years.
“It’s possible that now this has come out, more people will come forward, although it may be that it is difficult for some as it all happened such a long time ago. Thank God nothing like that ever happened to me.
“Heath wanted to take me to Chelsea when I was a youngster but at the time, I wanted to join West Ham.
“There are suggestions this was rife among people who worked in that era.
“It is very different now, not like it was years ago. In those days everything was hushed up or swept under the carpet. You could hide anything and everything.
“Kids are more aware of these dangers today. We didn’t have the same awareness.”
Heath worked at Leyton Orient as part of the coaching set-up in the 1950s and 1960s before joining Chelsea.
Testimonies about Heath during this period are rare but former youth team goalkeeper Peter Chapman recalls his experiences during his time at the club in a book entitled Out of Time: 1966 and the End of Old Fashioned Britain.
Chapman writes: “Both he [Tommy Coleman] and fellow coach Harry [Spinner] reported to Eddie Heath, the dark eminence of Orient’s youth outfit. Eddie, black-haired well over six feet tall, sat in the office in the bowels of the stadium where the weekly team-sheets went up.
“He ultimately decided whose names went on them.”
In a later passage, Chapman describes Heath in greater detail. There is no suggestion of any impropriety and Chapman never describes himself as a victim of abuse in any form.
“At the end of our training sessions, Eddie would make sure to get along to the dressing room as we arrived back at the stadium,” he wrote. “We would hear his deliberate gait and steel-edged shoes heading towards us along the concrete corridor, perfectly timed as we slipped out of our gear and towards the communal bath.
“While we wallowed in the soapy scum — showers would only replace this dressing-room feature with the arrival of HIV in the 1980s — he sat on its raised edge, smiling and enjoying the de-briefing, as it was, of how training had gone.”
That is just.....appalling
Really is. People seemed kind of clueless though. I remember the guy in our club who went to jail. He was creepy as hell, unmarried, and always too involved in the kids activities. The alarm bells would be going off like crazy today.
Why?
Really? What's a question? For me, an unmarried man in his 50's, always a little too keen to give kids a ride to matches, no women on the scene, coupled with kids talking funny about him. Would ring a few alarm bells for me every day of the week.
This is my future
The nonce part or the fear of nonces part?
When I was a kid I got lost in the crowd watching the changing of the guard, I must have known even at that age that it was pointlessly boring shit and wandered off. Fortunately some random guy saw I was alone, and decided to pick me up and put me on his shoulders so my parents could see me. That would never happen now for fear of looking like a nonce, or even worse for fear of the kid thinking you're a nonce and going straight for your eye sockets.
Ha. That's actually true.
If I see a kid lost now (often happens in he playground of my boys school cos it's broken up into three sections & kids run off) the first thing I do us get one of my kids to make sure they don't go anywhere instead of grabbing them myself, then ask the nearest adult if they belong to them so it's apparent if I then grab the kid why I've done it.
That's not my first instinct, nor should it be in an ideal world, but it's necessary.
A couple of months back I was waiting to cross the road when a kid about Isabelle's age (three) ran past us on to the road whilst it was busy. I quickly scooped her up, & she screamed. Her mum, finally looking up from her phone & noticing her kid wasn't beside her, then angrily asked me what I thought I was doing grabbing her kid. Thankfully Luke set her straight immediately at which point she shut the fuck up.
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