TV Nonces dealt with.

[gkmacca]

A peripheral issue I know, but it's pretty depressing to think how Souey, supposedly a no-nonsense disciplinarian of a manager who 'brought in modern fitness and nutrition ideas from Italy,' presided over a team in which Barnes was practically subsisting on a diet of Big Macs, Nicol was addicted to crisps, Dicks was bingeing on chips, Ruddock was eating sarnies on the exercise wheel and then pouring a bottle of water over his head to look like he'd been sweating heavily while working out, and Stewart was tooting coke on a regular basis:


“I could get it at any place, any time I wanted it. I don’t know how I managed to perform on the pitch. At times that is why I was not chosen. Liverpool manager Graeme Souness asked me if I was taking drugs. I just denied it. Someone had told him that it was the case, and he questioned me about it.

“Marijuana stays a lot longer in the system, in the hair for example. But with cocaine, it goes very quickly and I would take that on a regular basis. I was tested for drugs, but it was random and I took the risk. I got away with it.”

 

[localny]

I'm not sure it's a coincidence, or just yet another example of lunatic left fringe attempts at equality and sexual liberation for everyone (including children!), but PIE actually existed as an affiliate of the NCCl (now Liberty) for about a decade in the late 70s early 80s.

Simply incredible.

What are those acronyms?

 

[Woland]

An old mate ran a diving school by the docks - you needed divers to go fix things on boats and dig shit up by lock gates and stuff, but anyways kids who used to bunk off school would go hang out round there, and he felt sorry for them, most of them didn't have many adults looking after them or anything, so he used to take them to snowdonia in his van if he got a bit of time off, go fishing and swimming and all that good healthy stuff. Anyways one day after him doing this for ages a parent or teacher said he needed vetting coz what if he's a paedo and all that, and he fine with that, didn't mind a bit of structure putting in place... but on going through the checking procedure he was banned from working with kids because one day many years earlier he'd shoved a mars bar up his own arse for a bet in a public bar and the police had got involved in this lewd act of chocolatey nonce-sense, so the kids couldn't have any boss days out anymore. It's political correctness gone footballers wages.

 

[gkmacca]

Back on the main topic: it amazes me that football's greatest crook, perv and raving loon, Don Revie, hasn't yet been dragged into this:

Talk about grooming!


And finally - look away now, kids - here he is - while England manager - massaging Kevin Keegan's thigh...

 

[Oncy]

Nah, I was grand as me Dad was always around the football. They did go for the more vulnerable, they have a radar for that of course.

Nice try with a sicko joke though!

Woah dude I wasnt calling you a sicko.
Sheesh.

 

[localny]

Back on the main topic: it amazes me that football's greatest crook, perv and raving loon, Don Revie, hasn't yet been dragged into this:

Talk about grooming!


And finally - look away now, kids - here he is - while England manager - massaging Kevin Keegan's thigh...

Janey Mack!!

 

[Judge Jules]

I'm not sure it's a coincidence, or just yet another example of lunatic left fringe attempts at equality and sexual liberation for everyone (including children!), but PIE actually existed as an affiliate of the NCCl (now Liberty) for about a decade in the late 70s early 80s.

Simply incredible.

Wasn't Harriet Harman (among others) shown to have spoken up for them at one stage?

 

[Judge Jules]

What are those acronyms?

Not sure about the second one but PIE stands for "Paedophile Information Exchange".

Er, so I'm told.

 

[cloggypop]

In June 2015, documents emerged as a result of a BBC freedom of information request that revealed the then Conservative Home Secretary, Leon Brittan refused to support a bill designed to outlaw PIE because he considered the law on incitement of sexual activities with children to be "not so clear".[51][52]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange

 

[manwithnoname]

Not sure about the second one but PIE stands for "Paedophile Information Exchange".

Er, so I'm told.

They were affiliated with the NCCL/ Liberty, which claims to have no political affiliation, but obviously does, with Harriet Harman, that twat Chakrabati, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey being involved Over the years, and a clear left/ Labour bias

At the time the NCCL was linked by affiliation with a pro-paedophile group (PIE) they stated that 'there is no evidence that sex with children does them harm'

So there was a clear pro-paedophile approval within the NCCL, which they apologised for many years later, claiming they had been 'infiltrated by paedophiles' - although what this infiltration consisted of is unclear, given PIE always stood for Paedophile Information Exchange when they were an officially recognised affiliate group of the NCCL

Perhaps a desire to encourage 'human rights for all' blinded some of them to the real intentions of the carefully named Paedophile Information Exchange, which, amazingly, actually wanted the rights for adults to legally have sex with children. Such clever subterfuge

I'm not surprised they changed their name to Liberty, but the acknowledgment of their batshit mistakes were a bit too fucking late

It's genuinely astonishing

 

[leftpeg]

Hmmm. @gkmacca, tell me those stories about Kevin aren't true...you know, the one about the night he was beaten up in his car?

 

[cloggypop]

More people coming forward now

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/23/david-white

 

[Oncy]

Money to be made. Claims to be raised. Book deals to sign...

 

[localny]

Money to be made. Claims to be raised. Book deals to sign...

More like healing to be done, I would imagine

 

[gkmacca]

Hmmm. @gkmacca, tell me those stories about Kevin aren't true...you know, the one about the night he was beaten up in his car?

Untrue. He had someone try to beat him up in a layby when he'd dozed off but the rest is pure myth.

 

[dantes]

The FA should charge him for bumming kids, but stress that he is not a paedophile.

 

[gene hughes]

I hear there's some guy called Alamy who has loads of dodgy images of young players. When will it end!?!?

 

[Oncy]

More like healing to be done, I would imagine

Youre right of course. Brave little soldiers.

 

[Ryan]

Must say, I find the cavalier, joking attitude in this thread to what is essentially child sex abuse quite irritating.

Why's it acceptable to throw up petty innuendoes, and flippant comments to that subject?

 

[localny]

Must say, I find the cavalier, joking attitude in this thread to what is essentially child sex abuse quite irritating.

Why's it acceptable to throw up petty innuendoes, and flippant comments to that subject?

It's not.

 

[Oncy]

Youre right Ryan.
Apologies.

 

[gkmacca]

If anyone on here feels the need to make clear that they're opposed to child abuse and take the matter seriously there's something wrong with this place and something wrong with them. It would be pretty inappropriate to discuss the subject seriously in a football forum. What people have discussed here are peripheral matters contained in or prompted by the general reports, which I don't think merit any self-righteous rebuke. Jog on.

 

[Oncy]

Youre right Macca.
Im not sorry.

 

[manwithnoname]

Youre right Macca.
Im not sorry.

Ahahahahahaha!

I saw your flippancy for what it was, Oncey - a coping strategy

 

[tombrown]

Youre right Ryan.
Apologies.

Youre right Macca.
Im not sorry.

You should be apologising for an extraordinary lack of apostrophes

 

[Judge Jules]

You should be apologising for an extraordinary lack of apostrophes

IMO they're better left out than misused by being scattered around like confetti, which is the usual problem.

 

[localny]

IMO they're better left out than misused by being scattered around like confetti, which is the usual problem.

guilty as charged your honor

 

[6TimesaRed]

I have Sympathy for those that have been through this.. I was played with when I was a young kid by our Child Minder, A guy I used to see as my Father Figure, as my 'Proper Dad' never paid me any attention, and when he did it was usually a kick up the arse...

I used to be forced to play 'Sex Games' on my sister (unbeknown to me at the time that's actually what they where), by this Twat.. I have had councilling and I've spent most of my life blanking it out.. All for the right reasons partly as I know I was never to blame.. The only things that bothers me now is as a really young kid I thought their was nothing wrong with it, I used to get up mischief with others and my sister struggled with the 'abuse' she was earlier subjected too as she approached her teens.. If only you could turn back the clock..

Recently she has been asked to go to the Police to report it.. But she doesn't want too as it will dig up massive wounds for her, and we have both moved on with our lives for the better.. I respect that decision and whilst I'd like to see that Dickhead get what he deserves, I am a firm beleiver in what goes around comes around.

 

[The Nomad]

Hopefully you will get the closure and justice you need @RedNinja

In regards to the specific thread, I kind of get where Andy is coming from with the comments book deals to be had etc. While not all players will escape 'unnamed', our media are on a witchhunt for scraps of information. The ones who have been named (bar the initial whistle blower) really didn't need to make statements or sell their version of the story to the media, It's just my opinion of course. They should be seeking Justice through the courts.

 

[Oncy]

Ahahahahahaha!

I saw your flippancy for what it was, Oncey - a coping strategy

Hold me!!! *puts up arms*