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Turkish Kabak..

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Agreed. Mind you, there's nothing wrong with a short corner so long as there's quick and decisive movement in the box!
 
I worry a bit about his recovery pace and acceleration, however he's built ridiculously strongly for a twenty year old, and will add some physicality at the back. He'll also provide an increased threat at corners, so we can hopefully drop the abysmal short corner routine.

No way is he a threat at corners, he's only 6ft1. He can't defend, and he can't attack. What can he do? Where is there a place for 6ft1 players in the modern game? You don't get anywhere being a 6ft1 short-arse, everyone knows that.
 
Le Tiss was the worst. Merse forced himself to be impartial 95% of the time, and was very complimentary about us last season.
I don't get why Le Tiss hates us so. Didn't we ditch a proposed transfer or something? Is that what has him so full of hatred?
 
I worry a bit about his recovery pace and acceleration, however he's built ridiculously strongly for a twenty year old, and will add some physicality at the back. He'll also provide an increased threat at corners, so we can hopefully drop the abysmal short corner routine.
Actually we seemed to throw every corner straight into the box vs. West Ham ... which was a bit more than perplexing considering they are the tallest team in the PL.
 
I worry a bit about his recovery pace and acceleration, however he's built ridiculously strongly for a twenty year old, and will add some physicality at the back. He'll also provide an increased threat at corners, so we can hopefully drop the abysmal short corner routine.
Sven Mislintat who's the director at Stuttgart and recommended him to Klopp described him as a "Lovren type of player". Shuddering at the thought.

If you look at his clips, there's a certainly a bit of Lovren in him. Very strong and aggressive and likes to win the ball high, but equally capable of being rash and stupid.

Now Lovren when fit and on form was capable of being very very good, so here's hoping that this guy can be the best version of Lovren and cut out all the other bullshit that Lovren used to get up to.
 
Sven Mislintat who's the director at Stuttgart and recommended him to Klopp described him as a "Lovren type of player". Shuddering at the thought.

If you look at his clips, there's a certainly a bit of Lovren in him. Very strong and aggressive and likes to win the ball high, but equally capable of being rash and stupid.

Now Lovren when fit and on form was capable of being very very good, so here's hoping that this guy can be the best version of Lovren and cut out all the other bullshit that Lovren used to get up to.
He's 20 yrs old. He's clearly a Klopp project.
 
Sven Mislintat who's the director at Stuttgart and recommended him to Klopp described him as a "Lovren type of player". Shuddering at the thought.

If you look at his clips, there's a certainly a bit of Lovren in him. Very strong and aggressive and likes to win the ball high, but equally capable of being rash and stupid.

Now Lovren when fit and on form was capable of being very very good, so here's hoping that this guy can be the best version of Lovren and cut out all the other bullshit that Lovren used to get up to.

The positive side to that is that he's only 20. Lovren was more or less reaching his peak when we signed him. Klopp has talked about this lad being intelligent, so hopefully that's the difference.

I think the one thing we have to take on board is that if anyone can shape potential into a World Class player, it's Klopp. Ben Davies might never have made that progression elsewhere (same with Andy Robbo), but with the right environment he might hit his natural ceiling and beyond. If Klopp gets the right mentality of player then you can be sure that's half of his battle, it's as imperative as having the actual quality to succeed.
 
The amount of wild over-reaction on here is crazy. Someone likens him to Lovren and suddenly he's being denounced for possessing Lovren's brain, nervous system, wife, dog, tastes in food, family tree, etc etc. Just wait and see the bloody player play, and then start assessing what you think of him. Fucking hell!
So you're saying Kabaks wife will have an affair with an old friend... gotcha.
 
I foresee him being great, if you put yourself in his shoes he will be aware that if he impresses then the big monies await him. Working like a psycho and playing your heart out for a few months is quite doable when there's a pot of gold waiting for you. We'll duly hand him his five year deal at the end of the season, foolishly believe we've uncovered a gem, and that's the precise moment he'll start living the life, baklavas for breakfast all summer long, and then come next season he'll have completed his transformation into full Lovren.
 
The positive side to that is that he's only 20. Lovren was more or less reaching his peak when we signed him. Klopp has talked about this lad being intelligent, so hopefully that's the difference.

I think the one thing we have to take on board is that if anyone can shape potential into a World Class player, it's Klopp. Ben Davies might never have made that progression elsewhere (same with Andy Robbo), but with the right environment he might hit his natural ceiling and beyond. If Klopp gets the right mentality of player then you can be sure that's half of his battle, it's as imperative as having the actual quality to succeed.
Agreed
 
I foresee him being great, if you put yourself in his shoes he will be aware that if he impresses then the big monies await him. Working like a psycho and playing your heart out for a few months is quite doable when there's a pot of gold waiting for you. We'll duly hand him his five year deal at the end of the season, foolishly believe we've uncovered a gem, and that's the precise moment he'll start living the life, baklavas for breakfast all summer long, and then come next season he'll have completed his transformation into full Lovren.
If he wins us the league I'm not arsed if he comes out next season looking like John Barnes does now
 
Sven Mislintat who's the director at Stuttgart and recommended him to Klopp described him as a "Lovren type of player". Shuddering at the thought.

If you look at his clips, there's a certainly a bit of Lovren in him. Very strong and aggressive and likes to win the ball high, but equally capable of being rash and stupid.

Now Lovren when fit and on form was capable of being very very good, so here's hoping that this guy can be the best version of Lovren and cut out all the other bullshit that Lovren used to get up to.
Yes, I also got them vibes but I was too fearful to say it. That said, the lad is twenty years old, is surely less cock sure of himself, and hasn't released an owl branded fashion line, so he's got that in his favour over Dejan.
 
Every time we sign anybody, ever, I'm just relieved that we didn't have the internet around when we signed some half decent players back when I was a snapper...

Alan who?!?! From Partick what!?!?!? Some skinny cnut called 'Rush'... From f@#$ing Chester?!?!?! Reggie Whelan... From back home on his farm?!?!?!?!?! If this Dalglish bloke is sooooooo good, why are Celtic selling him?!?
 
Here's how it works:

  1. Watch a three minute video with really great musical accompaniment - bumphhh-jangle-jangle, damn yeah uh-hu, bumphhh-jangle-jangle, damn yeah uh-huh... - of a player, you know, doing things.
  2. Decide that as the video showed him 'being aggressive,' and 'tackling,' he reminds you of someone doing that on and off for 90 minutes.
  3. Ignoring the fact that lots of defenders do that - instead of, presumably, wandering around practising ballet moves - decide which defenders you really hate do that and jump to the conclusion that you've just signed the same player all over again.
  4. Also note that, unlike all other defenders, 'he's probably got a mistake in him,' and now you get really mad...
 
Here's the alternative of how it works:

If you allow yourself to be happy, the neurons in your brain fire off in a multitude of ways all over the place, and to get from there to a state of depressing nothingness could happen through uncountable numbers of pathways.
If you resign yourself to defeat from the outset, your neurons are far closer to the actuality of defeat, so there's a limited number of paths for your brain to get from the idea to the reality, but on the flipside the paths to the happy ending are now plentiful.​
Therefore, to maximise the probability of you being in the universe where kabak becomes a good signing, you have to eliminate all remnants of joy and satisfaction from your cognitive process. Or failing that, you can eliminate someone else's cognitive functions through other unspoken means, thereby bringing down the total number of neurons in the universe, which ought to tilt the odds in your favour without you having to be unhappy yourself.​
 
Here's the alternative of how it works:

If you allow yourself to be happy, the neurons in your brain fire off in a multitude of ways all over the place, and to get from there to a state of depressing nothingness could happen through uncountable numbers of pathways.
If you resign yourself to defeat from the outset, your neurons are far closer to the actuality of defeat, so there's a limited number of paths for your brain to get from the idea to the reality, but on the flipside the paths to the happy ending are now plentiful.​
Therefore, to maximise the probability of you being in the universe where kabak becomes a good signing, you have to eliminate all remnants of joy and satisfaction from your cognitive process. Or failing that, you can eliminate someone else's cognitive functions through other unspoken means, thereby bringing down the total number of neurons in the universe, which ought to tilt the odds in your favour without you having to be unhappy yourself.​
and so the mystery of Hal is revealed
 
I don't get why Le Tiss hates us so. Didn't we ditch a proposed transfer or something? Is that what has him so full of hatred?

Not aware of that. He claims he once turned Liverpool down but whether that is true, who knows.

I always assumed that he hates us because we kept signing Southampton's best players
 
Kabak says his idol is VVD and he is trying to model himself on him = fans ignore it as an irrelevance.

Someone likens Kabak to Lovren = fans immediately condemn him before a ball has been kicked. They of course wanted us to sign someone unaggressive, averse to tackling and without 'a mistake in him'. That player. How much more does he cost, by the way, and remind me what team he plays for?

One of the many reasons why football is now such a desperately moronic pasttime.
 
Every time we sign anybody, ever, I'm just relieved that we didn't have the internet around when we signed some half decent players back when I was a snapper...

Alan who?!?! From Partick what!?!?!? Some skinny cnut called 'Rush'... From f@#$ing Chester?!?!?! Reggie Whelan... From back home on his farm?!?!?!?!?! If this Dalglish bloke is sooooooo good, why are Celtic selling him?!?

Bill Shankly becomes Liverpool Manager

@Modo where the ambition in that.. He not exactly ripping it up at Huddersfield was he ?

@Rosco another fucking drab Socialist cunt [emoji102]
@Richey @peterhague @dantes likes this

@oncy We are reaching the promised land with Shanks.. whose in Spartacus's army ? We are going up.. !!

@Halmeister During the season that saw Everton go on to win the league Title.. We will definitely finish above Everton this season.. I can feel it in my bones

@Dreambeliever prior to Shanks sticking the whole team Pretty much on the transfer list.. 'doesn't need to do much with the team . Core is there.. He just needs to install beleif'

@dantes He's needs to develop Nixon type approach to management with this lot..

@mark1975 if he needs players I've a few kids he can have..

@6TimesaRed after shankly failing to gain promotion in his first season.... 'Sack Shanks'
 
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Kabak says his idol is VVD and he is trying to model himself on him = fans ignore it as an irrelevance.

Someone likens Kabak to Lovren = fans immediately condemn him before a ball has been kicked. They of course wanted us to sign someone unaggressive, averse to tackling and without 'a mistake in him'. That player. How much more does he cost, by the way, and remind me what team he plays for?

One of the many reasons why football is now such a desperately moronic pasttime.
The amount of information we can get our hands on nowadays is scary. The way we interpret it is even more so.
 
The amount of information we can get our hands on nowadays is scary. The way we interpret it is even more so.

It's called polysemic paralysis. You tell someone a player is slow, medium-paced and fast; clever, cool and hot-headed; bad in the air and good in the air; solid but flaky; and like Lovren but not like Lovren, and some people stagger off thinking what random combinations of this that they make are at all illuminating and rooted in truth.
 
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