I’ve completely forgot he ever played for us. The overhead kick against Norwich was amazing though
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I’ve completely forgot he ever played for us. The overhead kick against Norwich was amazing though
Was against Watford
Surely it was Rooney not Can
(a) Its an insult to United so kudos to him for that
(b) He was very professional in playing to the best of his abilities even after signing his pre-contract agreement
Precisely. He'd figured more than once in previous rumours regarding various clubs (Ferguson definitely had him scouted, for one) without ever really looking like he'd go. I'd have been surprised whoever he joined, let alone when it turned out to be us.
I could care less if he went there. Dont think he solves their problems at all.
He was regarded as a potential elite player but there were always doubts over his finishing ability - from memory he wasn't a consistent scorer at A.Madrid.
I've probably mentioned this before but the season before he left, I watched A.Madrid get thrashed by Barca and he looked totally fed up and remember thinking he'd had enough. By that point, it wasn't a surprise that he was willing to go.
If Owen went there and we sort of did not give a shit then, I think we can live with Can going there.
Does that mean Barca are unable to pay up the rest of the Coutinho fee ?
Great talent that hasn't been fully realized. Would be a great Klopp "project", but the price may not make sense. Barcelona paid a stupid amount for him and are already going to lose money on Coutinho when/if he goes, so could they afford, or be willing to, sell another big purchase at a loss? He's not a 100M player.
Potentially, theyve offered the managers job to Xavi and hes knocked them back. All while Valverde is still in the job waiting to be paid off.
They need to raise funds for a massive rebuilding job there. Pique, Alba, Busquets, Rakitic, Vidal, Suarez, Messi are all the wrong side of 30 on massive wages. Meanwhile Suarez is out for probably the rest of the season with injury. They are in big trouble long term with that squad.
He was unbelievable last season, prompting comparisons with Lewadowski and Shevchenko, but completely ineffective this season, which is why Milan are willing to sell. Interestingly, he cited Harry Kane as his role model.
It has nothing to do with us because we've already received all the pending payment, it's the banks that Barcelona is owing.
As of Oct/Nov last year there were reports they still owed us €100m whats changed since then?
It also however doesn't make sense to hold on to a player whose value will only drop further as his contract runs down and who is not considered a regular first team player with long term prospects in your squad.
It's classic sunk cost fallacy bias. Researched definition : This fallacy, which is related to loss aversion and status quo bias, can also be viewed as bias resulting from an ongoing commitment. Best to recoup whatever you can rather than lose even more in the long run and not have the funds to reinvest.
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Uhm... I know everyone read the headlines.
https://www.businessinsider.my/barc...lion-for-philippe-coutinho-2019-10/?r=US&IR=T
But...
We sold the debt to a bank on a discount, which I believe we took a haircut off the bonus payment they would owe us on the add-ons. So Barcelona now owe the banks instead of us.
Probably guessing we could make back most of the discount in interest.
Why wouldn’t we see any of it if we’ve already sold it? How much did we get for the debt?
I think there's a fee involved and from my guess work on how banks conduct their business as collection agency, they would go for a percentage as fees.
Don't mind too much on those sensationalist headlines and write ups. We all know well enough what John Henry does for a living, he's in the financial industry, and very well versed on how to minimise losses. I actually read it at twitter from a journalist who interviewed our CEO last year that the debt is to the banks and we have collected a fair sum, the principal sum of £106m. Will find it when I get the time and post it here.
Either way, I don't think our owners and the people running the finances would be silly to allow someone like Barcelona and Real Madrid, well known for late payments to hold us by the balls.
Not my point, I know how it works. I'm just saying if we had to wait 3-4 years to collect then reinvesting the discounted money would likely recoup a substantial amount of the fee involved. I could be wrong of course !
Liverpool’s last published accounts (May 2018) show £7.8m due after May 2019 and everything else payable this year (that’s in total, not just the Coutinho transfer). I think what’s happened here is that Barcelona have done something with a bank to give themselves more time to pay their debts (NB they signed Dembele in that same period as well so they will have a lot to pay off). I don’t think LFC has lost out at all here.
UEFA has quite strict rules about paying off transfer fees and clubs can be kicked out of Europe if they don’t pay up (or UEFA will withhold prize money and pay it to the club who is owed money first).
Nothing to see here from LFC’s perspective, but I’d be concerned if I was a Barca fan, especially since neither player looks to be worth what they paid for them. Probably explains why they couldn’t finance a deal for Neymar last summer as well.
It’s pretty common for clubs in Continental Europe, less so in England. If English clubs are short of cash they tend to discount their EPL media revenue - quite a few mid/lower table clubs have done this (mostly with Macquarie Bank I think). I doubt LFC or any other club near the top of the table would do it. I’m sure we’d be able to just borrow more cheaply off our bank if we needed to but think the club/FSG are too careful to do even that unless there’s a legitimate one-off reason (NB we borrowed off FSG for the Main Stand which was at a low rate of interest, so either FSG has lots of spare cash or can borrow cheaply).
It is quite common to sell your debt to a bank to collect for you when your debtors skipped one payment that scheduled to for collection. That way one would reduce risk significantly and free up some cash for business operations.
It's the never ending rumour that one.
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