Transfer rumours

[FoxForceFive]

Harry MaGuire joined united from Leicester 😉

Apparently he did it purely for footballing reasons 😀

He did, he saw the young CB behind him & realised he'd end up on the bench this season unless he went to a worse club.

 

[Treboeth]

He did, he saw the young CB behind him & realised he'd end up on the bench this season unless he went to a worse club.

Pisstaker 😀

 

[dee]

He did, he saw the young CB behind him & realised he'd end up on the bench this season unless he went to a worse club.

LOL.

Every year that goes by with United bobbing around the Europa League places begins to cement the idea that joining them would not be being part of THE major renaissance for a wounded giant but more the trickle of talent required to keep the revenues flowing to keep the Glasiers' in champagne. I think Woodward et al are going to really struggle with top talent next summer. Mercenaries only!

 

[CT_LFC]

Not concerned about Gini. Fantastic player, and if both he and Jurgen want for him to be at Liverpool, he will be.

 

[binomial]

Inter in advanced talks to sign Ashley Young.

WTF

 

[moron]

Inter in advanced talks to sign Ashley Young.

WTF

Not really - once you start getting older and a bit slower in our league, you are just about right for the Italian league.

 

[King Binny]

[article]Trabzonspor president Ahmet Agaoglu has confirmed that the club have received an offer from Liverpool for goalkeeper Ugurcan Cakir.

Cakir has impressed for the Turkish side so far this season, having appeared in 16 of his side’s Super Lig games this term and making 24 outings in total.

Previous reports have linked the 23-year-old with a move to the Premier League, with the Reds, West Ham and Manchester United all linked in recent weeks.

It is not clear if all of the aforementioned teams are keen on the stopper, but Agaoglu has now confirmed that Liverpool have made a concrete approach for the player.

Indeed, the club’s president hinted that Liverpool could even get the deal over the line.

“There are offers for Cakir, we continue to receive offers. It’s been said Liverpool have made an offer,” the club’s president said in quotes cited by The Metro.

“So a team that is undefeated in the Premier League wants my keeper. In other words Liverpool’s goalkeeper is in my goal.”

Liverpool lost Simon Mignolet to Club Brugge in the summer but were quick to find a back-up goalkeeper soon after, with Adrian joining at the start of August.

Adrian made an incredible impression after just four days at his new club, saving the final penalty which won the Reds the UEFA Super Cup against Chelsea.[/article]

 

[Roopy]

Simeone has come out and said he is looking to sell Lemar in January or in the next window.

Looks like we dodged a bullet with Lemar - has struggled quite a lot at Atletico

 

[Frogfish]

It’s been said Liverpool have made an offer,” the club’s president said in quotes cited by The Metro.

It's been said .. by who ? BS. And it's The Metro just to compound it !

 

[juniormember]

It’s been said Liverpool have made an offer,” the club’s president said in quotes cited by The Metro.

It's been said .. by who ? BS. And it's The Metro just to compound it !

If it were true though, I imagine we’re getting offers for Adrian after his very solid performances, and perhaps he’s keen to play every week now that he has some potential suitors?

 

[Frogfish]

If it were true though, I imagine we’re getting offers for Adrian after his very solid performances, and perhaps he’s keen to play every week now that he has some potential suitors?

Don't know mate. I know he very recently said he was at 'the best club for him'. It seems he's really happy here and why not, he's played more than he thought he would and clearly feels part of the squad, not an outsider as I think Ming felt after being dropped. At his age does he want to play every week ? It's a bit like the Lallana situation .. stay and win trophies (we hope) or play for a mid-table team for nothing but money (and even then likely not as much) ?

 

[doctor_mac]

Adrian has already shown how great it is to have a dependable reserve keeper. If we can give him a cup run then he'll end up having a season with more highs than he'd have had as number one in some mid table club.

 

[Modo]

Adrian has already shown how great it is to have a dependable reserve keeper. If we can give him a cup run then he'll end up having a season with more highs than he'd have had as number one in some mid table club.

Absolutely, he's been very important for us this season. I hope he stays next season, but I think we're going to get some offers for him this summer.

 

[lfc.eddie]

Simeone has come out and said he is looking to sell Lemar in January or in the next window.

Looks like we dodged a bullet with Lemar - has struggled quite a lot at Atletico

I came to believe that we were never in for him but Fabinho. He's probably being used as smokescreen to throw everyone off, with United thinking the deal is as good as done, we dropped Lemar on January and took Fabinho in the summer. Now that's one hell of a smokescreen right there.

 

[Dreambeliever]

I wonder if when he said Klopp was like a father to him he was only messing?

Ronaldo has said Ferguson was like a dad to him too

 

[Dreambeliever]

Utd are a mid table team now, whilst Leicester are a team with top 4 and recent league winning pedigree, if he goes there, with the state of their squad, it's purely for the money as he'll be giving up all hope of winning anything with that manager.

That’s just a silly incorrect statement and one rival fans said about us for 20 years yet we still managed to win a lot of trophies.

Like or not Utd are still a huge club and if they get the right manager back in they’ll be in the mix again. Just like we were under ged, then Rafa, then Rodgers and now Klopp.

 

[Frogfish]

That’s just a silly incorrect statement and one rival fans said about us for 20 years yet we still managed to win a lot of trophies.

Like or not Utd are still a huge club and if they get the right manager back in they’ll be in the mix again. Just like we were under ged, then Rafa, then Rodgers and now Klopp.

Not without a major overhaul though. At least to get them challenging for the PL again. Probably their squad needs 9-10 players and that's at least 3 seasons work (as for sure some will fail to impress) and even then that's only with the right manager (Pochettino)? I doubt we'll see United challenging for the PL until 2022/3 and even then that's only if everything works out (manager, players, coaching). Otherwise who knows, it could be a long long time. The last 5-6 seasons have flown by 😀

 

[HC]

Allan is in the final six months of his contract, still unable to get a UK work permit and we've somehow got £3.2m plus 10% sell on values for him , selling him to Atletico Mineiro

 

[Judge Jules]

Our transfer operations are unrecognisably better than they used to be not all that long ago. How the Mancs could do with a similar set-up.

Shame innit.

 

[Mors]

That’s just a silly incorrect statement and one rival fans said about us for 20 years yet we still managed to win a lot of trophies.

Like or not Utd are still a huge club and if they get the right manager back in they’ll be in the mix again. Just like we were under ged, then Rafa, then Rodgers and now Klopp.

He signed for a team with Solskjaer as the manager. He would have known at that point they are winning fuck all and are in a state, they need an entire rebuild top to bottom, and probably new owners. By the time they've sorted themselves out, got themselves a new manager, and got right back in the mix - he'll be retired.

I shouldn't laugh probably due to the pain we've been through with it, but it looks like they've gone into the era of Souness>Rafa, or even Souness>Rodgers that we went through, where we were a 'big club' but couldn't win any of the big trophies. Imagine utd having 20-30yrs of it like we had, fantastic.

 

[Judge Jules]

They've been there, done that once already when Matt Busby left. I doubt they'll get relegated like they did back then (down to what's now the Championship within 6 years of winning Bigears) but in other ways this is starting to look encouragingly like a re-run.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Difference now is united are billion pound club and have enough money to pay silly wages for a few more years yet

 

[Judge Jules]

Don't really buy that TBH. They occupied a similar position relative to most other clubs in English football when Busby left.

As for silly wages, if they're signing players who only care about that they won't be signing the kind of professionals who'll pull them back up the table.

 

[dee]

Difference now is united are billion pound club and have enough money to pay silly wages for a few more years yet

Isn't that part of the point. They ARE already paying silly wages for players that are either not good enough or pretending to be injured/requiring surgery. Even if they sell they will have to honour contracts which will be very expensive and cut down on the funds available to replace.

Finally they will be in the same place as us five years ago. Which leading or very promising player is going to bet their career on United getting it right and coming good again? Aside from money they haven't got a platform at the moment.

They will just about make the Europa League again next season, they've no chance of qualifying for the Champions League. Playing in the Europa League actually makes it harder for them to get back on track due to the volume of matches in, possibly, very remote locations.

They do have some good hard working young players but not enough to form the core of anything like Fergies 'kids' of the early 90's. They've tried all the big name managers and its not worked out for them. We can all see OGS is not up to it. So where do they go? The only obvious answer would be getting in Pochetino and offloading a shit load of dross whilst buying amazingly well.

Unlikely.

 

[Ukrainian by marriage]

Great, innit ? 🙂

 

[Markeh]

They’re similar to Everton at the moment. Money, yes, but every manager is living with the shite brought in by the last guys and the output isn’t improving fast enough to appease owners or fans.

 

[dee]

Actually another stat to track is attendances. United had been still getting full houses for EPL games up until the Everton game on 15th December. All the cup games and Europa League have been way down (65-70%) apart from the Semi vs Citeh which was, surprisingly, not sold out.

If EPL attendances start to drop the Glaziers may well get properly concerned.

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[manwithnoname]

United are still minted and pay top wages, so all they really need to do is sack Ole and get a top manager in, and improve their scouting and recruitment.

True, that will take a while, but they're probably only a good appointment away from recovery, or at least improvement.

The current situation under Ole and Woodward is, however, quite reminiscent of the post-Kenny Souness era; still enough money and clout to attract and get expensive, highly-rated players, and even the odd bargain (Saunders, Wright, Jones, Stewart, Ruddock, James, Thomas, Clough), but too many were disasters, or not quite right and the squad was therefore filled up with players who just weren't good enough and couldn't even hold a candle to their predecessors (McMahon, Beardsley, Rush, Gillespie, Hansen, Grobelaar, etc)

There was the occasional glimpse of quality and hope, the odd bit of domestic silverware, but simply no consistency and horrible results were just as likely as good ones, despite the sky-high level of expectation and (relatively) recent success.

 

[keniget]

United are still minted and pay top wages, so all they really need to do is sack Ole and get a top manager in, and improve their scouting and recruitment.

Easier said then done as we've found.

That being said, if they do manage to make a couple of good appointments they've got the money to capitalise on it, which we didn't always have (e.g. with Rafa).

I don't think their team is that bad anyways. They've clearly got a couple problem areas but a decent transfer window or two under the right manager would have them challenging for European spots properly again.

 

[Peatcheo]

There has been some Allegri to United rumours recently.