Transfer Rumours 21/22
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I am also watching youtube vids on my monitor.
That is definitely the way we do business, I think. Not sure about the Lemar and Allison switch though. From my memory, once Karius collapsed in the CL final, Allison was on, no matter what. I might be wrong about that.
If we had gotten Tchouameni, maybe we not have let Mane leave, maybe let Bobby leave? Difficult to predict but I doubt we would have gotten Nunez if we had bough Tchouameni.
Not the title?
Yeah, but sign on fees, agent fees, wages, bonuses, club investments apply to other clubs also, Momo.
By the way, the more rational posters here are not screaming for us to buy, buy, buy. Their view is to get a midfielder in now and be ok with one less player purchase next summer.
Yes, we are an incredibly planned organization with clear views on how to proceed. We do spend a lot of money. And we only need to spend what we generate. But at some crisis points, you do need to dip into an extra pot. This is one such occasion.
Maybe we are not spending because the right player is not available. But sometimes perfection can be the enemy. It worked out when we waited for VVD and Allison. But it did not with Keita.
Folks point to Konate as an example of our strategy but forget that on January 30th, we panicked and had a bid for Caleta Cjar (sp?). He was waiting at the airport in Marseille for clearance to travel to LFC which did not happen because Marseille could not find a replacement. If that transfer had happened, we would not have bought Konate. So we did not exactly stick to our guns and wait for the perfect player.
We are going to lose three midfielders next summer - Milner, Ox, Keita. At least I hope we are going to lose Keita. If Klopp campaigns for a new contract for Keita and he signs it, we deserve everything we are going to get. I am assuming we will buy at least two. Bring one of those purchases forward.
We'll eventually move on to "discuss internally" and maybe even "express interest"
2 great signings - a little surprised that Newcastle isn’t all over Paqueta to be honest - him and Bruno G would be good together.
Isak has always looked impressive when playing for Sweden, so if Newcastle get that version, they’ve done well.
Whatever the situation is now, we definitely needed to sign a midfielder this transfer window, because ultimately we know we will be 2 - 3 short next season due to expiring contracts. The reliability of the current ones was always a doubt as last year it just so happened we had maybe just over a month when most of them were fit, and that was that - they still became f*cked up at the end in the CL final.
Great post.
Particularly the point about perfection. It went through my mind earlier today.
Great post! You know we’re in the shits when even I’m calling for a new midfielder.
Though the stance within Liverpool is that Naby Keita is happy and will not leave before the end of the transfer window, another Bundesliga club is now interested.
The summer transfer window closes at 11pm on September 1, and there are still a number of Liverpool players who could be on the move.
A decision will be made on the futures of Nat Phillips and Sepp van den Berg, with much depending on the fitness of more senior centre-backs, while a host of youngsters could head out on loan.
Most intriguing, though, is the situation surrounding Keita, who, according to reports in Germany, is “unhappy” with his game time and considering an exit.
The Guinean has under a year left on his contract, and if Liverpool are to recoup any of the £52.75 million they paid to sign him from RB Leipzig in 2018, they would need to sell either this summer or in January.
But word from within the club is that Keita is not for sale and talks will continue over an extended deal, with Jurgen Klopp insistent he has not heard of any discontent from his No. 8.
Leipzig have already been credited with an interest in re-signing Keita, however, and now the Mirror‘s David Maddock has named Dortmund among his suitors.
That obviously presents the enticing prospect of a player-plus-cash deal with Dortmund for long-time Liverpool target Jude Bellingham.
It is highly unlikely – near impossible – that Dortmund will allow Bellingham to leave this summer, with a transfer instead expected in 2023, but perhaps a similar, delayed deal to that which brought Keita to Anfield could be struck.
However, that would still leave Klopp short a midfielder for now if Keita were sold before the deadline, with the manager himself stating that in the unlikely event the 27-year-old were to go, “there must be a replacement.”
“Selling Naby now? And not replacing him? No, that’s not possible. Of course not. But it’s not the plan,” he told reporters last week.
“We are not dumb, so that we think a player can go and we don’t replace him. No, that’s not true.
“Naby will not go, but if he would – which he will not do – there must be a replacement. Of course, that’s clear.”
The summer transfer window closes at 11pm on September 1, and there are still a number of Liverpool players who could be on the move.
A decision will be made on the futures of Nat Phillips and Sepp van den Berg, with much depending on the fitness of more senior centre-backs, while a host of youngsters could head out on loan.
Most intriguing, though, is the situation surrounding Keita, who, according to reports in Germany, is “unhappy” with his game time and considering an exit.
The Guinean has under a year left on his contract, and if Liverpool are to recoup any of the £52.75 million they paid to sign him from RB Leipzig in 2018, they would need to sell either this summer or in January.
But word from within the club is that Keita is not for sale and talks will continue over an extended deal, with Jurgen Klopp insistent he has not heard of any discontent from his No. 8.
Leipzig have already been credited with an interest in re-signing Keita, however, and now the Mirror‘s David Maddock has named Dortmund among his suitors.
That obviously presents the enticing prospect of a player-plus-cash deal with Dortmund for long-time Liverpool target Jude Bellingham.
It is highly unlikely – near impossible – that Dortmund will allow Bellingham to leave this summer, with a transfer instead expected in 2023, but perhaps a similar, delayed deal to that which brought Keita to Anfield could be struck.
However, that would still leave Klopp short a midfielder for now if Keita were sold before the deadline, with the manager himself stating that in the unlikely event the 27-year-old were to go, “there must be a replacement.”
“Selling Naby now? And not replacing him? No, that’s not possible. Of course not. But it’s not the plan,” he told reporters last week.
“We are not dumb, so that we think a player can go and we don’t replace him. No, that’s not true.
“Naby will not go, but if he would – which he will not do – there must be a replacement. Of course, that’s clear.”
I'd honestly even take 5.
I'm tired of the inability to stay healthy.
He's had the potential to be so good imo.
Such a waste of talent.
I can't help but feel that our transfer committee is more interested in protecting their transfer success rate than taking a risk, looking at what is needed, and addressing the issues in a reasonable time. By the way, I have no inside info on our transfer strategy and I know my "feeling" is most likely irrational and dumb.
I also want to point out that FSG can point to Keita, Ox, Hendo and Milner extension, Thiago and say it is not their fault. They have backed the manager. They might be correct to do so.
The way our transfer committee and Klopp have handled the midfield evolution has not been great. But our transfer committee/manager combination has been as close to perfection as possible in the football world. I cant remember any club in history in any period of time which just nailed so many of their transfers - again and again and again.
Yes, they made a mistake with respect to midfielders. That has been their Achilles heel. FSG can choose to "punish" Klopp for that mistake or recognize that there is an inbuilt failure rate for any transfer and their team has outperformed the norm by a significant margin. Let us go an extra mile and cover their backs for the times they dropped the ball.
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I felt weird even posting that. Quite a few upper echelon FSG members are self-made rich men. John Henry did not become a billionaire by saving money and investing in a savings account. It is not as if they need us to push them to speculate a bit.
Given the wage differential between us and Dortmund, we might very well have to let him go for free.
For £16m he's a warm body and that's what we need. Snip at that price (if true - I saw £35m just a day or so ago, can't believe they've more than halved it).
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What do you expect? I mean like seriously. Without City we'd likely have 4 PLs and this wouldn't even be a conversation. So whilst I agree FSG could have supported him more, using a trophy count when City have spent £1.5B is a bit rich. Unless you think spending another £100m or so would have made a difference - it may have or it may not. However there's absolutely no certainty about it.
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