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Did they change it? Now it says: "transforming consumers into fans."
Yup mate they changed it.
These cunts aren't Hicks and Gillette, and that's the only positive thing I have to say on them.
What?
He want a fight. If I'm a troll then he is the big mega troll.
Quite. But it's all about that bunch of Fred Kites in their self-appointed role as our spiritual leaders. If they want to make a symbolic point, boycott some games, don't do an impression of Geordies.
And their cheapest ticket costs € 15, the most expensive one € 70.
It all depends on what the protest is trying to achieve. If it's to gain publicity about a protest regarding ticket prices then to a degree it's already worked as there is an article on BBC news about it, however the article also mentions that the club have decreased or frozen 64% of season ticket prices without putting that figure into any sort of context. For example my season ticket for the kop has decreased by £3 from £735 to £732 which equates to 15 pence cheaper per game. It's almost like they are trying to take the piss but more likely that they can then claim to have lowered prices on thousands of tickets when the reality is that's it's really the same.
The club is now more media savvy than ever before (highlighted by them changing the FSG website regarding the fans to customers thing) and they look for any opportunity to paint the club in a good light and so they can be seen to be responding to fans grievances or complaints when for the most part they ignore the fans views or do the barest minimum whilst spinning the narrative to their benefit.
I'm not a member of any supporter group ( I'm agree with Groucho Marx when it come to joining things ) so i have no vested interest in publicising their protests or endless battles with the club for more representation and consultation but at least they seem to have the supporters interests at heart whilst Liverpool only have interest in your wallet.
How many other fans would put up with cramped seating arrangements (we are packed in like sardines) , overpriced food and drink which isn't even any good , kick off times that can vary wildly and for anyone that has kids, work commitments or travel arrangements to take into account make it a logistical pain in the arse, coupled with the high cost of tickets which is ridiculous compared to other teams in the region.
When it comes to protesting maybe the best way to get heard would be to target FSG like they did with Hicks and Gillete in regards to disruption of their interests rather than fan walkouts. The best way to be recognised is by hitting them in the pocket which walking out isn't going to do.
If someone is a regular and consistent pain in the arse then eventually you will do something about it and at the moment and i don't think FSG will be at all bothered by it but if they are bombarded by emails or have continual bad publicity then they may do something.
It's hard though not to feel a bit sour about the way football in general and my club in particular are operating.
The club is now more media savvy than ever before (highlighted by them changing the FSG website regarding the fans to customers thing) and they look for any opportunity to paint the club in a good light and so they can be seen to be responding to fans grievances or complaints when for the most part they ignore the fans views or do the barest minimum whilst spinning the narrative to their benefit.
I'm not a member of any supporter group ( I'm agree with Groucho Marx when it come to joining things ) so i have no vested interest in publicising their protests or endless battles with the club for more representation and consultation but at least they seem to have the supporters interests at heart whilst Liverpool only have interest in your wallet.
How many other fans would put up with cramped seating arrangements (we are packed in like sardines) , overpriced food and drink which isn't even any good , kick off times that can vary wildly and for anyone that has kids, work commitments or travel arrangements to take into account make it a logistical pain in the arse, coupled with the high cost of tickets which is ridiculous compared to other teams in the region.
When it comes to protesting maybe the best way to get heard would be to target FSG like they did with Hicks and Gillete in regards to disruption of their interests rather than fan walkouts. The best way to be recognised is by hitting them in the pocket which walking out isn't going to do.
If someone is a regular and consistent pain in the arse then eventually you will do something about it and at the moment and i don't think FSG will be at all bothered by it but if they are bombarded by emails or have continual bad publicity then they may do something.
It's hard though not to feel a bit sour about the way football in general and my club in particular are operating.
I know this is cynical, but there is part of me that thinks that the reason these supporter groups are doing this is to try and establish some sort of power.
What kind of power?
In the face of FSG. ILD phrased it better.
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There is a supporters committee. That needs to be used, and be seen to be used, and then either shown to be an effective means of communication or a waste of time. Then there's a basis for protest of a more unconventional nature. SOS has always resented the committee because they aren't running it, and their ludicrous version of the old labour aristocracy has always regarded their pre-eminence among supporters as more important than the needs of the supporters as a whole.
The new tv deal coming in absolutely dwarfs the amount this price hike is going to generate. The club is about to be engulfed in a tsunami of cash, especially if we eventually qualify for the CL. It is a shame FSG won't back their rhetoric with a real statement of intent by reducing ticket prices, I've been priced out of it for years.
I'd also like to add that I'm not accusing the SOS of being power hungry. I haven't really noticed them being that vocal in a while either. I think they have a habit of trying to speak on behalf of all fans, as if it's one voice. The reality is that we don't all share their views but I suppose we should also be grateful to them if they help improve our club or drive down ticket prices.
I appreciate the efforts of fan groups and supporters committees to try and improve things for the average supporter as most people (myself included) are too lazy or apathetic to do anything about it. If not for the pressure that applied though various means to Hicks and Gillette then the club may have been bankrupt a few years ago and as much as we were relieved that FSG rescued us from financial ruin it must be remembered that they got us for a knock down price as we were worth much more both in real terms and future potential in a financial sense.
Again it's all very well stating that they have invested money into the club in playing staff but the way they have spent money has been so hit and miss (mostly miss) that it seems largely irresponsible. One minute we are told that the club will only be buying players under 23 years of age then the next minute we get Kolo Toure and James Milner in. Also we were assured that english players were the way to go as they knew the league and would settle in quicker , then it was foreign players as you get better value even though we still largely over paid for them.
Then there's the process of buying a player , give him a few starts and maybe some substitute appearances and then before you know it he's sent out on loan never to return. Madness which I think Klopp is trying to rectify.
The scouting department was for so long pretty hopeless and didn't unearth anyone that you couldn't see on Match of the Day, hopefully Klopp has better contacts than previous managers. There are still bargains to be had both on the continental market and at home but how often do we take advantage of this.
gkmacca has mentioned plenty of times that the medical staff has still not replaced the Doctor that left last season and it's not like we've had any injury problems is it.
The club doesn't miss a trick when it comes to financial matters but on the playing side it's mystifying sometimes as to whether they have a plan or just make it up as they go along.
Again it's all very well stating that they have invested money into the club in playing staff but the way they have spent money has been so hit and miss (mostly miss) that it seems largely irresponsible. One minute we are told that the club will only be buying players under 23 years of age then the next minute we get Kolo Toure and James Milner in. Also we were assured that english players were the way to go as they knew the league and would settle in quicker , then it was foreign players as you get better value even though we still largely over paid for them.
Then there's the process of buying a player , give him a few starts and maybe some substitute appearances and then before you know it he's sent out on loan never to return. Madness which I think Klopp is trying to rectify.
The scouting department was for so long pretty hopeless and didn't unearth anyone that you couldn't see on Match of the Day, hopefully Klopp has better contacts than previous managers. There are still bargains to be had both on the continental market and at home but how often do we take advantage of this.
gkmacca has mentioned plenty of times that the medical staff has still not replaced the Doctor that left last season and it's not like we've had any injury problems is it.
The club doesn't miss a trick when it comes to financial matters but on the playing side it's mystifying sometimes as to whether they have a plan or just make it up as they go along.
Give the return key a rattle every so often will ye Davud?
Fuck me.
But they don't even try to elicit opinions from outside of their tiny, precious, little enclave. They're the Fabians of the football world, dripping with contempt for the people they ostensibly represent, whilst quietly lamenting the fact that so few people are as enlightened and important as they are. They can feck right off.
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Really? They've expanded the stadium as promised and invested in the team.
They've also gotten us Jurgen Klopp.
The whole transfer committee and Comilli etc are obviously wank.
We'd been in a much better state if they had a football man in charge from the start.
But all in all they've been pretty good.
Just like to say, I appreciate the plan of the walkout etc... But the 77th minute, against Sunderland, at an untelevised match...
It reeks of "they didn't discuss the tickets with us! Toys out the pram ASAP"
If they wanted to do it properly, surely a televised match against a rival, with a walkout at the start of the match would garner much much more attention.
It reeks of "they didn't discuss the tickets with us! Toys out the pram ASAP"
If they wanted to do it properly, surely a televised match against a rival, with a walkout at the start of the match would garner much much more attention.
I heard also that with the £77 ticket you get access to one of the new lounges in the main stand. You have to pay for this in the centenary stand. It's about £70 a season extra just to be allowed in the Lounge area (no free drinks, food etc)
We don't pay it cos be arsed with all that, but if true, you are getting extra for your money.
I think it's all a bit OTT myself.
IMHO.
We don't pay it cos be arsed with all that, but if true, you are getting extra for your money.
I think it's all a bit OTT myself.
IMHO.
My favourite album last year was by a band called Sauna Youth. They are playing about 200m away from my house tonight with two support bands for 5 euro. Bargain.
Might even go into Amsterdam and see them tomorrow as well. That's free. Fuck paying 77 quid to watch footy.
Might even go into Amsterdam and see them tomorrow as well. That's free. Fuck paying 77 quid to watch footy.
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