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It is meant as a similar insult though. You're saying it in a way filled with hatred either way.
. Yes, the n word has a LOT of history and no one is trying to detract from the centuries of disgusting treatment and the ongoing hatred now, HOWEVER both words are words of racial hatred
 
I don't know what colour you guys are, but if you are white please look deep in your heart and tell me if the word "honkey" makes you lol or punch. Try to be honest.

I think you are just "technically outraged", and that even though you are not actually angered by the comment, you feel you can claim "racism" and use it as leverage to serve your argument. It is a dishonest practice, but sadly very common in the current culture of outrage bonanza.
 
I don't know what colour you guys are, but if you are white please look deep in your heart and tell me if the word "honkey" makes you lol or punch. Try to be honest.

It makes me lol because I've never heard it seriously used because it's one of the worst fucking insults ever. Fundamentally, it's a word. If time was done again then the n word might be replaced with flabble. An hilarious word, but when injected with racial hatred it could be something awful.

Besides. Honky wasn't used. It was coconut. Something which implies being white is a bad thing.
 
Honky:

Honky may be a variant of hunky, which was a deviation of Bohunk, a slur for Bohemian-Hungarian immigrants in the early 1900s.[2] Honky may have come from coal miners in Oak Hill, West Virginia. The miners were segregated; blacks in one section, whites in another. Foreigners who couldn't speak English, mostly from Europe, were separated from both groups into an area known as "Hunk Hill". These male laborers were known as "Hunkies."[3]
Honky may also derive from the term "xonq nopp" which, in the West African language Wolof means, literally, "red-eared person" or "white person". The term may have originated with Wolof-speaking slaves brought to the US.[4]
Another documented theory, and possible explanation for the origins of the word, is that honky was a nickname black people gave white men (called "johns" or "curb crawlers") who would honk their car horns and wait for prostitutes to come outside in urban areas (such as Harlem and red-light districts) in the early 1910s.[5][6][7][8]
Honky was adopted as a pejorative in 1967 by black militants within Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) seeking a rebuttal for the term nigger. National Chairman of the SNCC, H. Rap Brown, on June 24, 1967, told an audience of blacks in Cambridge, "You should burn that school down and then go take over the honky's school." Brown went on to say: "If America don't come round, we got to burn it down. You better get some guns, brotha. The only thing the honky respects is a gun. You give me a gun and tell me to shoot my enemy, I might shoot Ladybird."[9]
Honky has occasionally (if intentionally ironic) been used even for whites supportive of African-Americans, as seen in the 1968 trial of Black Panther Party member Huey Newton, when fellow Panther Eldridge Cleaver created pins for Newton's white supporters stating "Honkies for Huey."[10]
In Australia, Malaysia, and Singapore and also in Hongkong / Hong Kong itself, the term is used in a casual nature to refer to people originating from Hong Kong. It is also a familiar short form for "honcarenko" (pronounced "honk-a-ren-ko") which is the Slavic word for "Ukrainian".[11]
 
Honky:

Honky may be a variant of hunky, which was a deviation of Bohunk, a slur for Bohemian-Hungarian immigrants in the early 1900s.[2] Honky may have come from coal miners in Oak Hill, West Virginia. The miners were segregated; blacks in one section, whites in another. Foreigners who couldn't speak English, mostly from Europe, were separated from both groups into an area known as "Hunk Hill". These male laborers were known as "Hunkies."[3]
Honky may also derive from the term "xonq nopp" which, in the West African language Wolof means, literally, "red-eared person" or "white person". The term may have originated with Wolof-speaking slaves brought to the US.[4]
Another documented theory, and possible explanation for the origins of the word, is that honky was a nickname black people gave white men (called "johns" or "curb crawlers") who would honk their car horns and wait for prostitutes to come outside in urban areas (such as Harlem and red-light districts) in the early 1910s.[5][6][7][8]
Honky was adopted as a pejorative in 1967 by black militants within Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) seeking a rebuttal for the term nigger. National Chairman of the SNCC, H. Rap Brown, on June 24, 1967, told an audience of blacks in Cambridge, "You should burn that school down and then go take over the honky's school." Brown went on to say: "If America don't come round, we got to burn it down. You better get some guns, brotha. The only thing the honky respects is a gun. You give me a gun and tell me to shoot my enemy, I might shoot Ladybird."[9]
Honky has occasionally (if intentionally ironic) been used even for whites supportive of African-Americans, as seen in the 1968 trial of Black Panther Party member Huey Newton, when fellow Panther Eldridge Cleaver created pins for Newton's white supporters stating "Honkies for Huey."[10]
In Australia, Malaysia, and Singapore and also in Hongkong / Hong Kong itself, the term is used in a casual nature to refer to people originating from Hong Kong. It is also a familiar short form for "honcarenko" (pronounced "honk-a-ren-ko") which is the Slavic word for "Ukrainian".[11]

I did that too man. *knucks*
 
I wiki-ed 'honky' because when Fabio said it was one of the worst insults, I thought he meant it was uber-derogatory, that it meant something filthy and revolting.

Now I realise he meant it is one of the worst insults, as in crappy and ineffectual at causing offence.
 
Again Fabio, I think you are being dishonest.
How am I being dishonest?

Both insults mean white people=bad. That's a racist term.

Am I arsed by either? No because it hasn't been a societal issue where they are viewed as awful. They aren't viewed that way because there is an apparent view that white people can't be racially abused.

They can.

Racism works all ways, not just against an ethnicity that isn't white
 
I wiki-ed 'honky' because when Fabio said it was one of the worst insults, I thought he meant it was uber-derogatory, that it meant something filthy and revolting.

Now I realise he meant it is one of the worst insults, as in crappy and ineffectual at causing offence.

No, it's a horrible insult. Borderline hilarious.
 
How am I being dishonest?

Both insults mean white people=bad. That's a racist term.

Am I arsed by either? No because it hasn't been a societal issue where they are viewed as awful. They aren't viewed that way because there is an apparent view that white people can't be racially abused.

They can.

Racism works all ways, not just against an ethnicity that isn't white

Give it a rest yer honky Scouse bastard
 
How am I being dishonest?

Both insults mean white people=bad. That's a racist term.

Am I arsed by either? No because it hasn't been a societal issue where they are viewed as awful. They aren't viewed that way because there is an apparent view that white people can't be racially abused.

They can.

Racism works all ways, not just against an ethnicity that isn't white
I think you are guilty of sophistry. You are in effect saying that a pinprick and an axe through your skull is the same as they are both sharp pieces of metal that penetrate the skin.
 
And you're arguing over the definition of a word.

Racism is racism.

Let's say something happens in the next 40 years, where white people become second class citizens and are the victims of segregation and abysmal treatment with racial slurs on a daily basis. Honky becomes filled with hate and venom.

Is it racist then?

Course it is because the word is filled with venom

If I walk down the street tomorrow and random black fella comes up to me and spits in my face and says "you fucking honky"

Is it less racist?

Course fucking not. It's still filed with he same hatred and venom

Racial slurs are racially motivated (bizarrely).
 
If you don't believe white people are allowed to be offended by racism against them then thats your own beliefs and I can't change them iseered

Hey Ho. Life goes on.
 
And you're arguing over the definition of a word.
Actually I am not. We agree on the definition. Honky = white person bad, nigger = black person bad. However, you say whichever word you use it is the same crime. I say using one of these words is very bad, and using the other word isn't.
 
Stabbing someone in the leg with a butter knife or stabbing them in the leg with a machete

Which is worse?

Same crime, different weapons. I've already said the n word is worse, HOWEVER they are still the same crime
 
It's apparent I know that the n word is worse as I haven't actually used its full term
 
I'm with iseered here.

Insults against a race that isn't a minority isn't actually going to have any effect. Insults against a minority is likely to be part of something a lot more sinister.

Honkeys be trippin yo.
 
How?

Let's say if I moved to Kenya and I was racially abused and called honky? Should i go "its fine"

Like fuck I should. I'm being abused because I'm white

If I'm called a fat cunt I'm offended because I'm fat

If I'm called a honky cuny I'm offended because I'm white.

If I was ginger and called a ginger cunt I'd be offended too.

Racism is racism, regardless of minority /majority
 
It also isn't some part of an evil white conspiracy if a black/asian/whatever lad is racially abused. It's one persons viewpoint which is grossly ill educated.

If a racial slur is said against someone of that ethnicity, it's fucking racism
 
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