Regarding the handball, Solskjær traced a newcastle player who got free and when he couldnt catch him he forlede him deliberate got his red card and it proved to win them the league.
The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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People cheat every game. "Taking a yellow for the team" when someone is counter attacking. It's cheating, and should be a red.
Handballs are no different in my opinion. Cheating is cheating. Ghana should have won but lost their heads. That's their problem.
Handballs are no different in my opinion. Cheating is cheating. Ghana should have won but lost their heads. That's their problem.
I really hope they use they example of Cuntarito saying it.
The FA won't know their arse from their elbow if they see that a Man Utd player has said it too.
The FA won't know their arse from their elbow if they see that a Man Utd player has said it too.
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=47188.msg1437668#msg1437668 date=1323009313]
I really hope they use they example of Cuntarito saying it.
The FA won't know their arse from their elbow if they see that a Man Utd player has said it too.
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I really hope they use they example of Cuntarito saying it.
The FA won't know their arse from their elbow if they see that a Man Utd player has said it too.
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Chicarito called someone "negrito" on a blog or something, I think it's a few pages back in this thread.
The FA won't know what to do if they see someone from Man Utd saying the same word.
Chicarito called someone "negrito" on a blog or something, I think it's a few pages back in this thread.
The FA won't know what to do if they see someone from Man Utd saying the same word.
Seriously, if anyone has the relevant e-mail address it would be worth forwarding that to the club just in case no-one there has noticed it before.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=47188.msg1437694#msg1437694 date=1323011636]
Seriously, if anyone has the relevant e-mail address it would be worth forwarding that to the club just in case no-one there has noticed it before.
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Yeah I was thinking this. How would we go about this? I haven't got a clue. But someone should definitely do it.
Seriously, if anyone has the relevant e-mail address it would be worth forwarding that to the club just in case no-one there has noticed it before.
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Yeah I was thinking this. How would we go about this? I haven't got a clue. But someone should definitely do it.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1437699#msg1437699 date=1323011803]
Twitter it ...
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This.....if people think its relevant it'll blow up. Actually tweet it @ one of the sky sports guys....they'll sensationalise the shit out of it!
Twitter it ...
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This.....if people think its relevant it'll blow up. Actually tweet it @ one of the sky sports guys....they'll sensationalise the shit out of it!
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=47188.msg1437705#msg1437705 date=1323013186]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1437699#msg1437699 date=1323011803]
Twitter it ...
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This.....if people think its relevant it'll blow up. Actually twitter is @ one of the sky sports guys....they'll sensationalise the shit out of it!
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Yup - someone do this ... Best case scenario - Luis thanks us! 😉
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1437699#msg1437699 date=1323011803]
Twitter it ...
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This.....if people think its relevant it'll blow up. Actually twitter is @ one of the sky sports guys....they'll sensationalise the shit out of it!
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Yup - someone do this ... Best case scenario - Luis thanks us! 😉
I don't have Twitter. Seriously, though, this could be really helpful, somebody should do it.
It is all over every other web site out there and there even has been an article on the Liverpool.TV forum so I really doubt if this hasn't been noticed by the powers that be at our club.
Besides, I think the quotes from Hernandez are quite old, probably when he was still playing in Mexico, and the FA will probably put the context on it that it may be acceptable to use the word in Latin/South America (as Hernandez did) but not in the UK.
Besides, I think the quotes from Hernandez are quite old, probably when he was still playing in Mexico, and the FA will probably put the context on it that it may be acceptable to use the word in Latin/South America (as Hernandez did) but not in the UK.
But it proves that it's a colloquial term which is not meant with any racist connotations.
If the saintly Man Utd players say it then....
I'd still love to know what evidence the FA have to be able to charge him.
If the saintly Man Utd players say it then....
I'd still love to know what evidence the FA have to be able to charge him.
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=47188.msg1437786#msg1437786 date=1323020124]
But it proves that it's a colloquial term which is not meant with any racist connotations.
If the saintly Man Utd players say it then....
I'd still love to know what evidence the FA have to be able to charge him.
[/quote] but fergie said........................
But it proves that it's a colloquial term which is not meant with any racist connotations.
If the saintly Man Utd players say it then....
I'd still love to know what evidence the FA have to be able to charge him.
[/quote] but fergie said........................
They're going to have to be satisfied that Suarez - who hasn't been here a year yet and whose English isn't great - was aware that the word "negrito" (one of which most English people probably weren't even aware before this blew up) would not be regarded as acceptable here before they can justify finding him guilty. I'd really like to see how they could argue that.
.....and, we're off:
Luis Suárez's disciplinary hearing for allegedly racially abusing Patrice Evra has begun in secrecy, the Guardian can reveal.
The case is expected to last two days, with Suárez and Evra both giving evidence to determine the chain of events that has led to the Liverpool striker facing a long ban if he is found guilty.
Evra claims that Suárez used a racist word "at least ten times" during Manchester United's 1-1 draw at Anfield on 15 October. Suárez denies the allegations and has been given Liverpool's full backing as he tries to overturn a case that threatens to have huge ramifications for the club's season.
The hearing centres on a disputed version of what was said between the two players. Suárez has admitted words were exchanged but the Uruguayan's defence is understood to focus on the nuances of the Spanish language and cultural differences, arguing that what he said would not be considered offensive for someone of his background in South America.
The complexities of the case have led the FA to look closely at the semantics issue and explain why the case is expected to take longer than usual.
Luis Suárez's disciplinary hearing for allegedly racially abusing Patrice Evra has begun in secrecy, the Guardian can reveal.
The case is expected to last two days, with Suárez and Evra both giving evidence to determine the chain of events that has led to the Liverpool striker facing a long ban if he is found guilty.
Evra claims that Suárez used a racist word "at least ten times" during Manchester United's 1-1 draw at Anfield on 15 October. Suárez denies the allegations and has been given Liverpool's full backing as he tries to overturn a case that threatens to have huge ramifications for the club's season.
The hearing centres on a disputed version of what was said between the two players. Suárez has admitted words were exchanged but the Uruguayan's defence is understood to focus on the nuances of the Spanish language and cultural differences, arguing that what he said would not be considered offensive for someone of his background in South America.
The complexities of the case have led the FA to look closely at the semantics issue and explain why the case is expected to take longer than usual.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443540#msg1443540 date=1323875523]
So after both of his cases have been heard, how many games do you think he'll be missing?
I'm guessing he'll be cleared of the racist claims, but will get a 2-3 game ban for sticking his fingers up at the Fulham fans.
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if thats how it pans out then we can righty appeal and get kenny to make another DVD of twats being twatty
So after both of his cases have been heard, how many games do you think he'll be missing?
I'm guessing he'll be cleared of the racist claims, but will get a 2-3 game ban for sticking his fingers up at the Fulham fans.
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if thats how it pans out then we can righty appeal and get kenny to make another DVD of twats being twatty
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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I don't want to agree because usually when I want something to happen the opposite does. However I can see it not being very many.
Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues, however a ban because it was still offensive and because of the finger incident.
It's a joke though, zero games missed and a statement from Evra accepting it was a misunderstanding/mistranslation and that he's happy with the outcome is the only fair result.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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I don't want to agree because usually when I want something to happen the opposite does. However I can see it not being very many.
Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues, however a ban because it was still offensive and because of the finger incident.
It's a joke though, zero games missed and a statement from Evra accepting it was a misunderstanding/mistranslation and that he's happy with the outcome is the only fair result.
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443547#msg1443547 date=1323876245]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
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He's having a go at jews now?!
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
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He's having a go at jews now?!
Different jurisdiction I know, but a Hibernian player got a one match ban yesterday for offensive gestures to Rangers fans.
Strange, is it not, that Evra is giving evidence? I thought Luis was charged based on the evidence he already gave. Sounds more like a straight one man's word against the other to me.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443548#msg1443548 date=1323876348]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443547#msg1443547 date=1323876245]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
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He's having a go at jews now?!
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Eh?
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443547#msg1443547 date=1323876245]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
[/quote]
He's having a go at jews now?!
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Eh?
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443555#msg1443555 date=1323876981]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443548#msg1443548 date=1323876348]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443547#msg1443547 date=1323876245]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
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He's having a go at jews now?!
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Eh?
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it was a joke
semantic
Semitic
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443548#msg1443548 date=1323876348]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1443547#msg1443547 date=1323876245]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1443544#msg1443544 date=1323875809]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1443543#msg1443543 date=1323875780]
How many games will he be missing please Fabs...................
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thats my bold claim
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Actually i'm going to go for 2 games, reduced because of the semantic issues,
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He's having a go at jews now?!
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Eh?
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it was a joke
semantic
Semitic
He's anti semantic 🙂
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1443554#msg1443554 date=1323876906]
Strange, is it not, that Evra is giving evidence? I thought Luis was charged based on the evidence he already gave. Sounds more like a straight one man's word against the other to me.
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He'd still have to give evidence at the hearing itself, if only to give Luis' lawyers a chance to cross-examine him.
Hopefully he'll be asked to explain his interview with French TV right after the game, when he apparently said it was no big deal to him. If there's any justice, questions will then be asked about what part that evil old cnut of a manager of his played in his decision to bring a complaint after all.
Strange, is it not, that Evra is giving evidence? I thought Luis was charged based on the evidence he already gave. Sounds more like a straight one man's word against the other to me.
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He'd still have to give evidence at the hearing itself, if only to give Luis' lawyers a chance to cross-examine him.
Hopefully he'll be asked to explain his interview with French TV right after the game, when he apparently said it was no big deal to him. If there's any justice, questions will then be asked about what part that evil old cnut of a manager of his played in his decision to bring a complaint after all.
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