I'm happy you're on my side this time. Couldn't face disagreeing over another motherfucking thing
The sending off
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That's flat wrong. If it were irrelevant the rules wouldn't make the distinction between "intentional" and "reckless".
You said "his boot went clean through his face" to which I said , the keeper escaped with plasters, evidently , no direct contact was made .
It's by the by , the challenge was fair cop , Mane lost out , if the keepers leading head knocked Mane out cold it wouldn't be any more a red card than this was .
There's no rank hypocrisy here, this just wasn't a red card , I have no issues acknowledging one when it is one
Mane had no intention to commit this foul , that is wholly important when determining the severity of the sentence, it was a harsh red, fact
Carragher said it was a red.
He misses Burnley at home, Leicester in the cup and Newcastle away. He's back for the scum game and available for the European cup games.
1. The keeper was knocked out and needed oxygen to get off the pitch. There was good contact
2. Manes foot was in an unnatural position (head height). Just head the ball if it's that high
3. You're not acknowledging the card, so yeah, you won't admit it when it's a fair red
4. Intention should determine the length of punishment, not initial card. It was reckless and dangerous play. Full stop. Fact.
Tell it to the FA. Their own rules say different.
That's a fair comment from the rules, but I don't see how it can apply to everything. It's vagueness is it's own downfall
A reckless, 2 footed leg breaker challenge deserves a red. He's not trying to hurt the player, it's how he tackles (see britos 2 weeks ago).
Carragher is rarely right about anything.
It defo changes the game. Sweeper keepers are becoming more prevalent and this is essentially saying a keeper can throw their heads at any ball and will get the decision. Context has to be taken into account and Mane is trying to control the ball about 40 yards from goal.
I do agree that making stud to face contact is dangerous, but interesting to see how this manifests itself going forwards. Ederson just ran out into a situation where he knew there was a high foot, whereas Mane hadn't seen the keeper.
Edit: i'm not disputing the card - I just think it will be interesting to see how such a situation will be covered in laws of the game as sweeper keepers are doing this more and more. Ederson knew he was throwing his head into a situation where Mane's foot was.
I do agree that making stud to face contact is dangerous, but interesting to see how this manifests itself going forwards. Ederson just ran out into a situation where he knew there was a high foot, whereas Mane hadn't seen the keeper.
Edit: i'm not disputing the card - I just think it will be interesting to see how such a situation will be covered in laws of the game as sweeper keepers are doing this more and more. Ederson knew he was throwing his head into a situation where Mane's foot was.
I'd rather believe the thoughts of a professional footballer than a fat cunt behind a keyboard.
You were a massive Ballotelli fan and hated Gerrard.
So you're opinion on anything football related is taken with a pinch of salt.
Think you should stick to the fried foods and video games.
We probably won't bother, but that has bugger all to do with the decision and everything to do with the fact that the games he'll miss are games we ought to win anyway.
Keepers always going to try and win the ball, and when you're going full pelt it's difficult to pull your head out the challenge without then taking the opposition player out and earning yourself a red.
He was in a no win situation.
Mane acted in a dangerous way, and yeah, it's shit he got sent off when he clearly just wanted the ball
I just don't get the double standard sometimes. It is not the first time we have seen a high leg against a head. But if it connects it's a red if it doesn't no card is even given 90% of the time.
Whether it connects or not is irrelevant. If it is dangerous play it is dangerous play. If Ederson had pulled his head back it will just be a foul for Mane and no card.
The keeper took one for the team. Blood and gore buys you a red card for an opponent.
Whether it connects or not is irrelevant. If it is dangerous play it is dangerous play. If Ederson had pulled his head back it will just be a foul for Mane and no card.
The keeper took one for the team. Blood and gore buys you a red card for an opponent.
Point still stands.
If we're going by the rules of the game it's not a red.
So i guess Carra is wrong as usual and Neville was right.
Course I did champ. And based on the fact you're either 1. A lurker who's a shit house coward for years to know that about me, or 2. A former poster who's too much of a shit house coward to be upfront about it, means you can get to fuck
If it's leo... Shane long is shite
I really don't think he thought the 'cause' of getting Mane sent off was worth potential skull breaking injuries.. but I do think he knew any clash would go in his favour.
You can argue (though I wouldn't) that it ought to be a red, mo chara, but under the rules it's a yellow and a mistake by the referee given that, as you say, there was no malice in it. That simply isn't a matter of opinion. It's there in black and white in the rules the referee is supposed to apply.
Stop being a dickhead. The whole of the sky sports panel said it was a red. Toure, Henry and Carragher.
Manè hit someone in the face. With his boot. And knocked him out. A red all day long.
The obsession with that Leo bloke is weird.
You're definitely right about Long though.
Nothing else much really.
Everything you post is depressing and most of the time you try and be controversial.
You're far too stupid to play that game from what I've seen.
You sound like Ferguson after the Van Persie incident.
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