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The rebuild... how would you plan it?

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Still feels like a pretty major step up for Van Den Berg, regardless of his Preston form. Maybe after another year on loan - actually I'm sure I've read somewhere that he definitely is slated for another loan.

I like Gomez, he was brilliant for us when he first came in to the team. He and Konate could be an excellent partnership long term, too. I just worry the timing isn't quite going to be right, cos he'll be 27 or so by the time Matip goes. Shame.
 
Still feels like a pretty major step up for Van Den Berg, regardless of his Preston form. Maybe after another year on loan - actually I'm sure I've read somewhere that he definitely is slated for another loan.

I like Gomez, he was brilliant for us when he first came in to the team. He and Konate could be an excellent partnership long term, too. I just worry the timing isn't quite going to be right, cos he'll be 27 or so by the time Matip goes. Shame.
If possible we should loan him out to a PL team.
 
I think the forward line is fine for a few years as long as Mane and Salah sign deals. Carvalho signing helps too. And a shout out to Kaide Gordon too, who might only be a kid but is one of the best youth players I've ever seen. He has a great chance of making it.

GK is obviously fine.

Defence is fine, especially if we hang on to Gomez, who I think can still be a big player for us, but the timing is a bit of an issue there. We could probably do with a backup right back, but maybe Williams can be that player. Maybe.

Henderson could probably do with replacing either this summer or next. Ox will go. Milner will go. Otoh I like Jones and Elliott and they should continue to improve.

It'd be good to have one new top class midfielder to start games and maybe a proper backup to Fabinho. Bellingham looks the most feasible option to me, given his age and the inevitability of him looking for a new club sometime soon.

If I was being ruthless I'd probably sell Bobby and buy that Nunez chap, just as extra insurance. But I can't really see that happening tbh.

It's really kind of remarkable just how little needs to be done given how little we've spent.
Gordon looked really good when he joined last year, u18s may have won the youth Cup if he hadn't been Cup tied. Hasn't had the same impact this season though.
 
Gordon looked really good when he joined last year, u18s may have won the youth Cup if he hadn't been Cup tied. Hasn't had the same impact this season though.

Last few times I've seen the kids teams he's not been playing, I presume he's been injured. He's looked great every time I've seen him though.
 
I think it simply boils down to whether Gomez and/or Ox want to move to increase their playing time or are happy play a squad role in a team, with the knowledge they’re part of one of the best teams in the world and challenging for honours on all fronts.

If they move - they’ll likely not be seeing trophies.

More likely they’ll have to find a team willing to pay them the same or more than they’re on or wait till their contract runs out.

I think we’re happy to let their contracts run out and leave on a free.

Of course, if someone bids stupid money, I’d sell… but realistically, who is?
 
I’m back again in the camp of thinking we need to sign someone like Tchouameni this summer. Fabinho is one of the top DMs in the world when he is rested and on form, but we’ve seen an out-of-sorts Fabinho several times this season and suffered because of it since 2 of his worst games came against City. He needs top-level back-up/competition, someone who does exactly what Fabinho does, but younger.
 
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I’m back again in the camp of thinking we need to sign someone like Tchouameni this summer. Fabinho is one of the top DMs in the world when he is rested and on form, but we’ve seen out-of-sorts Fabinho several times this season and suffered because of it since 2 of his worst games came against City. He needs top-level back-up/competition, someone who does exactly what Fabinho is good at but younger.
Bissouma is available for around £30-35m. Gavi's buy-out clause is £42m but he isn't a DM. There's also James Ward-Prowse coming to 28, not young but is English and will provide the versatility of Hendo and Millie who has probably seen his last season.
 
Been reading good things about Cheick Doucoure but I guess his next move will probably be to a side like Leicester.
 
How would I plan it..?
First off I would not be doing this

James Milner, 36, has been offered another one-year contract at Liverpool
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...mes-milner-contract-extension-mohamed-salahs/
He (Milner) is getting any younger. Already you see as fit as he is that his pace in declining and the time between matches that he needs to recover is growing.
He seems to be a cover for Henderson in the last twenty minutes these days. Surely we can use Jones and Morton for that, If not Keita
Milner is on £140,000 a week moving him on would free up that money
 
How would I plan it..?
First off I would not be doing this

James Milner, 36, has been offered another one-year contract at Liverpool
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...mes-milner-contract-extension-mohamed-salahs/
He (Milner) is getting any younger. Already you see as fit as he is that his pace in declining and the time between matches that he needs to recover is growing.
He seems to be a cover for Henderson in the last twenty minutes these days. Surely we can use Jones and Morton for that, If not Keita
Milner is on £140,000 a week moving him on would free up that money
I had the same reaction, however, Klopp want's him, and how do you go against his judgement? Milner is said to be key to the mentality of the squad
 
Pace isn’t essential for the midfield role - stamina is.

Milner is home grown - so that means he can only really be replaced with another homegrown player.

Jones and Morton don’t need to be registered next season and Morton could probably do with a year on loan.

Milner won’t be playing in the World Cup - we can probably squeeze another season out of him.

We’re not even sure whether Milner wants to play another year or doesn’t want to have a season elsewhere to finish his career.

His importance to the squad is not just about minutes on the pitch.
 
How would I plan it..?
First off I would not be doing this

James Milner, 36, has been offered another one-year contract at Liverpool
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...mes-milner-contract-extension-mohamed-salahs/
He (Milner) is getting any younger. Already you see as fit as he is that his pace in declining and the time between matches that he needs to recover is growing.
He seems to be a cover for Henderson in the last twenty minutes these days. Surely we can use Jones and Morton for that, If not Keita
Milner is on £140,000 a week moving him on would free up that money
So fans moan about player loyalty and yet the same fans don't want to show any when they think that the old work horse isn't good enough to keep around anymore. Milner has bee. A fantastic servant to this club, was probably motm against Newcastle, if he wants to stsy for another year then ya given him the contract. He's twice the player of Jones or morton
 
So fans moan about player loyalty and yet the same fans don't want to show any when they think that the old work horse isn't good enough to keep around anymore. Milner has bee. A fantastic servant to this club, was probably motm against Newcastle, if he wants to stsy for another year then ya given him the contract. He's twice the player of Jones or morton

Loyalty is one thing, keeping a player who is no longer up to reaching the standard and highest that we want to reach is another thing...
Take Daniel Sturrigde as a example. We kept him far to long when he could no longer perform at a top level and ended up being at the club 2-3 seasons longer than he should have been.
The Ox, whom we should never have bought in the first place, we are doing the same with him. If we want to be chasing titles, CL and cups we need to be moving players on who can not perform at the level we which to perform at on a regular basis, and no matter how "fantastic" Milner was, he is not so "fantastic" as he once was.
You know if Milner gets game time that there is a very high possibility that he picks up a yellow card for a miss timed tackle.


Maybe Jones, Morton or both could grow into that role if given more game time
 
You can't fuck about with the squad. Take him on as a coach if he offers so much to the team, but I don't want to see him on the pitch next season
 
I wouldn't be adverse to keeping Milner for another season, he knows Newcastle was probably the last time he started a premier league game (bar an injury crisis), but he'd offer so much experience in a League Cup game or early rounds FA Cup game, whilst quietly filling the home grown quota.

If Ox goes, even more important on the home grown front.
 
I can still see him coming on for the last 10-15 minutes of important league or European games when we're ahead but under pressure and need to dog it out to the end.
 
Loyalty is one thing, keeping a player who is no longer up to reaching the standard and highest that we want to reach is another thing...
Take Daniel Sturrigde as a example. We kept him far to long when he could no longer perform at a top level and ended up being at the club 2-3 seasons longer than he should have been.
The Ox, whom we should never have bought in the first place, we are doing the same with him. If we want to be chasing titles, CL and cups we need to be moving players on who can not perform at the level we which to perform at on a regular basis, and no matter how "fantastic" Milner was, he is not so "fantastic" as he once was.
You know if Milner gets game time that there is a very high possibility that he picks up a yellow card for a miss timed tackle.


Maybe Jones
Loyalty is one thing, keeping a player who is no longer up to reaching the standard and highest that we want to reach is another thing...
Take Daniel Sturrigde as a example. We kept him far to long when he could no longer perform at a top level and ended up being at the club 2-3 seasons longer than he should have been.
The Ox, whom we should never have bought in the first place, we are doing the same with him. If we want to be chasing titles, CL and cups we need to be moving players on who can not perform at the level we which to perform at on a regular basis, and no matter how "fantastic" Milner was, he is not so "fantastic" as he once was.
You know if Milner gets game time that there is a very high possibility that he picks up a yellow card for a miss timed tackle.


Maybe Jones, Morton or both could grow into that role if given more game time
Milner was probably motm against Newcastle. Was never let us down. Ffs sure fabinho picks up a yellow every other game as well. It's. Only a 1 year extension ffs. We definitely need his old cool head off the bench if need. Jones is no where near miner's level atm
 
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