Come on lid, at least give us an unverified twitter post about it.
The Mo Contract Saga
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I’ll believe it when I hear it from a reputable source. Like the Firm.
Have to say, I had the exact same thought. We’ll see soon enough if it’s true.
I think it’s more likely his head is at AFCON - while it means nothing to us, it’s massive for him and his country.
It’s entirely possible he will not want to miss it and is holding back just a little.
I don’t think any of the other nations have as much riding on one player.
Senegal look really strong.
I swear I've seen hundreds of posts on SCM about us "winning the AFCON" – surely that must mean something!
I mean, we're not giving up these players NOT to win AFCON. Let's get it done!
Slightly broader point than just Salah's contract, but I wonder to what extent the players feel the same as some of us about the direction of the team and a lack of investment from FSG that would keep us closer to Man City (with the caveat we'd never be able to invest in the way they do). I know there were some rumours that Salah had wanted assurances about our transfer plans but I wonder whether he will be in any way hesistant about signing a new deal if he doesn't get a sense that we will be reinforcing with players who will help us compete immediately; especially given he's at a stage of his career where he can still pretty much pick what team he goes to.
I've had similar thoughts yeah. It must be frustrating.
We went out and bought Suarez & Caroll for the fee received for Torres and then went and spent another £50m in the summer window (albeit mostly on shite - Hendo, Downing, Enrique, Adam & Coates)
That was over £100m on 7 players a decade ago.
Fucking waste of money... but they did provide investment - it was a net spend of about £30m
It was the money from the sale of Ryan Babel tyhat secured Suarez not the money from Torres,beside that I agree with you
It was truly awful... although at least the Downing transfer spawned one of the best threads ever on SCM.
It wasn't that bad. Suarez alone was probably one of our best signings in the modern era. Henderson has undoubtedly more than repaid the £16M we spent on him. Bellamy was a great free transfer, and Doni was a back up keeper on a free.
Whilst neither were outstanding, Enrique and Downing were both had some decent moments
Obviously Adam, Carroll and Coates were disasters.
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{td}Luis Suarez{/td}
{td}Ajax{/td}
{td}£22,800,000{/td}
{td}31 January 2011{/td}
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{td}Andy Carroll{/td}
{td}Newcastle{/td}
{td}£35,000,000{/td}
{td}31 January 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Jordan Henderson{/td}
{td}Sunderland{/td}
{td}£16,000,000{/td}
{td}9 June 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Charlie Adam{/td}
{td}Blackpool{/td}
{td}£7,500,000{/td}
{td}7 July 2011{/td}
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{td}Alexander Doni{/td}
{td}Roma{/td}
{td}Free{/td}
{td}15 July 2011{/td}
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{td}Stewart Downing{/td}
{td}Aston Villa{/td}
{td}£20,000,000{/td}
{td}15 July 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Jose Enrique{/td}
{td}Newcastle{/td}
{td}£6,000,000{/td}
{td}12 August 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Sebastian Coates{/td}
{td}Nacional{/td}
{td}£8,000,000{/td}
{td}30 August 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Craig Bellamy{/td}
{td}Man City{/td}
{td}Free{/td}
{td}31 August 2011{/td}
{/tr}
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Now this was some of the worst spending in our history. Lazar and Mario being the worst of the worst.
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{td}Rickie Lambert{/td}
{td}Southampton{/td}
{td}£4,500,000{/td}
{td}2 June 2014{/td}
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{td}Adam Lallana{/td}
{td}Southampton{/td}
{td}£25,000,000{/td}
{td}1 July 2014{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}Emre Can{/td}
{td}Bayer Leverkusen{/td}
{td}£9,750,000{/td}
{td}3 July 2014{/td}
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{td}Lazar Markovic{/td}
{td}Benfica{/td}
{td}£19,800,000{/td}
{td}15 July 2014{/td}
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{td}Dejan Lovren{/td}
{td}Southampton{/td}
{td}£20,000,000{/td}
{td}27 July 2014{/td}
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{td}Divock Origi{/td}
{td}Lille{/td}
{td}£10,000,000{/td}
{td}29 July 2014{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Javier Manquillo{/td}
{td}Atletico Madrid{/td}
{td}Loan{/td}
{td}6 August 2014{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Alberto Moreno{/td}
{td}Sevilla{/td}
{td}£12,000,000{/td}
{td}16 August 2014{/td}
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{td}Mario Balotelli{/td}
{td}AC Milan{/td}
{td}£16,000,000{/td}
{td}25 August 2014{/td}
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And this transfer window, whilst probably not being as expensive even when adjusted for inflation, was absolute tripe or worse.
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{td}Bruno Cheyrou{/td}
{td}Lille{/td}
{td}£3,700,000{/td}
{td}16 May 2002{/td}
{/tr}
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{td}El Hadji Diouf{/td}
{td}Lens{/td}
{td}£10,000,000{/td}
{td}1 June 2002{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Alou Diarra{/td}
{td}Bayern Munich{/td}
{td}Free{/td}
{td}9 July 2002{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Patrice Luzi{/td}
{td}Monaco{/td}
{td}Free{/td}
{td}29 July 2002{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Salif Diao{/td}
{td}Sedan{/td}
{td}£4,700,000{/td}
{td}6 August 2002{/td}
{/tr}
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That’s actually making some of our more recent transfer windows when we’ve bought no-one, seem successful.
I do think retaining our key players and only selling when we want to, by offering top salary packages, combined with buying only the players we want rather than spoofing it all over some of the shite we have in past, is a good thing.
I do think retaining our key players and only selling when we want to, by offering top salary packages, combined with buying only the players we want rather than spoofing it all over some of the shite we have in past, is a good thing.
32m I think
Liverpool made several bids for Saurez
One of £12.5m or £12.8m depending on where you look
another bid of £18.3m which was also turned down
And it was not until Liverpool sold Babel that they paid the £22.8m Ajax was demanding on 28 January 2011 and was signed on 31 January 2011
Torres was still a Liverpool player on the 28th January 2011, he signed for Chelsea on 31 January 2011 the same day that Saurez became a Liverpool player
Yes.
So they sold Babel & Torres for a combined £55m and bought Suarez & Carroll for a combined £58m.
Then in the next window they spent another £55m+ and brought in about £30m in revenue.
I don’t know what you’re arguing here.
Not arguing, just pointing out
The Torres sale did not fund the Saurez deal.
Had Torres stayed we would and could have still bought Suarez
Your logic is based on an assumption that Dalglish & the board were taken completely by surprise by Torres' move to Chelsea.
The suggestion was that Torres was going to cost whatever the fee for Carroll was plus £15m (so Newcastle were the only real winners there because they basically named their price and we got Chelsea to pay).
The other rumour I heard, probably not news to most of you, was that we held the deal for Torres up until very late in the day so Chelsea wouldn't have time to do a thorough medical on him (he did undergo a medical but it can't have been much cop given how crocked he was).
The other rumour I heard, probably not news to most of you, was that we held the deal for Torres up until very late in the day so Chelsea wouldn't have time to do a thorough medical on him (he did undergo a medical but it can't have been much cop given how crocked he was).
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