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I know you do ya said you do so what do i
Thank FUCK for that !
And yeah - you were wrong, as even dictionaries demonstrated, but since your ego would NEVER permit you to admit it then it comes as no surprise you didn't have the balls to do it this time, instead reverting to your standard modus operandus - name calling.
Because I was taking the piss.
I was down the youtube compilations rabbit hole when I stumbled into Lucas Paqueta's compilation. Looked impressive. Any of the posters who know more about European players have an opinion on him, suitability for LFC midfield? @dmishra , @rurikbird , @King Binny
I mentioned him and was shot down
The way Barcelona are negotiating he'll be paying to play soon.
That may not be far from the truth, I mean I was watching this talk show and a barca guy was on taking about expected sacrifices from players etc.. fuck me he sounded deluded, I dont care what football club but players are employees, and they need to honour their contracts. I remember the old Ronaldo saying they treat players like shit, and there should be a realisation now how shitty they are.
De Jong is one ugly mothergrabber.
And we only have sexy bastards on less than $200k per week at Liverpool.
And we only have sexy bastards on less than $200k per week at Liverpool.
I can’t believe we’re not all over Rabiot!!!
HE’S A MIDFIELDER!!!!
Man Utd already have Fred, McTominay, De Beek and they signed that youngster Eriksen!!!
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING - HOW CAN THEY SIGN ALL THE SHIT MIDFIELDERS WHILE WE SIGN NONE!!!!
HE’S A MIDFIELDER!!!!
Man Utd already have Fred, McTominay, De Beek and they signed that youngster Eriksen!!!
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING - HOW CAN THEY SIGN ALL THE SHIT MIDFIELDERS WHILE WE SIGN NONE!!!!
His stats look impressive but I haven't watch him regularly. (On a side note, Bruno Guimaraes, whom Newcastle signed from Lyon look like a really good signing.)
This is a write up on his performance/role in this season's 1st league game for Lyon.
https://themastermindsite.com/2022/08/06/game-of-numbers-1-lucas-paqueta-the-bernardo-silva-role/
[article]Lyon kicked off the 2022-23 Ligue 1 season fashionably, with a narrow 2-1 win over promoted side AC Ajaccio. Highlights of the match included Alexandre Lacazette and Corentin Tolisso returning to the club that kickstarted their careers, and 19-year-old Johann Lepenant making his Ligue 1 debut after impressing last season for Ligue 2 side SC Caen. But the man who stole the show from a tactical perspective was Lucas Paquetá, the Brazilian midfielder who attracted attention from Arsenal among many other top European sides this summer.
For his silky smooth ability on the ball, Paquetá would be best classified as a ‘Midfield Maestro’; who can also feature as a ‘Creative Ten’ in either a central or wide role. Against Ajaccio, Paquetá operated in a deeper role alongside Lepenant, in what can only be described these days as the ‘Bernardo Silva Role’. This is where a smooth operator drops deep in build-up phases to receive and drive the team forward, even when the team already have an exceptional ‘Deep-Lying Playmaker’ to break through the thirds. This gives the team the advantage of freeing up spaces in central channels and half-spaces to play through the thirds, especially when the opposition diligently track the traditional ‘number 6’ that often is that ‘DLP’ (e.g. Rodri or Lepenant).
As you can see from the image above, Johann Lepenant finds himself sandwiched in between Ajaccio’s front two high-block. Paquetá says ‘no problem!’ and responds by roaming in front of the press to receive from the centre-backs.
In this part of the field, the Brazilian can then use his cruise control to break lines on the dribble, or his imagination to clip balls over the top for runners to chase. In turn, this then creates a secondary consequence of having that second midfielder in a deeper role in case possession changes hands. While we would all consider Kevin de Bruyne or Houssem Aouar to be more defensively-minded and defensively-sound, with greater mobility and an innate ability to get back and defend in transition, it ends up being Silva or Paquetá that then do the dirty work in defensive phases alongside that defensive midfielder. That spare midfielder can then thrive in attacking phases, holding a more advanced role in case possession changes once more.
Simultaneously, having that ‘DLP’ traditional ‘number 6’ means the ‘8’ operating in the ‘Bernardo Silva Role’ is not restricted to a deeper position. They can still roam and float about as they please. They still have the freedom to generate chances in the final third, or even have a pop at goal. Bernardo Silva himself scored 8 goals in the Premier League last season, even when deployed alongside a more natural box-to-box goal-scoring presence like KDB or Ilkay Gundogan. So while the role is evidently deeper than we’ve become accustomed to for players with that level of imagination in the final third, it is not a strictly deep role that restricts their ability in attack. If anything, it only allows their quality to shine in new horizons.
For now, we’re continuing to quantify the Bernardo Silva’s and Lucas Paquetá’s of the world under the umbrella of our ‘Midfield Maestro’ prototype, which can dovetail as either an ‘Attacking Midfielder’ or a more reserved ‘number 8’. However, it will be intriguing to see the evolution of the Bernardo Silva role, from both the Portuguese playmaker himself at Manchester City, and Lucas Paquetá at Lyon.[/article]
His stats look impressive but I haven't watch him regularly. (On a side note, Bruno Guimaraes, whom Newcastle signed from Lyon look like a really good signing.)
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This is a write up on his performance/role in this season's 1st league game for Lyon.
https://themastermindsite.com/2022/08/06/game-of-numbers-1-lucas-paqueta-the-bernardo-silva-role/
[article]Lyon kicked off the 2022-23 Ligue 1 season fashionably, with a narrow 2-1 win over promoted side AC Ajaccio. Highlights of the match included Alexandre Lacazette and Corentin Tolisso returning to the club that kickstarted their careers, and 19-year-old Johann Lepenant making his Ligue 1 debut after impressing last season for Ligue 2 side SC Caen. But the man who stole the show from a tactical perspective was Lucas Paquetá, the Brazilian midfielder who attracted attention from Arsenal among many other top European sides this summer.
For his silky smooth ability on the ball, Paquetá would be best classified as a ‘Midfield Maestro’; who can also feature as a ‘Creative Ten’ in either a central or wide role. Against Ajaccio, Paquetá operated in a deeper role alongside Lepenant, in what can only be described these days as the ‘Bernardo Silva Role’. This is where a smooth operator drops deep in build-up phases to receive and drive the team forward, even when the team already have an exceptional ‘Deep-Lying Playmaker’ to break through the thirds. This gives the team the advantage of freeing up spaces in central channels and half-spaces to play through the thirds, especially when the opposition diligently track the traditional ‘number 6’ that often is that ‘DLP’ (e.g. Rodri or Lepenant).
As you can see from the image above, Johann Lepenant finds himself sandwiched in between Ajaccio’s front two high-block. Paquetá says ‘no problem!’ and responds by roaming in front of the press to receive from the centre-backs.
In this part of the field, the Brazilian can then use his cruise control to break lines on the dribble, or his imagination to clip balls over the top for runners to chase. In turn, this then creates a secondary consequence of having that second midfielder in a deeper role in case possession changes hands. While we would all consider Kevin de Bruyne or Houssem Aouar to be more defensively-minded and defensively-sound, with greater mobility and an innate ability to get back and defend in transition, it ends up being Silva or Paquetá that then do the dirty work in defensive phases alongside that defensive midfielder. That spare midfielder can then thrive in attacking phases, holding a more advanced role in case possession changes once more.
Simultaneously, having that ‘DLP’ traditional ‘number 6’ means the ‘8’ operating in the ‘Bernardo Silva Role’ is not restricted to a deeper position. They can still roam and float about as they please. They still have the freedom to generate chances in the final third, or even have a pop at goal. Bernardo Silva himself scored 8 goals in the Premier League last season, even when deployed alongside a more natural box-to-box goal-scoring presence like KDB or Ilkay Gundogan. So while the role is evidently deeper than we’ve become accustomed to for players with that level of imagination in the final third, it is not a strictly deep role that restricts their ability in attack. If anything, it only allows their quality to shine in new horizons.
For now, we’re continuing to quantify the Bernardo Silva’s and Lucas Paquetá’s of the world under the umbrella of our ‘Midfield Maestro’ prototype, which can dovetail as either an ‘Attacking Midfielder’ or a more reserved ‘number 8’. However, it will be intriguing to see the evolution of the Bernardo Silva role, from both the Portuguese playmaker himself at Manchester City, and Lucas Paquetá at Lyon.[/article]
Cheers Binny. Yup, Guimaraes looks a great signing.
It's Monaco where a glass of orange juice is probably €10 (never been, guessing). They don't let any one go cheap. Paqueta's price tag is above £50m now according to the papers - not sure the club would sanction that.
Well… we could buy some oranges and squeeze our own juice.
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EOTK Insider Opinion: 90% of Liverpool fans want Jurgen Klopp to sign a new midfielder this summer but they're wrong ❌
In a poll held on our Twitter account, 8,729 Liverpool fans voted on 'Should we sign another midfielder before the summer transfer window closes?' and 89.2% of the people said - Yes.
It may seem a little unwise to challenge 90% of the fanbase of your own club but… here we go.
At the time of writing, Thiago Alcantara has been ruled out for six weeks following a hamstring injury he picked up against Fulham, in the Premier League opener for the Reds.
The Spaniard joins Naby Keita (ruled out with illness since the final pre-season friendly against Strasbourg), Curtis Jones (also missing since Strasbourg with ‘stress reactions’) and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (out with a ‘serious hamstring injury’ picked up against Crystal Palace in pre-season) - as our missing midfield men.
Liverpool still have the likes of Jordan Henderson, Fabinho, James Milner, Harvey Elliott and Fabio Carvalho available for selection but this is worrying some of our supporters.
Some, apparently being nearly 90%.
The current availability of five midfielders, should soon see the addition of our No.8 and the other Scouser in our team - leaving seven men the chance to fill the three positions.
It will only be mid-September that our No.6 then returns too and the only real long-term issue is then Oxlade-Chamberlain, the man with just nine Premier League starts last season.
Despite this though, there seems to be a widespread opinion that we don’t have enough players in the squad to cope with the upcoming 103 days until the start of the World Cup.
Jurgen Klopp will then be fully aware that, other than a couple of games between the end of the Qatar tournament and the opening of the winter transfer window, he then has the opportunity to add to his squad if needed.
Seeing as Thiago (not a regular starter for Spain), Keita (Guinea not in the World Cup), Jones (yet to make a senior England appearance), Oxlade-Chamberlain (not been in the England squad since 2019), Henderson (seemingly behind Declan Rice and Kalvin Phillips for England), Fabinho (battling with Casemiro for a spot in the Brazil line-up) James Milner (retired from international duty), Elliott (no senior England caps) and Carvalho (no senior Portugal caps) are all on the fringes of their national teams or not involved at all - the boss will have weighed up his options.
Even taking into account the possible travel to Qatar for some of his options, the German will still have many fresh players ready for the restart of our league season.
Our next match is against Crystal Palace and having another midfielder would be a help but we then have 36 more league games, on top of Champions League, FA Cup and League Cup matches too.
Signing another midfielder is a short-term fix that will cause long-term problems for the squad.
The players there now will feel there is a lack of faith in their ability and once everyone is fit once again - how does the manager keep them all happy?
Even for the visit of Patrick Vieira’s men to Anfield, there’s still five options available to the boss, yet this is apparently a crisis.
Fans are worried that Henderson, Milner and Thiago are getting older, that Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain and possibly Keita aren’t good enough, Carvalho and Elliott are too young and only Fabinho seems to be universally liked by our ‘fanbase’.
Nine players into three positions is good squad depth and so why is everyone so worried?
It could be the paranoia of what happened in our title defending campaign when a centre-back crisis wiped out our squad but even then Klopp found a way to use the academy and other players out of position, to help.
We have Bobby Firmino and Trent Alexander-Arnold who could both help a midfield trio in a crisis, as well as Melkamu Frauendorf, the hugely impressive Stefan Bajcetic and (say it very quietly) yes, even Jay Spearing (as our 14th choice midfield option) - in a time of real need.
This squad won both domestic cups last season, reached the final of the Champions League and were one point away from a Premier League title - in a campaign where we played every single possible game.
The only senior midfield option we have lost is Takumi Minamino, who was rarely even used in a midfield trio.
Every player is a year older than they were last season but there still doesn’t need to be this level of worry and stress over a great squad of players and plenty of options for the boss.
We are likely to get a new player next summer but the decision to keep Oxlade-Chamberlain and extend the deal of Milner was our new midfielder this summer. Yes, our No.15 is injured and yes, the vice captain is now 36 but they have been selected as the best options for the squad.
How many times does Jurgen Klopp have to prove that he is a genius for everyone to stop questioning his decisions at every turn?
To the 89.2% of 8,729 people who voted, we don’t need another midfielder.
Stop stressing and enjoy watching the Reds for what is sure to be another memorable and entertaining season.
Whilst I agree with most of the above, saying a new midfielder would make our current midfielders "feel there is a lack of faith in their ability" is clearly inaccurate and an irrelevance. Firstly the club isn't there is make players feel 'comfortable' in fact competition is specifically designed to make them uncomfortable and to strive to reach higher levels.
Secondly the likes of Elliott, Carvalho, Frauendorf & Stefan Bajcetic are still youngsters yet to fully prove themselves. Milner & Fabs surely couldn't be arsed, Thiago, Hendo and Keita have enough confidence in their own ability not to feel 'threatened' but even they know injuries will curtail some of the squad for parts of the season and it's better to still be in the PL & CL title chases because of squad depth than out of it with little to play for.
TAA & Firmino are clearly not midfielders at this stage. Ox is also clearly irrelevant and may even have left this window if he hadn't broken down yet again. Maybe Jones is the only one that would feel he'd be dropping down the order - but that is up to him to raise his game or flounder.
It's possible we could go without a new midfielder this window and get by just fine (time will tell), it's also possible we could buy one. As always with Klopp and the scouting team ... it depends on them being the 'right one at the right time'.
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I would love to have seen this in pre-season and was a bit surprised we didn't.
Tag them - just for shits and giggles
That article is a load of horse shit, Yes Klopp is a genius, but in reality by not signing players when he by now should know most of his midfield is made of glass. No - he don't need to prove shit to anyone and especially LFC fans, but he is not being fair to himself going into seasons and coming up short for the big titles because he does not have enough quality at his disposal. That is the reality, :
1) UCL Final 1 - never replaced Coutinho so we turned up with a load of midfield cripples. - we won nothing that season
2) Pandemic Season - don't need to talk about that, but not enough - won nothing
3) Last Season - got to all the finals yes, but lots of luck in terms of who we played along the way (our CL run was easier than the others), our two cup finals had to be won on penalties, we had midfielders on and off during that entire season and by the end of it they were fucked as per normal, and of course we lost the CL final and the PL due to too many draws because ... guess what ? - the midfield control was not there when under pressure, it never was during that season ... like ever against teams that had a go at us.
Even if this bunch of midfielders are skill full enough - none of them are actually reliable, their availability last season in key periods was actually out of the norm for them, and I am talking about the likes of Henderson, Keita, and Thiago. Curtis Jones is turning out to be a cripple at the moment and I had so much hope for him, so another one that is completely unreliable these days.
Also - next season we will lose Ox, Milner (minimum) - so are we saying if we get Jude that that will make up for losing two ? - how far are they willing to go with that ? - say if Keita leaves as well - does that mean we still only get 21 year old Jude who has experience winning nothing to replace three current mids ?.
The absolute state of that post.
1. We lost due to Salah going off injured and Karius being shit.
2. We won the champions league - which you missed out
3. We won the fucking league in the pandemic season - which you forgot
4. Major injury crisis derailed our season. Way worse than we have now.
5.We would’ve won the league in god knows how many fucking seasons with our points total. We also played every game possible which has never happened in a top rated league.
We don’t need a stop gap. Trust the process.
2. We won the champions league - which you missed out
3. We won the fucking league in the pandemic season - which you forgot
4. Major injury crisis derailed our season. Way worse than we have now.
5.We would’ve won the league in god knows how many fucking seasons with our points total. We also played every game possible which has never happened in a top rated league.
We don’t need a stop gap. Trust the process.
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