The incredible Xabi Alonso thread 2009.

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg915175#msg915175 date=1248967070]
Ultimately, I wish the situation had been different. I wish he'd wanted to stay, but he's been caught up by the lure of Madrid. I don't think he's a victim of Rafa's evil plan, but I wish Xabi was leaving on good terms with the manager, club, players and fans.
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I dont think it possible for any player who is not 'finished' to leave Liverpool and leave on good terms with the fans. I rate Xabi very highly, and am gutted he is going.
But he is choosing to leave and for me, no club is bigger. Therefore he is now a cunt. Thanks, but fuck off. No one leaves our club unless they are over the hill or shite. And if you choose to, then you will be vilified like Owen and McMoneyman.

 

[Ong]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Fuck off Xabi.

Should done this at the start of summer.

I wont wish him well, please fuck off ASAP.

 

[madmax]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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Anyway someone I know who works in the media reckons he spoke to someone at the club this morning and it looks like £15million plus Snieder and Van Der Vaart.

Just passing on what I've heard.

That makes me feel a lot better.
[/quote]Is it the same someone who reckons Rafa has forced xabi out to have some spends?
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Nope. This is someone else.

[/quote]Good. I'd like this to be true. Id be amazed if it was though.
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If Benitez for whatever reason decides to play Gerrard back in CM, that would be my ideal bets to replace Gerrard in the role behind Torres.

They can cover each other as the attacking midfielder behind Torres, and "wonder what" can be an option on the wing too.

 

[Skullflower]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

you have become a parody of yourself, anita.

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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you have become a parody of yourself, anita.
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And not even an entertaining one.

 

[Paddy]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[size=20pt]LEAVE ANITA ALONE!![/size]

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Thanks Paddy.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Madrid apparently value Xabi at about £24m. I can't see them valuing Sneijder AND Van der Vaart at a combined £9m, somehow.

I would also be very surprised if Rafa wanted to sign both of them, as although both are good players, neither is exactly what we need. Table legs, lamps etc.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Not getting at you Neets. But he wont be thought of fondly because he chose to leave when he still had things to offer. X

 

[Mamma Mia]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Most. Pointless. Thread. Ever.

I suppose we can use it again in January though.

Hey Stu, wher'yat?

 

[jan]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg915135#msg915135 date=1248965375]
Anyway someone I know who works in the media reckons he spoke to someone at the club this morning and it looks like £15million plus Snieder and Van Der Vaart.

Just passing on what I've heard.

That makes me feel a lot better.
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That would most likely be Madrid fucking us over again, everyone knows that they have massive difficulties getting rid of their Dutch failures.

Thank fuck Heinze is signing for Marseille.

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=33578.msg915198#msg915198 date=1248968767]
Not getting at you Neets. But he wont be thought of fondly because he chose to leave when he still had things to offer. X
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You say that Ness, but look at how many people wanted Owen back. And Garcia is generally viewed quite positively by most.

 

[LarryHagman]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

I'm glad Xabi has asked for a transfer. That does the club a favour. The modern way seems to be asking for a transfer without actually asking for one which does no-one any favours.

Also, despite the club we are, I have never expected any of our French (under Ged) or Spanish (Benitez) players to spend their whole careers here. For the Spanish lads, the lure of Real & Barca is a massive temptation. They're not better teams, it's just ingrained in where the players come from. Alonso has given us good years and been instrumental in delivering trophies so, fair play. As long as we get decent recompense. It looks like we'll have had 5 good years and still made nearly 20mil so, not bad.

Good luck to the man.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=33578.msg915198#msg915198 date=1248968767]
Not getting at you Neets. But he wont be thought of fondly because he chose to leave when he still had things to offer. X
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You say that Ness, but look at how many people wanted Owen back. And Garcia is generally viewed quite positively by most.
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Owen has been considered a cunt since he left. Probably the only ex player I can think off that gets a rough reception, spit the dog apart.
And Garcia was a no brainer as he was a part of the Torres deal. AKA we chose to sell him.

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=33578.msg915198#msg915198 date=1248968767]
Not getting at you Neets. But he wont be thought of fondly because he chose to leave when he still had things to offer. X
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You say that Ness, but look at how many people wanted Owen back. And Garcia is generally viewed quite positively by most.
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Owen has been considered a cunt since he left. Probably the only ex player I can think off that gets a rough reception, spit the dog apart.
And Garcia was a no brainer as he was a part of the Torres deal. AKA we chose to sell him.
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Plenty on here still held Owen in high regards and wanted him back until he signed for them.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Maybe so, the world is a big place after all. But he tends to get a massive booing from the Kop, christ only knows how bad this years reaction will be.

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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Maybe so, the world is a big place after all. But he tends to get a massive booing from the Kop, christ only knows how bad this years reaction will be.
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I'd throw stuff* at him.







* like paper and air.

 

[Friend no. 2]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg915170#msg915170 date=1248966856]
Do you people just not read posts? You look at who's name is beside it and decide on your response? Is that how it works?

It's no secret, I'm an Alonso fan and am obviously hugely gutted that he's leaving. I'm disappointed and hurt that he's put in a transfer request, it hurts when any player makes it clear he doesn't want to play for LFC, I mean, how could anyone not want to play for the greatest club on earth? It hurts that much more when it's your favourite player.

I'm disappointed that a man that was an integral part of one of our greatest nights in recent history can't spare some sentiment for this club and it's fans, who have gone to huge efforts to let him know they want him to stay.

I'm saddened that despite having our best shot at the league in 20years that someone like Alonso can't see that this team is on the brink of something huge, and that he can't give us another year on that basis. I wish he could.

But I won't demonise him for it. Why should I? As I feel we can't completely rid ourselves of the blame, if Rafa hadn't touted him all over Europe the way he did last summer, I'm not convinced we'd be facing losing him now. I can't blame him for wanting out, even if there was a complete U-turn from Rafa. That aside, I can't blame anyone for wanting to return back to their home country, I was sad when Garcia went for the same reason. How can you blame a man for wanting to take his family back to their homeland?

I worry about how we'll function as a 4231 without someone with is passing range in the 2. Mascherano is great at breaking the play up, but not so good with his vision and distribution they way Xabi is.

I said at the end of last season that I was convinced we would win the league this season, if we kept the spine of our team. Losing anyone of the players that make that up would hurt us. I think this will hurt us.

But he is only one player. He isn't and never was the whole team.

Ultimately, I wish the situation had been different. I wish he'd wanted to stay, but he's been caught up by the lure of Madrid. I don't think he's a victim of Rafa's evil plan, but I wish Xabi was leaving on good terms with the manager, club, players and fans. I'm not sure he is leaving on the best terms with the manager. But perhaps thats down to both of them, who knows.

Despite what others think, I think Alonso has proven to be a model professional, he could have moaned last summer, he could have courted the media throughout this summer, he didn't. He tried to stay quiet as long as he could and tried to allow business to happen behind closed doors, as it should. I respect that. It was made clear by Rafa that he needed to hand in a transfer request in order for the move to happen, and so he's done that. Let's hope it's all resolved quickly from this point onwards.

But I, for one, wish him all the best. I hope he's outstanding for Spain. I will always remember for fondly for Istanbul and those special half-way line goals. I'm glad that Spanish lad Xabi Alonso once played for Liverpool.

YNWA
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well put. I hope he does well for Spain and along with Arby is the only Madrid player who has a good season..

 

[gkmacca]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Benitez considered selling Alonso last summer because he needed the funds. He chose Alonso because he was thought to be the most saleable asset who'd underperformed - if he'd had a bigger budget I doubt Alonso would have figured in transfer matters at all, and if Alonso had played better the previous season to last he wouldn't have figured anyway. As for Rafa's view of Alonso: people can't have it both ways - if he's judged to be ruthless with the likes of keane, he would've been ruthless with Alonso. But he played him whenever he could. If Alonso had been so angered by his manager thinking of the bigger picture, he should have asked to go last summer, not wait a year, mess everyone around and hide behind this silly excuse. Very shabby, Xabi.

 

[Oncy]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Id fart into my hand and hold it under hir nose.

 

[Whaddapie]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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Honestly Whaddapie, I can't be bothered with this. You're not gonna change my mind and I don't really care about changing yours.


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Right back at ya... There are none so blind as those who will not see. If Xabi told you up was down, you'd not hear a word against it.
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Yes, yes of course I would.

And as of next week I'm supporting Madrid. Sod Liverpool without Alonso. Pfft.

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Well in.

Pretend you think I suggested that the player was more important to you than the club, when everybody here (including you) knows that I said nothing of the sort.

 

[Oncy]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33578.msg915218#msg915218 date=1248969607]
Benitez considered selling Alonso last summer because he needed the funds. He chose Alonso because he was thought to be the most saleable asset who'd underperformed - if he'd had a bigger budget I doubt Alonso would have figured in transfer matters at all, and if Alonso had played better the previous season to last he wouldn't have figured anyway. As for Rafa's view of Alonso: people can't have it both ways - if he's judged to be ruthless with the likes of keane, he would've been ruthless with Alonso. But he played him whenever he could. If Alonso had been so angered by his manager thinking of the bigger picture, he should have asked to go last summer, not wait a year, mess everyone around and hide behind this silly excuse. Very shabby, Xabi.
[/quote]I agree with all that Mac, but to be fair Xabi hasnt made any excuses. The press are claiming he has an axe to grind. He hasnt said owt.

 

[LarryHagman]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

If Alonso plays for Madrid at Anfield and gets booed, I will be v embarrased. That would be bang out of order.

Surely we're better than that?

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

I would nipple twist him. And his ma.

 

[Oncy]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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Honestly Whaddapie, I can't be bothered with this. You're not gonna change my mind and I don't really care about changing yours.


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Right back at ya... There are none so blind as those who will not see. If Xabi told you up was down, you'd not hear a word against it.
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Yes, yes of course I would.

And as of next week I'm supporting Madrid. Sod Liverpool without Alonso. Pfft.

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Well in.

Pretend you think I suggested that the player was more important to you than the club, when everybody here (including you) knows that I said nothing of the sort.
[/quote]Ok lets move on.

 

[LadyRed]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=33578.msg915223#msg915223 date=1248969788]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg915140#msg915140 date=1248965530]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=33578.msg915134#msg915134 date=1248965344]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg915132#msg915132 date=1248965135]
Honestly Whaddapie, I can't be bothered with this. You're not gonna change my mind and I don't really care about changing yours.


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Right back at ya... There are none so blind as those who will not see. If Xabi told you up was down, you'd not hear a word against it.
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Yes, yes of course I would.

And as of next week I'm supporting Madrid. Sod Liverpool without Alonso. Pfft.

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Well in.

Pretend you think I suggested that the player was more important to you than the club, when everybody here (including you) knows that I said nothing of the sort.
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This is silly and pointless. And I don't really care if you think that.

Like I said some posts ago, I can't be bothered with this conversation because I don't think either of us are gonna change the others mind.

 

[Whaddapie]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

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Anyone who's coming up with 'Well, if it was me, I'd get over it' is talking BS, and they know it.

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And, see, quite apart from the football and Xabi argument that we're having, that really, REALLY irks me. You don't know the first fcuking thing about me or most people on here, but because you want it to be so, you make this wild and broad generalisation.

Now who's talking BS?
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And yet it's okay for you to make comments like 'you'e believe anything Alonso told you', like you know me well enough to know how easily I'd be led by someone else.

Do me a favour.
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Fair.

However, your stance on every single Xabi topic there has ever been on this site and your insistance that Rafa's the bad guy in this and Xabi's done everything perfectly at all times would suggest that my statement about you is far more close to mark about you and yours was of me and my kind.

Note: I don't really think you'd believe everything Xabi said, Anita.

 

[livvy145]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=33578.msg915198#msg915198 date=1248968767]
Not getting at you Neets. But he wont be thought of fondly because he chose to leave when he still had things to offer. X
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Ala, Keegan, Souness, Rush.......

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Keegan yes. But then we replaced him with the King to soften the blow. As for Souness and Rush, I am not so sure the club didnt think those players were fast approaching the end, and we got good value for them.

 

[Peatcheo]

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

He has given us 5 years and won us trophys during that time including the greatest club trophy and the FA cup, thanks for the time Xabi and good luck!