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The incredible Xabi Alonso thread 2009.

Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Not as funny as Babel. Babel looks like some mad scientist copied Barnes's body and then stuck a replica of Dalglish's arse on it. He runs like Groucho Marx with piles.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg881244#msg881244 date=1244025091]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881235#msg881235 date=1244024525]
He's done two bits of fuck all since he joined them, as exemplified by a succession of managers leaving him on the bench.

Still, you wouldn't know that as Wikipedia probably didn't have it spelled out for you.

So since he left Arsenal, they've won nothing, and the clubs he's subsequently joined have won the title in every season he's been there.

Maybe we should buy him as a mascot.

I won't even go into Stam, who left United too early, which Ferguson subsequently admitted:

At the time he had just come back from an achilles injury and we thought he had just lost a little bit. We got the offer from Lazio, £16.5m for a centre-back who was 29. It was an offer I couldn't refuse. But in playing terms it was a mistake.

Really, you shouldn't get the arse every time I make you look a bit of a cunt. Surely you're used to it by now?

[/quote]

Can you form an opinion without the aid of wikipedia?

It's not something to be ashamed of Bren. You initiated a thread comparing Silva to Garcia with the fact that they're small and Spanish being your evidence. Whenever a succession of people (who've actually watched football outside of England) explained to you - in detail - that you hadn't a fucking clue, you were nowhere to be seen. No riposte, no counter argument, no analysis.

Have you any clue about what Vieira's brought to Inter apart from what a search engine tells you?

Aside from hysterical proclamations and woefully inept comparisons and analogies, you haven't to much to offer from a football perspective. That's fine, some people add stuff in other areas. The second someone wants to kow whether that big fucking gorilla did actually make people buy more dairy milk, we'll leave the stage free fror you so you can jump in with the expert opinion, alright?
[/quote]

I'm sure there's a racist analogy in there towards the end.

I know I can't compete with your Guardian chalkboard-generated level of top football insights, and I wouldn't wish to compete with you as 6CM's Premiere footballing genius.

Who else but you and Rafa can see the talent hidden away in Lucas?

Or Hayden Mullins?
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881249#msg881249 date=1244025276]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33578.msg881244#msg881244 date=1244025091]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881235#msg881235 date=1244024525]
He's done two bits of fuck all since he joined them, as exemplified by a succession of managers leaving him on the bench.

Still, you wouldn't know that as Wikipedia probably didn't have it spelled out for you.

So since he left Arsenal, they've won nothing, and the clubs he's subsequently joined have won the title in every season he's been there.

Maybe we should buy him as a mascot.

I won't even go into Stam, who left United too early, which Ferguson subsequently admitted:

At the time he had just come back from an achilles injury and we thought he had just lost a little bit. We got the offer from Lazio, £16.5m for a centre-back who was 29. It was an offer I couldn't refuse. But in playing terms it was a mistake.

Really, you shouldn't get the arse every time I make you look a bit of a cunt. Surely you're used to it by now?

[/quote]

Can you form an opinion without the aid of wikipedia?

It's not something to be ashamed of Bren. You initiated a thread comparing Silva to Garcia with the fact that they're small and Spanish being your evidence. Whenever a succession of people (who've actually watched football outside of England) explained to you - in detail - that you hadn't a fucking clue, you were nowhere to be seen. No riposte, no counter argument, no analysis.

Have you any clue about what Vieira's brought to Inter apart from what a search engine tells you?

Aside from hysterical proclamations and woefully inept comparisons and analogies, you haven't to much to offer from a football perspective. That's fine, some people add stuff in other areas. The second someone wants to kow whether that big fucking gorilla did actually make people buy more dairy milk, we'll leave the stage free fror you so you can jump in with the expert opinion, alright?
[/quote]

I'm sure there's a racist analogy in there towards the end.

I know I can't compete with your Guardian chalkboard-generated level of top football insights, and I wouldn't wish to compete with you as 6CM's Premiere footballing genius.

Who else but you and Rafa can see the talent hidden away in Lucas?

Or Hayden Mullins?
[/quote]

I know I've won when you have to pull out the last resort (Mullins).

Later.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881208#msg881208 date=1244023209]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881196#msg881196 date=1244022679]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881191#msg881191 date=1244022380]
Me too Doc, me too.
[/quote]

Would you be in favour or selling Xabi for £30m (€35m)?
[/quote]

I would understand selling him for that sort of fee from a business perspective, but as a fan, I don't. Because as far as I'm concerned Alonso is key to how we play, the way he dictates and steadies our play, the way he distributes the ball and brings others in to the game. I don't believe he's easily replaceable, as there area very few players in the world that are of that mould. And few better suited to us than Alonso.

As a fan, you want your club to have money to buy the players you need. But what good is the money if you can't get the player you need?

In this case the player we need is Alonso. What good is the money if it can't buy an adequate replacement for him?

Which I don't believe it will find someone of his quality. Either way, it's still a risk, or at the cost of time, to allow a player to settle.

I've said more than once, if we're to be in with a chance of the league next season, we cannot mess with the spine of the team. That's the bit we've got right, and the bit we need to keep. I believe that includes Torres, Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Skrtle/Agger, Carrager and Reina. Losing any of them would be a huge mistake.

What good is £30million if it's the difference between is winning the league and not?
[/quote]

Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881273#msg881273 date=1244026421]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881208#msg881208 date=1244023209]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881196#msg881196 date=1244022679]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881191#msg881191 date=1244022380]
Me too Doc, me too.
[/quote]

Would you be in favour or selling Xabi for £30m (€35m)?
[/quote]

I would understand selling him for that sort of fee from a business perspective, but as a fan, I don't. Because as far as I'm concerned Alonso is key to how we play, the way he dictates and steadies our play, the way he distributes the ball and brings others in to the game. I don't believe he's easily replaceable, as there area very few players in the world that are of that mould. And few better suited to us than Alonso.

As a fan, you want your club to have money to buy the players you need. But what good is the money if you can't get the player you need?

In this case the player we need is Alonso. What good is the money if it can't buy an adequate replacement for him?

Which I don't believe it will find someone of his quality. Either way, it's still a risk, or at the cost of time, to allow a player to settle.

I've said more than once, if we're to be in with a chance of the league next season, we cannot mess with the spine of the team. That's the bit we've got right, and the bit we need to keep. I believe that includes Torres, Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Skrtle/Agger, Carrager and Reina. Losing any of them would be a huge mistake.

What good is £30million if it's the difference between is winning the league and not?
[/quote]

Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.
[/quote]

We'd have to replace Xabi too Pesam.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.

And who would we be playing in our midfield if Alonso was sold?

*sits down and straps in*
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881273#msg881273 date=1244026421]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881208#msg881208 date=1244023209]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881196#msg881196 date=1244022679]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881191#msg881191 date=1244022380]
Me too Doc, me too.
[/quote]

Would you be in favour or selling Xabi for £30m (€35m)?
[/quote]

I would understand selling him for that sort of fee from a business perspective, but as a fan, I don't. Because as far as I'm concerned Alonso is key to how we play, the way he dictates and steadies our play, the way he distributes the ball and brings others in to the game. I don't believe he's easily replaceable, as there area very few players in the world that are of that mould. And few better suited to us than Alonso.

As a fan, you want your club to have money to buy the players you need. But what good is the money if you can't get the player you need?

In this case the player we need is Alonso. What good is the money if it can't buy an adequate replacement for him?

Which I don't believe it will find someone of his quality. Either way, it's still a risk, or at the cost of time, to allow a player to settle.

I've said more than once, if we're to be in with a chance of the league next season, we cannot mess with the spine of the team. That's the bit we've got right, and the bit we need to keep. I believe that includes Torres, Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Skrtle/Agger, Carrager and Reina. Losing any of them would be a huge mistake.

What good is £30million if it's the difference between is winning the league and not?
[/quote]

Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.
[/quote]

I think we've had the conversation before about how we clearly rate Alonso differently. Like I say I think it's essential that we have someone who can retain possesion and distribute the way Alonso does for our system to work.

What good is Silva gonna be without us playing the kind of football we have this season when we keep possession and create lots of openings in games?
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

why the brazillian superstar who won some mickey mouse award, you know the one who's had a good game if he remains anonymous and doesn't cost us a goal.

if rafa sells alonso lucas clearly can't step up to the mark.

we need to buy a replacement that can walk into our first team. who exactly is out there that can do that. all the names i see being mentioned are potential replacements for lucas as someone who may come through rather than someone who can hit the ground running.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881278#msg881278 date=1244027004]
Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.

And who would we be playing in our midfield if Alonso was sold?

*sits down and straps in*
[/quote]

In buying Silva and G. Johnson I was using the Alonso money i.e. Alonso @ £30m = Silva @ £18m and Johnson @ £12m. Obviously we would need either a CM to replace Alonso or to move Gerrard back to CM and buy someone like; Blazscowksi, Zarate etc to play off Nando.

My point being, if I had the choice of us having £30m worth of assets in the form of Alonso OR in the form of Silva and Johnson I would take the latter option.

Kuyt--------------Gerrard-------------Mascherano------------Silva
-------------------------Blaszcowski-----------------------------------
------------------------------Torres----------------------------------
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881328#msg881328 date=1244030639]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881278#msg881278 date=1244027004]
Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.

And who would we be playing in our midfield if Alonso was sold?

*sits down and straps in*
[/quote]

In buying Silva and G. Johnson I was using the Alonso money i.e. Alonso @ £30m = Silva @ £18m and Johnson @ £12m. Obviously we would need either a CM to replace Alonso or to move Gerrard back to CM and buy someone like; Blazscowksi, Zarate etc to play off Nando.

My point being, if I had the choice of us having £30m worth of assets in the form of Alonso OR in the form of Silva and Johnson I would take the latter option.

Kuyt--------------Gerrard-------------Mascherano------------Silva
-------------------------Blaszcowski-----------------------------------
------------------------------Torres----------------------------------
[/quote]

Break up Gerrad+Torres combo for that? No way man. No way.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881328#msg881328 date=1244030639]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881278#msg881278 date=1244027004]
Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.

And who would we be playing in our midfield if Alonso was sold?

*sits down and straps in*
[/quote]

In buying Silva and G. Johnson I was using the Alonso money i.e. Alonso @ £30m = Silva @ £18m and Johnson @ £12m. Obviously we would need either a CM to replace Alonso or to move Gerrard back to CM and buy someone like; Blazscowksi, Zarate etc to play off Nando.

My point being, if I had the choice of us having £30m worth of assets in the form of Alonso OR in the form of Silva and Johnson I would take the latter option.

Kuyt--------------Gerrard-------------Mascherano------------Silva
-------------------------Blaszcowski-----------------------------------
------------------------------Torres----------------------------------
[/quote]

How exactly is this better than what we have right now?
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Why dont we right...now open ya minds really wide...why dont we...kill the fuckin...just clone Gerrard?

Breaking up the Toz and Ged parsnip would be a jarg move. Selling Xabi would be a jarg move. Buying Barry would have been a jarg move. We need to sell some shite (lucas, babel and dossbellenda). Silva would be a nice...nice name, nice face...pretty little bitch like. But he'd do a Father Ted tho, he'd shit out, and fuck off after 5 minutes. Wouldn't work. We need a big nasty brick shithouse thats gonna start wading people out the way and taking the heat of Torres so he can let his lovely lob on even score a few.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=jan link=topic=33578.msg881336#msg881336 date=1244031469]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881328#msg881328 date=1244030639]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33578.msg881278#msg881278 date=1244027004]
Fair enough. Unlike you I don't believe Alonso to be pivotal to our chances of success next season and for a fee of £30m, providing it was spent wisely*, I think we would be better off selling.

*Wisely = Silva and G. Johnson for example.

And who would we be playing in our midfield if Alonso was sold?

*sits down and straps in*
[/quote]

In buying Silva and G. Johnson I was using the Alonso money i.e. Alonso @ £30m = Silva @ £18m and Johnson @ £12m. Obviously we would need either a CM to replace Alonso or to move Gerrard back to CM and buy someone like; Blazscowksi, Zarate etc to play off Nando.

My point being, if I had the choice of us having £30m worth of assets in the form of Alonso OR in the form of Silva and Johnson I would take the latter option.

Kuyt--------------Gerrard-------------Mascherano------------Silva
-------------------------Blaszcowski-----------------------------------
------------------------------Torres----------------------------------
[/quote]

How exactly is this better than what we have right now?
[/quote]


Silva is significantly better than our current options on the left.

Have you seen Blaszcowski play? He is a superb playmaker who can play off the main striker or wide right and his inclusion would offer us a new attacking dimension.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.


[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.
[/quote]

It still doesn't work at all.

Gerrard, Silva and Kuyt are all naturally attacking players and would all push up - expecting Masher to hold the team for everyone is ambitious at best

Also Blaszcowski would be occupying the area of the pitch where Gerrard does his best work. And then there's no guarantee in him striking a chord with Torres

Anita's right; the reason we've improved this season is because of our spine; the improved understanding of our formation and each others play, as well as some vastly improved individual performances from important players.

As Benitez said, it's not an overhaul we need, it's fine tuning. Which in my mind means improving upon Riera and Babel, keeping Alonso, adding a new RB and some striking options/back-up.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
[/quote]

Just coming up to 2 O'Clock mate.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33578.msg881357#msg881357 date=1244033200]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.


[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.
[/quote]

It still doesn't work at all.

Gerrard, Silva and Kuyt are all naturally attacking players and would all push up - expecting Masher to hold the team for everyone is ambitious at best

Also Blaszcowski would be occupying the area of the pitch where Gerrard does his best work. And then there's no guarantee's he'd strike a chord with Torres

Anita's right; the reason we've improved this season is because of our spine; the improved understanding of our formation and each others play, as well as some vastly improved individual performances from important players.

As Benitez said, it's not an overhaul we need, it's fine tuning. Which in my mind means improving upon Riera and Babel, keeping Alonso, adding a new RB and some striking options/back-up.
[/quote]

Squig, I won't exactly be devastated if we start the season with Alonso I was just guaging opinion regarding an offer of £30m and, due to our financial limitations, whether or not we would be better off accepting said offer and strengthening other areas.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881358#msg881358 date=1244033214]
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
[/quote]

Just coming up to 2 O'Clock mate.
[/quote]

??
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881358#msg881358 date=1244033214]
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
[/quote]

Just coming up to 2 O'Clock mate.
[/quote]

Ha. He's making more sense than you, Pesam.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33578.msg881361#msg881361 date=1244033485]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881358#msg881358 date=1244033214]
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
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Just coming up to 2 O'Clock mate.
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Ha. He's making more sense than you, Pesam.

[/quote]

Et tu Bunnyman?

I think I'll stick to changing letters in players names.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881353#msg881353 date=1244032857]
Silva is significantly better than our current options on the left.


[/quote]

I'd agree with that. However, we don't know how he's gonna settle in the premiership. So you're talking about sacrificing a pr oven quality and key player, tampering with the heart of the team to accommodate a position which we're currently average in.

That maths doesn't add up for anyone.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]


Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
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Haha, top post. Agree with it all.

Gerrard and Torres together forever. And Mascherano and Alonso together forever.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
[/quote]

Hang on a sec - Gerrard was ace on the right wing, scoring loads of goals, he's been ace playing off Torres, scoring loads of goals - So what's saying he's not going to do the same if he's back in his favourite central role?

I'm happy with Gerrard in the middle, off Torres, out on the right - as long as he's playing, he's usually excellent.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

Only a moron would be happy seeing Gerrard playing wide.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881369#msg881369 date=1244034335]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881353#msg881353 date=1244032857]
Silva is significantly better than our current options on the left.


[/quote]

I'd agree with that. However, we don't know how he's gonna settle in the premiership. So you're talking about sacrificing a pr oven quality and key player, tampering with the heart of the team to accommodate a position which we're currently average in.

That maths doesn't add up for anyone.
[/quote]

Anita I'm beginning to think that you'd miss these annual Alonso threads if they weren't here. I think you may have a form of Stockholm Syndrome - you seem devoted to these threads even though you despise them. I on the other hand still have a chance to "escape" and am leaving this thread until the Alonso saga is concluded.

I will leave a trail of breadcrumbs for you to follow but expect to see you immersed in this thread for all eternity (or at least mid-August).
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881390#msg881390 date=1244035344]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881369#msg881369 date=1244034335]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881353#msg881353 date=1244032857]
Silva is significantly better than our current options on the left.


[/quote]

I'd agree with that. However, we don't know how he's gonna settle in the premiership. So you're talking about sacrificing a pr oven quality and key player, tampering with the heart of the team to accommodate a position which we're currently average in.

That maths doesn't add up for anyone.
[/quote]

Anita I'm beginning to think that you'd miss these annual Alonso threads if they weren't here. I think you may have a form of Stockholm Syndrome - you seem devoted to these threads even though you despise them. I on the other hand still have a chance to "escape" and am leaving this thread until the Alonso saga is concluded.

I will leave a trail of breadcrumbs for you to follow but expect to see you immersed in this thread for all eternity (or at least mid-August).
[/quote]

Nooo, don't leave! I'll miss you!
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Mors link=topic=33578.msg881384#msg881384 date=1244035101]
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=33578.msg881354#msg881354 date=1244032919]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881350#msg881350 date=1244032584]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881330#msg881330 date=1244031072]
That doesn't work out Pesam, cos from the £30million gained, you have to minus to cost of Alonso's replacement first.




[/quote]

I'll admit it's not a precise science but I chose Johnson and Silva because I think we really need a wide left player and a right back AND the amounts being touted for these 2 conveniently matched my original supposition that we sold Alonso for £30m.

I would guess that Blazscowski (who I really rate) would cost about £15m and, even though it is blasphemous to suggest such a thing, I reckon a Blaszcowski/Torres partnership with Gerrard playing in CM would work very well.[/quote]

Wouldn't. No point in putting shackles on Gerrard and moving him back to CM. If things get shitty he's got the pace an the nouse to come back and defend but thats getting rare, keep him there, he's banging in goals and making plays and being a general fucking demon. He's only gonna to that if he's got a fucking bulldog in dm/cm and a calm as fuck legend spanish beasty passer. Fuck moving Gerrard back an fuck Blaszcowski off cos he's a tit.
[/quote]

Hang on a sec - Gerrard was ace on the right wing, scoring loads of goals, he's been ace playing off Torres, scoring loads of goals - So what's saying he's not going to do the same if he's back in his favourite central role?

I'm happy with Gerrard in the middle, off Torres, out on the right - as long as he's playing, he's usually excellent.
[/quote]

I think SG has basically said that CM is no longer his favoured position, and that he regrets belly-aching about not playing in that position.
 
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez

[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881391#msg881391 date=1244035396]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881390#msg881390 date=1244035344]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg881369#msg881369 date=1244034335]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=33578.msg881353#msg881353 date=1244032857]
Silva is significantly better than our current options on the left.


[/quote]

I'd agree with that. However, we don't know how he's gonna settle in the premiership. So you're talking about sacrificing a pr oven quality and key player, tampering with the heart of the team to accommodate a position which we're currently average in.

That maths doesn't add up for anyone.
[/quote]

Anita I'm beginning to think that you'd miss these annual Alonso threads if they weren't here. I think you may have a form of Stockholm Syndrome - you seem devoted to these threads even though you despise them. I on the other hand still have a chance to "escape" and am leaving this thread until the Alonso saga is concluded.

I will leave a trail of breadcrumbs for you to follow but expect to see you immersed in this thread for all eternity (or at least mid-August).
[/quote]

Nooo, don't leave! I'll miss you!
[/quote]

{but alas there was no one there to hear her plaintive plea}
 
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