Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Think its nearly time to change the name of this thread
Think its nearly time to change the name of this thread
The incredible Xabi Alonso thread 2009.
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani lad (oncy better be fucking right) and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani lad (oncy better be fucking right) and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
why the fuck are we accepting less that 30m? seriously, WHY?!!
why the fuck are we accepting less that 30m? seriously, WHY?!!
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
For once, Rafa4 mate, I'm going to have to differ. For me it's barely acceptable considering his importance both to us and apparently to Madrid. Given that he's now handed a written transfer request in, though, I can (reluctantly) live with it.
For once, Rafa4 mate, I'm going to have to differ. For me it's barely acceptable considering his importance both to us and apparently to Madrid. Given that he's now handed a written transfer request in, though, I can (reluctantly) live with it.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg917079#msg917079 date=1249301685]
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani (oncy better be fucking right) lad and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
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how is 27m a great price? you are talking about one of 'THE' main cogs in the entire liverpool team.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg917079#msg917079 date=1249301685]
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani (oncy better be fucking right) lad and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
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how is 27m a great price? you are talking about one of 'THE' main cogs in the entire liverpool team.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly. I think we've squeezed as much as we're gonna get out of them. If we let this pass we'll be letting him go for a fraction of this come the next transfer window.
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly. I think we've squeezed as much as we're gonna get out of them. If we let this pass we'll be letting him go for a fraction of this come the next transfer window.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg917079#msg917079 date=1249301685]
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani (oncy better be fucking right) lad and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
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how is 27m a great price? you are talking about one of 'THE' main cogs in the entire liverpool team.
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Yeah I agree really, given our original valuation was said to be in the region of £35m.
He's one of the best midfielders in the world in his role and it's a rather unique one at that.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33578.msg917084#msg917084 date=1249301808]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33578.msg917079#msg917079 date=1249301685]
£27mil is a great price for Xabi. How many CM's have ever gone for more than that?
If we can get in this Aquilani (oncy better be fucking right) lad and Silva, then our summer transfers will have improved our squad.
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how is 27m a great price? you are talking about one of 'THE' main cogs in the entire liverpool team.
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Yeah I agree really, given our original valuation was said to be in the region of £35m.
He's one of the best midfielders in the world in his role and it's a rather unique one at that.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917085#msg917085 date=1249301918]
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly. I think we've squeezed as much as we're gonna get out of them. If we let this pass we'll be letting him go for a fraction of this come the next transfer window.
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we said 30 million so they should pay 30 million, who gives a fuck if the deal falls through (apart from real and xabi)? that's the price, pay it or fuck off.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917085#msg917085 date=1249301918]
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly. I think we've squeezed as much as we're gonna get out of them. If we let this pass we'll be letting him go for a fraction of this come the next transfer window.
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we said 30 million so they should pay 30 million, who gives a fuck if the deal falls through (apart from real and xabi)? that's the price, pay it or fuck off.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917085#msg917085 date=1249301918]
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly.
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This comment should really be directed towards Real Madrid.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917085#msg917085 date=1249301918]
To let the deal fall through over £3million when the player clearly wants to go would be silly.
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This comment should really be directed towards Real Madrid.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917090#msg917090 date=1249302211]
if we've accepted 27 million pounds we've caved in.
not a penny less than 30 million pounds seeing as though we valued him at 35 million.
so madrid have got arbeloa and alonso for a combined 30 million - disgusted!
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fucking pathetic. sack parry!!
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917090#msg917090 date=1249302211]
if we've accepted 27 million pounds we've caved in.
not a penny less than 30 million pounds seeing as though we valued him at 35 million.
so madrid have got arbeloa and alonso for a combined 30 million - disgusted!
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fucking pathetic. sack parry!!
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33578.msg917083#msg917083 date=1249301775]
For once, Rafa4 mate, I'm going to have to differ. For me it's barely acceptable considering his importance both to us and apparently to Madrid. Given that he's now handed a written transfer request in, though, I can (reluctantly) live with it.
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I guess it all depends on how our new signings go this season mate. If through selling Xabi (and its clear he wants out anyway) we can afford to sign the likes of Aquilani and maybe, just maybe Silva, then its not a bad deal no? If we end up signing Lee fucking Cattermole and some other useless tosser with the money, then obviously it will be a total disaster.
A few more goals from CM would be very useful this season, and again how many CM's have ever gone for around £27mil before?
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33578.msg917083#msg917083 date=1249301775]
For once, Rafa4 mate, I'm going to have to differ. For me it's barely acceptable considering his importance both to us and apparently to Madrid. Given that he's now handed a written transfer request in, though, I can (reluctantly) live with it.
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I guess it all depends on how our new signings go this season mate. If through selling Xabi (and its clear he wants out anyway) we can afford to sign the likes of Aquilani and maybe, just maybe Silva, then its not a bad deal no? If we end up signing Lee fucking Cattermole and some other useless tosser with the money, then obviously it will be a total disaster.
A few more goals from CM would be very useful this season, and again how many CM's have ever gone for around £27mil before?
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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if we were to win 2 titles and a european cup i wouldn't care if the lad walked for free at the end of his contract.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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if we were to win 2 titles and a european cup i wouldn't care if the lad walked for free at the end of his contract.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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My hope is 18 mill on Aquilani and 10 on Cole. (Or someone in that mold)
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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My hope is 18 mill on Aquilani and 10 on Cole. (Or someone in that mold)
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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But the original asking price was £35m. If the reports are true were accepting £8m less than our valuation. That's practically a quarter of the original asking price knocked off.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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But the original asking price was £35m. If the reports are true were accepting £8m less than our valuation. That's practically a quarter of the original asking price knocked off.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33578.msg917103#msg917103 date=1249302628]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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My hope is 18 mill on Aquilani and 10 on Cole. (Or someone in that mold)
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Id like an attacking player but a versatile defender would come in handy!
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33578.msg917103#msg917103 date=1249302628]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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My hope is 18 mill on Aquilani and 10 on Cole. (Or someone in that mold)
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Id like an attacking player but a versatile defender would come in handy!
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33578.msg917092#msg917092 date=1249302255]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917090#msg917090 date=1249302211]
if we've accepted 27 million pounds we've caved in.
not a penny less than 30 million pounds seeing as though we valued him at 35 million.
so madrid have got arbeloa and alonso for a combined 30 million - disgusted!
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fucking pathetic. sack parry!!
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The fee for Alonso translates into over £27 and three quarter mill, i.e.nearer £28 mill, by my reckoning. Add the fee for Arbeloa and the total is over £32 and a quarter mill - not ideal but not a disaster either.
Parry would have caved in when Real lowered their bid, if not before.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33578.msg917092#msg917092 date=1249302255]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917090#msg917090 date=1249302211]
if we've accepted 27 million pounds we've caved in.
not a penny less than 30 million pounds seeing as though we valued him at 35 million.
so madrid have got arbeloa and alonso for a combined 30 million - disgusted!
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fucking pathetic. sack parry!!
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The fee for Alonso translates into over £27 and three quarter mill, i.e.nearer £28 mill, by my reckoning. Add the fee for Arbeloa and the total is over £32 and a quarter mill - not ideal but not a disaster either.
Parry would have caved in when Real lowered their bid, if not before.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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Turner?? I really hope not.
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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Turner?? I really hope not.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917122#msg917122 date=1249303600]
how much did we end up getting for arbeloa jj? i thought it was about 3 million pounds
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£3.5 mill, mate. Now I accept that both he and Xabi are worth more than we got, but not by so much that the deals were bad ones, particularly as it seems clear that both players wanted out (something Real will have known and used in the negotiations). Had they not, we'd have been in a stronger position. All in all, I honestly don't think we've done too badly financially out of this. I'd sooner have kept both players, but it just wasn't to be.
[quote author=rage link=topic=33578.msg917122#msg917122 date=1249303600]
how much did we end up getting for arbeloa jj? i thought it was about 3 million pounds
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£3.5 mill, mate. Now I accept that both he and Xabi are worth more than we got, but not by so much that the deals were bad ones, particularly as it seems clear that both players wanted out (something Real will have known and used in the negotiations). Had they not, we'd have been in a stronger position. All in all, I honestly don't think we've done too badly financially out of this. I'd sooner have kept both players, but it just wasn't to be.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
yea agree with that. 32 million pounds - hope we spend it wisely. i still reckon a central midfielder and a riera improvement/alternative.
who knows maybe we'll still get rid of doseena and voronin and end up with 40 million.
yea agree with that. 32 million pounds - hope we spend it wisely. i still reckon a central midfielder and a riera improvement/alternative.
who knows maybe we'll still get rid of doseena and voronin and end up with 40 million.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=33578.msg917105#msg917105 date=1249302656]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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But the original asking price was £35m. If the reports are true were accepting £8m less than our valuation. That's practically a quarter of the original asking price knocked off.
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the transfer request brings it down, without it we would have got around 30 mil anyway, which is what we're probably willing to accept now
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=33578.msg917105#msg917105 date=1249302656]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33578.msg917094#msg917094 date=1249302313]
To state slightly higher than what you're willing to accept is a perfectly normal way of negociating.
Like I said, we don't sell him now, we won't get anywhere near as much for him in the coming windows.
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But the original asking price was £35m. If the reports are true were accepting £8m less than our valuation. That's practically a quarter of the original asking price knocked off.
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the transfer request brings it down, without it we would have got around 30 mil anyway, which is what we're probably willing to accept now
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Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
Jessica Alba's got a lovely behind.
Jessica Alba's got a lovely behind.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
It's always the same with negotiations - you end up settling for slightly less than you wanted, and it initially feels like a disappointment. To put this in perspective, though, Barry went for £12m, Carrick for £18m, Essien for £25m. For a player who doesn't score goals and has only recently broken into the Spain first XI, I'd say £28m (plus bonuses, probably) is a pretty good fee. I'd have preferred to keep Xabi, but once the transfer request was handed in, that was never going to happen. As Rafa4PM said earlier, it all now depends on how we spend the money whether this will be regarded as a 'good' or 'bad' transfer.
It's always the same with negotiations - you end up settling for slightly less than you wanted, and it initially feels like a disappointment. To put this in perspective, though, Barry went for £12m, Carrick for £18m, Essien for £25m. For a player who doesn't score goals and has only recently broken into the Spain first XI, I'd say £28m (plus bonuses, probably) is a pretty good fee. I'd have preferred to keep Xabi, but once the transfer request was handed in, that was never going to happen. As Rafa4PM said earlier, it all now depends on how we spend the money whether this will be regarded as a 'good' or 'bad' transfer.
Re: Xabi Alonso will stay at Anfield, says Rafa Benitez
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=33578.msg917123#msg917123 date=1249303641]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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Turner?? I really hope not.
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Id be happy if we got him cheap, but i think hull would try and squeeze us.
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=33578.msg917123#msg917123 date=1249303641]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=33578.msg917100#msg917100 date=1249302556]
20 million euros will go on Aquilani, then we will have the other 7 million euros for possibly Turner?
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Turner?? I really hope not.
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Id be happy if we got him cheap, but i think hull would try and squeeze us.
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