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Are the issues with his knees just hearsay? Or has there been an actual statement from someone within the club? Doctor, physio etc..
 
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were my updates any good? felt like a spaz whipping me phone out every 5minutes
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I was doing the same thing! Andy probably texted dozens of us! ;D
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Only got your text now Andy.
Soz
 
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Are the issues with his knees just hearsay? Or has there been an actual statement from someone within the club? Doctor, physio etc..
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I've read an interview with him about by he can't play games close together without a rest etc when he was at Cardiff. I seem to remember it to do with him keeping his pace in later years though more than having dodgy knees.
 
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He should never have been off-loaded first time round, never given a decent chance by Rafa, if I was Bellers I would have taken a golf club to Riise, they were meant to be in Portugal on a bonding exercise and the miserable ginger bastard would not take part in the Karaoke , they should have offloaded him and not Bellers if there were issues. I suspect Bellers saw his arse because he cares.
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Looking forward to your explanation for why we should have sold Pacheco instead of Reira, when Reira punched him. s

Pacheco didn't pass when he was asked so Reira was perfectly entitled to punch him...
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Completely different situation Refugee as I am sure you really appreciate, one was about team building and joining in, the other is just a bit of a clash that happens now and again. Anyways I bet Pacheco is a cheeky little fucker.

You just reminded me that Albert was a far better fucking player than bleeding Downing.

regards
 
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He should never have been off-loaded first time round, never given a decent chance by Rafa, if I was Bellers I would have taken a golf club to Riise, they were meant to be in Portugal on a bonding exercise and the miserable ginger bastard would not take part in the Karaoke , they should have offloaded him and not Bellers if there were issues. I suspect Bellers saw his arse because he cares.
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Looking forward to your explanation for why we should have sold Pacheco instead of Reira, when Reira punched him. s

Pacheco didn't pass when he was asked so Reira was perfectly entitled to punch him...
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Completely different situation Refugee as I am sure you really appreciate, one was about team building and joining in, the other is just a bit of a clash that happens now and again. Anyways I bet Pacheco is a cheeky little fucker.

You just reminded me that Albert was a far better fucking player than bleeding Downing.

regards
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I know. It's a proven fact that "Premiership proven players" turn to muck when they sign for us. we should know this.
 
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He should never have been off-loaded first time round, never given a decent chance by Rafa, if I was Bellers I would have taken a golf club to Riise, they were meant to be in Portugal on a bonding exercise and the miserable ginger bastard would not take part in the Karaoke , they should have offloaded him and not Bellers if there were issues. I suspect Bellers saw his arse because he cares.
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Looking forward to your explanation for why we should have sold Pacheco instead of Reira, when Reira punched him. s

Pacheco didn't pass when he was asked so Reira was perfectly entitled to punch him...
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Completely different situation Refugee as I am sure you really appreciate, one was about team building and joining in, the other is just a bit of a clash that happens now and again. Anyways I bet Pacheco is a cheeky little fucker.

You just reminded me that Albert was a far better fucking player than bleeding Downing.

regards
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I know. It's a proven fact that "Premiership proven players" turn to muck when they sign for us. we should know this.
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What, like Craig Bellamy ?
 
hardly, we knew he was class already. Did anyone get as excited about Downing as Bellers. Premiership proven is how we console ourselves when we sign midtable players. But you knew that of course.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EIIzbUQO4GU#!
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CRAIG BELLAMY has told Wales boss Chris Coleman he is ready to quit international football.

The Liverpool striker, who fired his club to the Carling Cup Final last week, is believed to be upset at the axing of his close confidante Raymond Verheijen from the new Wales set-up.

Bellamy, 32, had been ready to retire from the international game before Gary Speed’s appointment to the job.

Coleman took charge last week, two months after Speed’s death, but neither he nor Welsh FA chiefs wanted Dutchman Verheijen to remain as assistant boss.

And that will persuade Bellamy to call it a day for Wales, after 67 caps, as the player also believes such a move could help extend his club career.
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Great stuff for us that.

How long is his contract?
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Apparently its a 2 yr deal he signed.
 
Neil Warnock's column:
At six o'clock, the day before the transfer deadline shut in August, I had a telephone conversation with Craig Bellamy. He was leaving Manchester City and I was trying to persuade him to come to QPR. I'd almost done it, but he'd heard there was the possibility of returning to Liverpool. He told me: "If Liverpool don't come in for me, I'll come [to Rangers]."

He was determined to hang on to see if Liverpool came in for him at the death, and unfortunately for me, they did. I'll never forget that moment. It was about 10pm the following mad night, as I was trying to sign players right, left and centre. I saw one of those "breaking news" flashes on Sky Sports News: "Craig Bellamy signs for Liverpool." I'd heard from his agent about 6pm that Liverpool had been in touch, so I wasn't that surprised, but it was a blow. As he's shown since, he's still a very good player and he could have made a real difference for us.

An hour after the deadline shut I had a phone call from Craig, thanking me for my interest and telling me he always wanted to go back to Liverpool, which I knew. I wished him all the best. The memory came back to me on Wednesday when he scored the goal that sent Liverpool back to Wembley for the first time in 16 years. He was absolutely magnificent, he covered every blade of grass. I bet Roberto Mancini was sat there thinking, "Why on earth did I let him go?"

It'll be strange for Bellers playing against his old team, and his hometown team, Cardiff, but he's such a good pro that when the whistle goes he'll only think about one thing: winning the game. If Cardiff had gone up last season I'm convinced he would have signed for them permanently, but things haven't worked out too badly for him.
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It is supposed to be about statistics, sabermetrics and in-depth analysis. When Fenway Sports Group became owners of Liverpool, their idea was to use a Moneyball approach to transfer dealings.

Given it had been hugely successful in baseball, principal owner John W Henry drafted in Damien Comolli to become Liverpool’s Director of Football and the intention was – and still is – to recruit players who tick particular boxes.

They must be young and talented. If they are ever moved on, they must have a re-sale value. They also have to have outstanding disciplinary and fitness records, while their OPTA stats must stand up to the closest scrutiny.

Look at the vast majority of the players Liverpool have signed during the past 12 months and you will see how they fit into the categories. For instance, it is worth pointing out that Liverpool hardly lose players to soft tissue or muscular injuries now and the squad rarely fall foul of referees.

This, neatly, brings us to Craig Bellamy. He should not fit the mode for the Liverpool player of 2012. For a start, he is 32. He has suffered with serious knee problems in the past and endured spats with referees and opponents alike.

But of all the players Liverpool have brought to the club in the past 12 months, only Luis Suarez has made a bigger impact. It is said the best things in life are free and Messrs Henry, Comolli and Kenny Dalglish would agree that the free transfer capture of Bellamy was an inspired piece of business.

So good was his relentless performance against Manchester City on Wednesday night that even is former team-mates Joe Hart and Micah Richards – who, remember, were on the brink of elimination from the Carling Cup – acknowledged Bellamy, as he left the field to a deafening ovation.

He, clearly, was the difference as Liverpool powered into their first major final for six years and it was intriguing to hear the comparison Steven Gerrard made in the aftermath, when asked to sum up Bellamy’s contribution.

‘Craig has been superb since he’s come in,’ Gerrard enthused. ‘He’s a fantastic professional who works really hard. He was a menace all night – that’s what type of player he is. He’s in your face, he runs in behind, he doesn’t let you settle on the ball.

‘I’m sure if he carries on, he can have the (same) impact at this club that Gary McAllister did.’

It is often said McAllister was the reason Liverpool landed an unprecedented Cup treble in 2001 following his arrival on a Bosman from Leeds. He wasn’t. Gerard Houllier had assembled a terrific squad that was packed with talent.

What McAllister did, though, was provide experience and he had the happy knack of scoring goals on the run-in that season at the most crucial times, like his penalty in the UEFA Cup semi-final against Barcelona or an astonishing injury-time free-kick to settle a derby at Goodison Park.

With his heroics against City, Bellamy has put himself on to a similar plain. Dalglish brought the Wales striker back on a deadline day last August to provide an impact but even he could not have envisaged the move turning out so well.

Well-liked by his team-mates – when Bellamy breezed through the doors of Melwood once again, it was if he had never been away – and loved by The Kop, this is how he anticipated it would have gone first time around, following his £6million arrival from Blackburn in 2006.

Of course, he only lasted 12 months back then and suffered the indignity of being left out of the squad for the Champions League final against AC Milan in Athens, even though his pace would have troubled the Italians back four.

No matter. He is making up for lost time and it could be said he has never looked happier at any stage in his career than he does at this moment.

‘Craig played wonderfully,’ said Dirk Kuyt, reflecting on Bellamy’s turbo-charged display against City. ‘He scored a great goal. But it’s not just been about this one game. For the last couple of months, he has played really well. He is a great help for this club.’

And no amount of statistics are needed to prove that point.
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I have no idea what moneyball means, & quite honestly don't care, cos I like to believe our purchases don't solely revolve around that. Possibly foolishly.
 
Well John Henry came out and said there was no statistical basis for the signings made.

And moneyball is about finding market inefficiencies and value not just signing young players like every journo in the UK seems to think (Soccernomics suggested that as the way forward).

Bellamy is actually a perfect example of moneyball in action, if it is in action at all.
 
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Well John Henry came out and said there was no statistical basis for the signings made.

And moneyball is about finding market inefficiencies and value not just signing young players like every journo in the UK seems to think (Soccernomics suggested that as the way forward).

Bellamy is actually a perfect example of moneyball in action, if it is in action at all.
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Bellamy is pretty much the very definition of Moneyball. I'm still not particularly convinced that this is the approach we are taking (paying way over the odds on Carroll and Downing is the antithesis of Moneyball since their resale value would never have likely exceeded what we paid, even if both had hit the ground running) but Bellamy is a great example.
 
I remember thinking glumly that Bellamy was a mistake; not beause he wasnt a good player, because he was amd should have never been sold.

I thought that the Bellamy we were getting wasnt the one we got 6 years ago.

Well, I was right.
He's better.

Love the bastard.
 
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