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Tevez? disgusting.

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By Paul Gorst.

‘…it will leave a taste in your mouth, ever so sour, like a bad apple. You’re nothing but a bad apple.’

‘What should have been a special night for Manchester City has become a special night for the all wrong reasons’ mused Jeff Stelling.

To be frank, the long-time presenter of Sky Sports’ famous Soccer Saturday was putting a ludicrously mild spin on events

With his team trailing 2-0 to a dominant Bayern Munich in their first ever Champions League campaign, Carlos Tevez should have had a deep sense of urgency to get on the pitch and try and change his team’s ailing performance.

What transpired was the complete opposite, and it is quite remarkable, that even in this day and age where the public’s general perception of the modern day footballer is disdainful, Tevez plunged his profession into a new low.

You see Tevez was asked, reasonably enough, by his manager Roberto Mancini, to remove his training top and warm up in anticipation of taking to the field to try and rescue the game. To which Tevez replied ‘no.’

This is a player who is paid somewhere in the region of hundreds of thousands of pounds per week to play football. He is a millionaire many times over, and it is all down to his aptitude and talent for playing a sport that has taken him thousands of miles away from humble origins in Argentina, literally and figuratively. The man wants for nothing – thanks to professional football.

Yet, when asked to play, he simply refused.

Tevez’s actions have plummeted to new depths of crass, even for an individual as woefully out of touch with realism and decency as he is. It is an astonishing turn of events.

But let us not forget, the Argentine striker has previous for this sort of scandalous showmanship.

Tevez was rescued from a nightmare spell at West Ham United by Sir Alex Ferguson in 2007. He earned the adulation of the Old Trafford faithful through his all-action style and goals. In two years at United, Tevez won the Champions League in 2008, claimed a runners-up medal in 2009 and took away two Premier League winning medals from Old Trafford. He repaid the Scot by leaving – to none other than fierce local rivals who had begun to make waves with some serious spending, thanks to owner Sheikh Mansour.

Then, after earning the adulation of the Eastlands faithful through his all-action style and goals and winning the 2010/11 FA Cup, he asked, or rather this being Tevez, demanded to leave, citing home sickness, and a desire to return to Argentina to be with his wife and daughter.

Curiously, Tevez still entertained a move to Corinthians in Brazil.

Throughout his time in England, Tevez has steadfastly refused to learn the language of the country he has lived in for five years, and the sight of him meekly and downright arrogantly offering his reasons for not playing to Sky through the use of an interpreter only served to irritate further with his detractors.

‘Last season I was the best scorer and put my opinion through that I wanted to leave because of family reasons.’

It is hardly a staunch defence of his own actions, and least season’s statistics do not guarantee anyone complete immunity from life as a substitute, particularly with the arrival of £38m striker Sergio Aguero.

Mancini has rightfully slammed Tevez’s actions and declared almost with twinge of sorrow that he will never play again for Manchester City. It is the very least the striker deserves.

Graeme Souness summed it up perfectly, working as an analyst for Sky Sports’ coverage of the game.

‘We’ve (Souness and fellow pundit Dwight Yorke) been fortunate enough to get paid for something we love to do for nothing as a kid. He’s let his fans down, his team, his manager and he’s let his family down. He is going to be a real problem for whoever his manager is. I would send him as far away from Manchester tomorrow morning if I was the manager. He is a bad apple.’

Fortunately, Manchester City are a team wealthy enough, and a team who have a strong enough squad to let Tevez rot for his actions. It will be quite a sight for anyone who watches Manchester City reserves regularly to see a genuine world class talent turn out for them with such regularity.

The Premier League will be all the better for his inevitable departure in January.
 
This whole thing that his family won't move to England etc etc ...well i don't know the background , is he still married , is it that his wife left him and took his kids or what ? Cause if he's still happily married then surely his wife could manage to move over for a while ....i mean is that not the sort of 'sacrifice' a partner would make for the other ? And with their financial means surely the 'blow' of a move could be softened !! Fuck if they really wanted they could buy Insua and stare at him in an opposite apartment !

But anyway it's pretty fucking disgraceful to refuse to play . I mean yeah he might be pissed off he wasn't sold or hasn't got his place back since but surely he sees why he hasn't . He's just an odd footballer , always talking of retiring , homesick blah blah . Pity cause he can play ...i'd love to see the trouble he and suarez could cause together .

*Edit , pity for him as an individual, not for city ...i'm quite happy he's causing trouble there and pissing them off .
 
It's a joke, though. I'd play for Man City for a thousandth of what he's paid. Fuck it, for free. And he can't even be arsed to learn the language while the club pays him £300,000 a week or whatever ludicrous sums he's on? It's scandalous. It goes beyond unprofessionalism. It makes me wonder about the state of some of the people in the world when this cunt can't even be arsed to try a language, or DO HIS FUCKING JOB, when millions of people would trade lives with him - ugly Frankenstein scars an' all.
 
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Haha yeah got onto that, Gorsty.
 
A pretty thoughtful and even-handed article from the Guardian here:

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When Manchester City signed Carlos Tevez with a few droplets of Sheikh Mansour's oil trillions, the club famously paid for that Deansgate billboard to rub United's noses in the striker's exit, proclaiming: "Welcome to Manchester." In Munich, it was welcome to the big time for Manchester City, and there, the simmering resentments of Tevez finally blew.

For the unheard-of defiance of refusing to come on as a substitute, which would not be tolerated in an Under-9s league in Ashton-under-Lyne, let alone a Champions League tie at the Allianz Arena, City's manager, Roberto Mancini, insisted Tevez must never play for the club again. If an ethos of a football club is to be asserted at the Eastlands collection of players drawn there by the money, it is difficult to see any way other than for Mancini to be supported.

In a modern sport also watching carefully for the reactions of Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba to the novel experience of being treated as squad players at Chelsea, Tevez has epitomised many things. Most memorably at West Ham United it was not his abilities, but "third party ownership", the revelation that his "economic rights" were not held by the club itself but "owned" by offshore companies which would cash in when he was sold. Sir Alex Ferguson, who signed Tevez on a two-year loan after the striker kept the Hammers up on the last day of the 2007 season in the Old Trafford drizzle, said he had been willing to buy Tevez outright, although later Ferguson upset the Argentinian, saying he was not worth the £25.5m United would have been required to pay.

City fans, loving the two fingers thrust at United as represented by that flash billboard, also took to Tevez because his scarred, scampering expression of football embodies the quality English supporters value above all others: commitment. Tevez does not make football look easy, but painted for an English crowd the human reality of giving 100%. As the game gasped at his refusal to come on the field for his manager in Munich, it was easy to forget that until just a couple of weeks ago, this striker on strike was Manchester City's captain, chosen to lead by example.

Yet what has been clear about Tevez throughout his English football story, traded by the men who owned his rights, is that while he does push his own abilities to their edges, like a latter-day, South American incarnation of Kevin Keegan, he struggles to be a selfless club man. When City drew United in the Carling Cup semi-final in January 2010 during Tevez's first season on the blue side of Manchester, he scored both goals in the 2-1 home win. Although it was only the first leg, he had to gesture defiantly to Ferguson with his ears, and frame that mouthing-off sign to Gary Neville, who had said United were managing well enough without Tevez. The Argentinian played that night as if he, not City itself, had to be the centre of whatever script was written that night. City lost the replay, and despite the billboard and Mansour's endless money compared to the Glazers' money-draining operation at Old Trafford, the Blues are not yet truly close to supplanting the Manchester club who have played in the Champions League for 20 years and won it twice.

After a summer in which Tevez was endlessly reported to be wanting a move, which he said was for family reasons because his wife did not like Manchester, Mancini, flush with Sergio Agüero and Edin Dzeko, then diced with Tevez's core sense of himself by relegating the Argentinian to cameo roles as substitute. Tevez did not look happy shorn of his place at the summit of the side but also when he came on, a few minutes at the end of matches were never enough to enable him to show the effort which is the heart of how he expresses his football.

Being placed so far from the centre of the action on the club's greatest night in Europe since City were knocked out by Fenerbahce in 1968, was finally too much for him; he had a tantrum and called the manager's bluff. Now Mancini has in effect called for the backing of the owner, that whatever the financial loss, the striker must go. On what happens next depends not just the extraordinary sporting career of Tevez, but the question of whether a genuine football team can be fashioned at Manchester City, bridging 43 years' absence from the top of the European game with the money of a man in Abu Dhabi.

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Personally I would not overly dramatize the situation. Refusing to play is an indefensible decision, but that doesn't make him a villain. Just a proud, self-centered, stupid man who has probably ended his European career with this one decision.
 
Just read what Mancini had to say. Must say I'm very impressed by his reaction, he evidently takes no shit.
 
Will we want him if he can win us the EPL? Just like what that arrogant French did for MU?
 
actually , just wondering ...if his english is so bad , how did he ever become club captain ?
 
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actually , just wondering ...if his english is so bad , how did he ever become club captain ?
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cause they have no soul
 
As much as I enjoy seeing turmoil at a rival club, my overriding feeling here is what a massive cunt Tevez is. This is a player I was hoping we would sign on his way out of Utd, thank God we didn't. Him and his mate Mascherano are from the same cloth.
Aguero will do the same, I expect Suarez to do the same. By & large South Americans footy players are mercenary bastards, they used to flit from one Italian team to another to Real to Roma etc etc. Now they're involving Prem teams.
Bell ends. Avoid.
 
I have no sympathy for City or Mancini . Tevez engineered a move for money and spite. City rubbed Uniteds nose in it and paraded Tevez as a symbol of their arrival.
He was and is clearly a talent but a right twat. As someone wisely said earlier, they made their bed now lie in it.
 
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I have no sympathy for City or Mancini . Tevez engineered a move for money and spite. City rubbed Uniteds nose in it and paraded Tevez as a symbol of their arrival.
He was and is clearly a talent but a right twat. As someone wisely said earlier, they made their bed now lie in it.
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Pretty much Vlad, what goes around comes around. That's the game they've gotten into and they'll have to take the rough with the smooth regards diva's in the squad.

Why he stayed here can be for no reason but money, he milks a club, goes through the cycle of loving the club and it's fans for a year and then lets it be known how badly done to he is being seperated from his family. Moves to another Premiership club and repeats over again. He should just fuck off back to Argentina if he's that bothered. He could have took a Golden Handshake or come to some sort of agreement by now, he's earned enough dough.
 
It baffles me why footballers or their families seem unable to make small sacrifices given their laughably short careers and the immense reward they get. Oh wait, no it doesn't. It's because they're greedy fucking bellends who want everything on plate.
 
Im not sure, but Im sure I've heard this somewhere before about an Argentinian player. Just cant remember his name at the moment
 
"I would like to apologise to all Manchester City fans, with whom I have always had a strong relationship, for any misunderstanding that occurred in Munich.

"They understand that when I am on the pitch I have always given my best for the club.

"In Munich on Tuesday I had warmed up and was ready to play. This is not the right time to get into specific details as to why this did not happen. But I wish to state that I never refused to play.

"There was some confusion on the bench and I believe my position may have been misunderstood.

"Going forward I am ready to play when required and to fulfil my obligations."


That's pretty much what he had to say to get around being punished / sued for breach of contract.

So I don't believe him
 
The first article is a little over the top, is it not?

It's not like he's murdered anyone. And it's not like he stabbed Utd in the back when he moved to City - they were messing about and not being decisive about whether they wanted to sign him or not.

He is a prick though.
 
I don't think United were necessarily messing him about, it looked like they had no money until they let Ronaldo go. It was only after then that they made an offer but it was too late.
 
I think if a club adopts a policy where it pays a large number of players obscene amounts of money to be part of a massive squad, so that they pretty much couldn't care less if they're playing or not, and the manager needn't care if he decides to ignore any of them, snub any of them or sends them off to train with the youth team, then it's a bit rum to then complain if any particular player doesn't seem loyal or committed. If you tear the soul out of a club, don't start asking where the soul's gone. Tevez's attitude stinks, as does Balotelli's, but it suits that club down to the ground. Welcome to Manchester. Welcome to modern football.
 
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I think if a club adopts a policy where it pays a large number of players obscene amounts of money to be part of a massive squad, so that they pretty much couldn't care less if they're playing or not, and the manager needn't care if he decides to ignore any of them, snub any of them or sends them off to train with the youth team, then it's a bit rum to then complain if any particular player doesn't seem loyal or committed. If you tear the soul out of a club, don't start asking where the soul's gone. Tevez's attitude stinks, as does Balotelli's, but it suits that club down to the ground. Welcome to Manchester. Welcome to modern football.
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that's a very good post, macca.
 
people suggested we should have held on to the wantaway torres, well, this is why when a player wants out you get rid asap.
 
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I think if a club adopts a policy where it pays a large number of players obscene amounts of money to be part of a massive squad, so that they pretty much couldn't care less if they're playing or not, and the manager needn't care if he decides to ignore any of them, snub any of them or sends them off to train with the youth team, then it's a bit rum to then complain if any particular player doesn't seem loyal or committed. If you tear the soul out of a club, don't start asking where the soul's gone. Tevez's attitude stinks, as does Balotelli's, but it suits that club down to the ground. Welcome to Manchester. Welcome to modern football.
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That's actually spot on.
 
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people suggested we should have held on to the wantaway Torres, well, this is why when a player wants out you get rid asap.
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The difference is, if we had held onto Torres we would have played him, and probably not got this reaction.
 
This is the result of ridiculous fees and wages.

Man city were interesting to watch as a team last night; when the going got tough, the tough got going.

I've tipped them, naively for the league this season , however in fulham and Munich I've seen enough to suggest otherwise, they aren't a team, just a team of very talented egos and individuals.

I've never been in a position where a colleague has flat out refused to work but I can only begin to imagine the potential problems.

I'd have more respect for him if he was honest at this point though an took the financial rammifications that ca
E with refusing to play rather than claiming it was a misunderstanding .


Interesting how mascherano did the same thing Against man city of all clubs ... That seemed to pass by relatively quietly compared to the barn storm this has provoked
 
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