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I see now he's doing Celeb Big Brother, so it suddenly makes some kind of commercial sense. And it's published by John Blake, who specialise in memoirs by ex-cons and gangsters, so that makes sense, too. And it's ghostwritten by John 'Marcel Proust' Cross, so there's a grim logic to the whole thing. Ghastly.
 
I see now he's doing Celeb Big Brother, so it suddenly makes some kind of commercial sense. And it's published by John Blake, who specialise in memoirs by ex-cons and gangsters, so that makes sense, too. And it's ghostwritten by John 'Marcel Proust' Cross, so there's a grim logic to the whole thing. Ghastly.

Saw the turd talk about the book on Twitter earlier, didn't realise it was self-serving promotion.
 

Apparently. These are his actual quotes on Rafa:

“On the pitch, often I can see what’s best. Ultimately you have to trust the players once they cross the white line. But with Rafa, it was constant directions.
Just sometimes, he might as well have turned a player into an Xbox, dressed me up like RoboCop and put a picture of my face on it. I’m not a defensive midfielder. I’m not James Milner, who keeps it simple. I’m a flair player and do my own thing. But his constant instructions really restricted me. They stopped me from being free. He could never let me do my thing.

When you have so many instructions, it makes it so difficult. You’ve got some instructions and tactics in your mind and yet he’s shouting even more at you. All of a sudden you’re confused. You’ve got two sets of instructions in your mind and you’re left wondering what to do. It means that, suddenly, you mess up with a simple pass because your mind is all over the place. Honestly, Rafa was a nightmare like that."


“There were times when I would get so angry about how boring and repetitive training was that I would just lose it and shout, ‘For f**k’s sake – just give us a bit of a five-a-side!’
“As a player, you just want a bit of fun, to make training good and lively. But, with Rafa, the training was so boring that you’d come in and all you’d want to do was slit your wrists! The amount of time in training that we’d do shape, tactics and nothing else!” With Rafa, it is all about himself. It was either his way or no way. The man management was down to his staff. That was why, when Pako Ayestarán (his assistant) went, they had a parting of the ways and things started to go downhill a bit.”
 
And Tennants wonders why so many people despise him, and Liverpool fans are embarrassed the cunt ever played for us.
 
Rafa has to have a look at himself for signing the blithering fuckwit in the first place. It was pretty obvious it was never going to end well. Added to the fact that Pennant was never really any good.
 
Rafa has to have a look at himself for signing the blithering fuckwit in the first place. It was pretty obvious it was never going to end well. Added to the fact that Pennant was never really any good.

I don't mind signing players even when it's obvious it's not going to end well so long as it starts pretty well. It depends what you need here and now, to quote Bobby Madley. A bit like in politics, it rarely ever ends well in football signings. They're either dumped or they move on. I struggle even to remember Pennant, but he did play fairly well, didn't he, during the run to the CL final, and even was the MOM for some at the end. So, not bad - and Rafa, if he has time for such reflection, surely has worse transfer errors to twitch about and regret...
 
If I remember it correctly Pennant wasn't his first choice.
 
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I always thought Dani Alves was first choice.

Yes, and reportedly (via Danny Murphy) we reached agreement with Seville on the fee, but Parry and the board pulled the rug out from under the whole thing by deciding late in the negotiations that they wanted to pay by instalments, whereupon Seville told us where we could shove our instalments and the deal was off.
 
Yes, and reportedly (via Danny Murphy) we reached agreement with Seville on the fee, but Parry and the board pulled the rug out from under the whole thing by deciding late in the negotiations that they wanted to pay by instalments, whereupon Seville told us where we could shove our instalments and the deal was off.
No.. This was the real reason. I remember reading similar at the time. The board wouldn't sanction a deal for 1 player when they could get 2 Englishman for the same price.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/socc...rpool-missed-out-on-the-signing-of-dani-alves
 
Reading that it's very clear that Rick Parry single handedly set us on the downward spiral for a decade. With a better a person handling the business side of things, we wouldn't have needed to sell the club to G&H in the first place.
 
Reading that it's very clear that Rick Parry single handedly set us on the downward spiral for a decade. With a better a person handling the business side of things, we wouldn't have needed to sell the club to G&H in the first place.
Parry was a yes man.. He loved the club, but didn't have the balls to really put his own views forward.
 
Now it's my turn to disagree with you. IMHO the problem with Parry was the mirror opposite - he came to the club when we had an incompetent nonentity as chairman and as a result was left to do everything his way, by direct contrast with his relatively successful time at the Premier League, a much more bureaucratic organisation in which his freedom of action was far more circumscribed.
 
Parry was a yes man.. He loved the club, but didn't have the balls to really put his own views forward.

Well, he also surely had professional pride, and professional ambition - after all, he came to us after helping, against considerable opposition, to push through the Premier League. A yes man wouldn't have achieved that. You're right he loved the club, but it was almost as though he'd burnt himself being dynamic for the Premier League, and just didn't have the fight or energy left for us. Add to that the fact he was supposedly 'monitored' by Davey Moores, who was a one-man revival of Robb Wilton's bumbling characters (one for the teenagers - a great old Liverpool comic, look him up), and we were doomed with him. But it's forgotten these days - when he arrived, all the press claimed we'd 'won' the services of the most modern, iconoclastic and driven execs in football.
 
Apparently. These are his actual quotes on Rafa:

“On the pitch, often I can see what’s best. Ultimately you have to trust the players once they cross the white line. But with Rafa, it was constant directions.
Just sometimes, he might as well have turned a player into an Xbox, dressed me up like RoboCop and put a picture of my face on it. I’m not a defensive midfielder. I’m not James Milner, who keeps it simple. I’m a flair player and do my own thing. But his constant instructions really restricted me. They stopped me from being free. He could never let me do my thing.

When you have so many instructions, it makes it so difficult. You’ve got some instructions and tactics in your mind and yet he’s shouting even more at you. All of a sudden you’re confused. You’ve got two sets of instructions in your mind and you’re left wondering what to do. It means that, suddenly, you mess up with a simple pass because your mind is all over the place. Honestly, Rafa was a nightmare like that."

“There were times when I would get so angry about how boring and repetitive training was that I would just lose it and shout, ‘For f**k’s sake – just give us a bit of a five-a-side!’
“As a player, you just want a bit of fun, to make training good and lively. But, with Rafa, the training was so boring that you’d come in and all you’d want to do was slit your wrists! The amount of time in training that we’d do shape, tactics and nothing else!” With Rafa, it is all about himself. It was either his way or no way. The man management was down to his staff. That was why, when Pako Ayestarán (his assistant) went, they had a parting of the ways and things started to go downhill a bit.”

"I'm a flair player"
 
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