Suárez vs Terry.
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This.
Though I will add that Didi - for whom I usually have the highest admiration - should take his own advice as well.
I don't know whether he should leave it. I'm loathed to see him land himself in hot water for it again, but if he truly believes in his innocence, and that, as many of us suggested, United's political power won the day, then why should he lie and make all the adverse things written about him to be seemingly true after all. Good on him for sticking to his guns, he does need to move on about it, but this is freedom of speech, he took the punishment but still maintained his innocence, as he has every right to do.
He does have every right to maintain his innocence, but he should IMHO not go public over it, not any more.
No, fair do's, as I said, I don't want to see him get in shit for it again. If asked about it, he should just say he wants to move on but he knows what really happened.
Yes, you can. You can say that you don't accept you're guilty but you're drawing a line under the matter for everyone's sake.
Allegedly.
If you're innocent you appeal.
I was in the High Court on this very point last Monday. Criminal conviction, never appealed - the victim sued for damage caused. The judge said that if somebody wanted to assert their innocence, like this lad here, he should appealed at the time. He didn't, we won our motion. The case continues.
I was in the High Court on this very point last Monday. Criminal conviction, never appealed - the victim sued for damage caused. The judge said that if somebody wanted to assert their innocence, like this lad here, he should appealed at the time. He didn't, we won our motion. The case continues.
In legal terms, certainly (and a good few of us wanted that to happen). In practical terms, you'll know yourself that sometimes you cut your losses irrespective of your view of the justice of the matter.
Suarez wasnt in court was he?
It doesn't change the fact that if you're innocent and feel as strongly as Suarez says he does, you appeal.
I think he has every right to feel aggrieved. He clearly feels like he's been stitched up. If he wants to say it publically let him.
It does if you're appealing to the same guys who convicted you in the first place.
Anyway I believe the Suarez took ( not accepted) his punishment whilst maintaining his innocence.
I also believe that he should now stop talking to the media about it, as I said earlier. He is doing himself or the club no favours at all.
Criminal appeals are more in line with someone being able to prove their innocence, as you have more grounds of appeal, can call more witnesses, can submit new evidence, pretty much anything that is reasonable. Appealing to a disciplinary panel is not about proving innocence, you can't do any of the above, and realistically the only chance you stand of winning is if they fucked up on a technicality. Unless you plan to take it further to the courts, then an appeal is pointless. You may as well just call them a bunch of cunts, leave a key logger on their computer, and then quietly wait and watch until they download some illegal porn or fuck up with some attempted fraud, then you step in and show them how real justice is served like a boss.
That's very similar to an analogy I posted earlier....
Fox, there was a thread with this news item in it but it was locked by our benevolent overlords.
Semantics. Reasonable doubt is what I mean by innocence. And the reason most appeals are technical and procedural is because it is the best way for guilty fuckers to go about getting away with their crime.
The point is, you have the opportunity in an appeal court to argue your case, a second chance, with new evidence to prove a reasonable doubt. In the case of Suarez the argument is already over and concluded by those cunts. All he can appeal is the way the argument was conducted, if it was done correctly, fairly, without bias etc etc. But he would not be able to for example go get a translator with a functioning brain cell to demonstrate that the FA's evidence was gibberish, and what the meaning of negro is etc. None of that would be permissible in his appeal. So what is the point? He'd be reduced to trying to get off the charge in the same way that guilty fuckers do in a criminal court.
That's not the point. The point is whether he should have come out and said it publicly. I've been in his corner all along, but I do think he and all of us would benefit if he choked off any press enquiries, interview questions etc.on the subject. It needs to be consigned firmly to the past now.
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