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Moreno shouldnt play, we have to win. I dont want to see his stupid face in the line up.
 
But we need to win, not draw.

Nah. We need 2 Points in Our two Next games. One against Stoke is fine.

But we defoe need fresh legs on wednesday. And even if we look at 8 days between the games we are in an extremely tough period With Limited number of legs to share the burden.
 
Nah. We need 2 Points in Our two Next games. One against Stoke is fine.

But we defoe need fresh legs on wednesday. And even if we look at 8 days between the games we are in an extremely tough period With Limited number of legs to share the burden.
But say we draw with stoke and then lose at stamford bridge? All of a sudden we then have to win our last game. No need for that added pressure. Beat Stoke and even if we lose at chelsea we will only need a draw against Brighton. We have enough rest time between games. Finish stoke early and then take off salah and firm after 70 mins.
 
We should play close to our best 11.

There are 4 days to rest either side. It's not like the Everton game when we had 3 days to rest either side.

Karius
Gomez, VVD, Klavan, Robbo
Hendo
Wini Milner
Salah Firmino Mane

Get the game won by 60 mins and then rest WITH the ball.

Time waste. Pass it around.

Firmino (70), Hendo (65) and Salah (80) are the ones I'd look to sub off and give a rest.
 
I doubt Klopp will rotate that much. Maybe 2-3 players, seeing as we don't play again until Wednesday.
Its also important not to lose our momentum and we need 3 points.

I wouldn't play an under strength side, at all.
We are within one decent performance of the CL Final, our first for a decade, I wouldn't be taking any chances whatsoever with our top players and it's not as if Clyne, Klavan, Woodburn etc. aren't good enough for Stoke.
 
We just don't have the depth to cope with these injuries. One more and we're in serious trouble.

I'm guessing we can't recall anyone?

It would be great to have someone like Grujic to play in this game. As it stands we don't really any option but to play our first choice midfield.

Would not help this weekend, but I wonder if we can use Grujic and Wilson against Brighton, if needed, to protect any players for the final. Championship is done a week earlier?

And, I assume that we cannot add any players to CL squad to cover for injuries? Maybe young ones?
 
I'd rest TAA, Hendo and potentially Firmino, get a three goal lead, then potentially take off the likes of Milner, Salah.

At the end of the day, we have four days rest each side of this game, that should be enough for our guys, I'd argue the lift of practically sealing the top four would be bigger for our players than a few days more rest and a loss.
 
I'd rest TAA, Hendo and potentially Firmino, get a three goal lead, then potentially take off the likes of Milner, Salah.

At the end of the day, we have four days rest each side of this game, that should be enough for our guys, I'd argue the lift of practically sealing the top four would be bigger for our players than a few days more rest and a loss.

Isolated 4 days rest is enough. But Stoke and Roma will be 8th and 9th game in a short Space of time where plenty of injuries has led to the same guys have played almost every one of these games. We saw last January what draining the guys do to Our team. Youngsters that are ready to fight for a Place in Next season first team Squad should step up now.
 
Torn on this game. We need to rest some
Players and need 3 points ahead of the Chelsea game but the players coming in aren’t really good enough. I Would Play the same back 4 and rest Salah, frim and Milner.
 
-----------------Karius-----------------
Clyne---Gomez--Klavan--Moreno
-------------Gini---Milner-------------
------------------TAA------------------- (or Woodburn)
---Salah------Ings-------Mane-----

The back line has too many liabilities. VVD has had half the season off, so should play. Moreno should only be used sparingly and then only as a sub. Gomez still panics when under pressure.

-----------------Karius-----------------
Clyne---VVD---------Klavan--Robertson
-------------Gini---Milner-------------
------------------TAA------------------- (or Woodburn)
---Salah------Ings-------Mane

Depending on how comfortable we are then make the necessary subs.
 
The back line has too many liabilities. VVD has had half the season off, so should play. Moreno should only be used sparingly and then only as a sub. Gomez still panics when under pressure.

-----------------Karius-----------------
Clyne---VVD---------Klavan--Robertson
-------------Gini---Milner-------------
------------------TAA------------------- (or Woodburn)
---Salah------Ings-------Mane

Depending on how comfortable we are then make the necessary subs.

We are talking Stoke here.
 
The back line has too many liabilities. VVD has had half the season off, so should play. Moreno should only be used sparingly and then only as a sub. Gomez still panics when under pressure.

-----------------Karius-----------------
Clyne---VVD---------Klavan--Robertson
-------------Gini---Milner-------------
------------------TAA------------------- (or Woodburn)
---Salah------Ings-------Mane

Depending on how comfortable we are then make the necessary subs.
It isn't about how much a player has played in a season it's about 4, high intensity, games in 12 days. So no matter how many games you've played this season that could/would deplete most players' energy levels.

And you are advocating playing TAA in a position he has never played for the first team ? Right of a midfield three perhaps (probably his long term future) but not as an untried #8. Definitely Woodburn.
 
It isn't about how much a player has played in a season it's about 4, high intensity, games in 12 days. So no matter how many games you've played this season that could/would deplete most players' energy levels.

And you are advocating playing TAA in a position he has never played for the first team ? Right of a midfield three perhaps (probably his long term future) but not as an untried #8. Definitely Woodburn.
I think Mark was the first to suggested it, and I brought into his theory. Makes surging runs and know how to pass. Regardless of what ever happens Moreno should not start at LB.
 
We've only won one game after a Champions league game this season when the front 3 havent started together. At home to Palace, were we didnt score the winner until all 3 were on the pitch.

Safe to say, if we want to win on Saturday, they have to start.
Better to start them and then possibly subbing a couple of them latish in the game.
 
We've only won one game after a Champions league game this season when the front 3 havent started together. At home to Palace, were we didnt score the winner until all 3 were on the pitch.

Safe to say, if we want to win on Saturday, they have to start.
Better to start them and then possibly subbing a couple of them latish in the game.

This is football. Each game live it's own life. We can't plan the subs 3 days before the match. Wijnaldum helped us turn the Roma game but we didn't plan that.

We have zero alternatives in goal. Few in defence. Zero at midfield. And Zero up front at the moment. So who to risk.

In goal Mignolet can have his farewell game.Defence we have Clyne, Gomez, Klavan and Moreno to step in and do a job. Midfield I don' have a clue except Woodburn can be ready. And up front Solanke and Ings will get a game (they are still no alternative for CL). It is better to have youngsters and reserves out there fighting for their future than the eleven We need in Roma out there trying to stay healthy.
 
It's a mad world when Stoke City are tougher opponents than Champions League Semi-Finalists.

I dont think we can afford to field a weak side, Stoke evidently arent having a good season but we need to kill off this race for Champions League football ASAP / not have to rely on winning the thing to qualify for next season.
 
It's a mad world when Stoke City are tougher opponents than Champions League Semi-Finalists.

I dont think we can afford to field a weak side, Stoke evidently arent having a good season but we need to kill off this race for Champions League football ASAP / not have to rely on winning the thing to qualify for next season.
Exactly, as soon as we do that we can start doing what so maybe on the forum want us to do now, pretending that the premier league doesn't exist.
 
Weak side = one in which any of : Moreno, Klavan, Ings, So(s)wanky, Mignolet starts
 
Exactly, as soon as we do that we can start doing what so maybe on the forum want us to do now, pretending that the premier league doesn't exist.

PL exists, and so do CL. At the moment we have far superior upper hand in PL and far superior opposition in CL. Easy question. Where do you want to see Danny Ings start the game. Vs Stoke or Roma?
 
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