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Sterling contract

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Looking at that list it says our average salary for a squad player is 65k. No wonder Sterling wants way more than that, he's in the top few players out of the 40 odd in the first team squad.
 
Wage bill should correlate to position, which means that we should be at least in the last 16 of the CL every year, and if the manager was overperforming we'd be in the semis or whatever.
We are massively underperforming. The finances aren't the issue, it's the use of them.


Fair - we aren't allocating the wage pool correctly is how I would read this. Is our squad really that much bigger than others? Or are we just overpaying mediocre players?

My point is more around clubs who have players on contracts in the ballpark of £100,000 - £200,000 a week. We don't do that bar Gerrard from what I can tell. Whereas our actual competition are able to attract a higher calibre of player by offering these wages.
 
When Keegan nearly won the league with Newcastle they had about 19 players. They stopped the reserves, stopped the kids, threw everything at the first team. Apparently it was why Dalglish and Barnes had such a tough time of it when they turned up, they had to reallocate it all to turn it back into a real football club, at huge cost to the first team.

I dunno what the split is at our place, I'm just saying that with those resources we can't be crying poverty or saying that we can't compete. We clearly can.
 
£70k sounds like a complete low ball offer.

If you think Sterling is a £30m player then the market wages would be about £120k.
 
Well more than Atheltico Madrid, Dortmund, Porto, Basel, Bayer Leverkusen, Schalke, Shaktar, all of who are in the last 16 of the CL. Loads more than 4 clubs who are currently above us in the league. But that's just now. The fact that we haven't even been in the 32 teams in the CL for 5 years when we've been in the top 10 rich clubs and top 10 wage payers throughout shows how badly we've been run.
Due to UK tax laws (50% tax) our money doesn't go as far as money from other countries does. Not that I don't agree with your point, its just a consideration.
 
I know that foreign nationals in Spain get a big tax break, but that's it. The Spanish players pay higher tax than the UK. As do the French and the Italians. Germans about the same.
 
When Keegan nearly won the league with Newcastle they had about 19 players. They stopped the reserves, stopped the kids, threw everything at the first team. Apparently it was why Dalglish and Barnes had such a tough time of it when they turned up, they had to reallocate it all to turn it back into a real football club, at huge cost to the first team.

I dunno what the split is at our place, I'm just saying that with those resources we can't be crying poverty or saying that we can't compete. We clearly can.



I'm not saying we can't compete, i'm saying we don't choose to. We don't appear to want to try to. I feel there is an underlying issue that is stopping us from signing players on big big wages.
 
The main thing stopping us is the massive money we're paying to really average players.


Yes - I think I mentioned that in my first post.. We have too many players who don't feature enough (some because they aren't good enough to do so) who are on significant wages.
 
I know that foreign nationals in Spain get a big tax break, but that's it. The Spanish players pay higher tax than the UK. As do the French and the Italians. Germans about the same.

Spain charges less tax for foreign nationals than it does for Spaniards? Blimey, I honestly thought UK charged more than the rest.
 
I might be talking loads of shit here but I recall the thing in Spain was about a tax incentive introduced to attract talent from overseas and to encourage some ex pats to come back into the failing boardrooms of Spanish businesses. Because of the way it was worded foreign footy players and ones who'd been playing overseas also qualified, and it's something like 20%. The normal higher rate tax in Spain is 52%.

I'll let Del tell you about why him and his missus had to move to Berlin (I've forgot the ins and outs but it's dead interesting). A similar but even weirder loophole to allow them to ultimately stay together in the UK.

@Delinquent
 
Spain charges less tax for foreign nationals than it does for Spaniards? Blimey, I honestly thought UK charged more than the rest.
Income tax is higher here than the UK, for the average earner. I don't know what it's like for people higher up the pay scale. People on minimum wage are paying 20% tax at the moment. The services are bullshit at the moment, I've to wait until May to get a fucking eye examination.

Of course dodging tax is the name of the game, if you can do it that is.
 
Well more than Atheltico Madrid, Dortmund, Porto, Basel, Bayer Leverkusen, Schalke, Shaktar, all of who are in the last 16 of the CL. Loads more than 4 clubs who are currently above us in the league. But that's just now. The fact that we haven't even been in the 32 teams in the CL for 5 years when we've been in the top 10 rich clubs and top 10 wage payers throughout shows how badly we've been run.


Yes, we have under-performed on the pitch in comparison to some teams in other League's. I suspect if those teams were competing with Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal they may not have qualified.

So less than our real rivals for CL qualification.
 
Should we be worried about the contract situation then?
We're so badly run that I have no confidence in the people responsible for tying up this contract.

Hopefully Sterling wants to stay and will sign an improved offer.
 
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