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Stadium Plans to be unveiled by the end of the month.

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"Liverpool fans will go into the summer with memories of special days and nights that will live long in their memories"

That is a fucking atrocious sentence.


Reminds me of this time years I went for a pub lunch with my family and the menu had clearly been written by a moron. 'Fresh baked pizzas topped with a choice of toppings' and stuff like that.
 
There's a fair few people I've spoken to who are well pissed off with the capacity.

Most people were expecting 70k with secondary plans to increase to 100k.

We have 55k with some very sketchy idea on pushing to 59k.

It is underwhelming, there's no escaping it, however I'm of the opinion it was either this or nothing, thanks to both financial & travel infrastructure concerns (they're kinda the one & the same as a ton of cash would circumvent the travel infrastructure problem).

As I outlined earlier, I think we could see a push for the travel infrastructure after this first stage is complete so that when the Anfield road stage is being planned further plans to expand could be pushed through.
 
Of course its underwhelming, its been so long waiting, and we've seen shiny grand plans that probably would have ruined the club, had we actually committed to them.

It's like we've been looking at the covers of car magazines, with shiny flash cars that we could never afford, and now we are buying the prudent gets me from A to B car that actually makes sense.

The nice thing is it seems this one will actually get done.
 
Increasing the capacity with 14.000 is only positive.
We were told for years that redeveloping Anfield was impossible. But now that looks like happening.
Getting it to 60k now and then having a discussion later wheter or not to increase it to 75k and do something with the transport infrastructure has probably already been discussed and planned for.
Doing it step by step and not cripple the club with debt is great imho.

Latest confirmed waiting list for a season ticket is now 28k.
 
How can it be underwhelming to anyone who's read anything about this whole thing any time in the last 10 years?

60k was the limit for this initial phase of expansion. It's a little bit odd to go with 58k or 59k instead of the full amount, granted, but hardly worth kicking up a fuss about for 1500 seats.

We've known for years that anything more just wasn't going to happen. The bloke from the Mirror was talking bollocks.
 
There's a fair few people I've spoken to who are well pissed off with the capacity.

Most people were expecting 70k with secondary plans to increase to 100k.

We have 55k with some very sketchy idea on pushing to 59k.

It is underwhelming, there's no escaping it, however I'm of the opinion it was either this or nothing, thanks to both financial & travel infrastructure concerns (they're kinda the one & the same as a ton of cash would circumvent the travel infrastructure problem).

As I outlined earlier, I think we could see a push for the travel infrastructure after this first stage is complete so that when the Anfield road stage is being planned further plans to expand could be pushed through.

I think FSG had mentioned since Oct 2012 when they decided to stay at Anfield, that the capacity would be 60K. For those people to still be expecting 70K pushing 100K seems to be out of touch or uninformed.
 
I think the decision to go from a new ground to a redevelopment could cause disappointment but how does anyone realistically expect to overhaul the current stadium into an 80-90k seater in one go?

Current capacity = 45k, so call it 11,250 a stand. We are managing to redevelop one stand to close to double that without meaning we would have a reduced capacity at any point of the next season or two. I think that is positive. AND I think it looks quality as well.

The bollocks about it ruining the Kop is a pointless statement too. If that is a concern then we should either only redevelop that (unlikely tbh and would cause uproar) or just not bother at all.
 
The bloke from the Mirror was talking bollocks.

I think it was a guest article but fuck me it is a shite read. Reads very selfishly of "I wanted 100k seats so that I can always get a ticket" with little consideration that maybe our owners are ensuring they are making upgrades whilst being able to keep it within financial control.
 
This is what the area should look like if they opened up a 'circle line', which is over 80% built already.

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cheers for that. would make transport to west derby etc so much easier. miseryrail
 
I'm just happy there's progress with plans for further progress. 58k is a good amount. That's an extra £10million a year just from the league, plus god knows what else from the hospitality side. I just want the work to start, and it looks like it will soon enough.
 
The article is by Jim Boardman of TAW.

By the way is it true that there will be no reduction of capacity when the redevelopment is taking place?
 
I think the decision to go from a new ground to a redevelopment could cause disappointment but how does anyone realistically expect to overhaul the current stadium into an 80-90k seater in one go?

Current capacity = 45k, so call it 11,250 a stand. We are managing to redevelop one stand to close to double that without meaning we would have a reduced capacity at any point of the next season or two. I think that is positive. AND I think it looks quality as well.

The bollocks about it ruining the Kop is a pointless statement too. If that is a concern then we should either only redevelop that (unlikely tbh and would cause uproar) or just not bother at all.


I think the Main Stand and the Kop are about 12.5k each, Centenary is 11.5k, and Annie Rd about 9.5k.

The Kop would be very difficult and almost certainly uneconomic to extend, so that's a no-go. As are the new stands, obviously. So that leaves the Centenary and possibly the corners at the Anfield Rd end. The Centenary is already high, so you'd probably be looking at a max of 5k on there. The corners might yield about 6k in total.

So the highest it could ever realistically go is about 70k.
 
Somebody did mention earlier that if controlled standing is introduced it could add around 6K to the Kop capacity.
 
On a sidenote:

Our average CL attendance in our the past 5 seasons of participation (31 matches) is 40,720.
http://lfcstats.co.uk/champsattendances.html

Our average Europa League attendance in our the past 3 seasons of participation (17 matches) is 37,675.
http://lfcstats.co.uk/europaattendances.html

For domestic cup (last 5 season's average), its 39,741.
(13/14: 43,167
12/14: 37,521
11/12: 44,200
10/12: 34,058
09/10: 39,761)

This season's league average so far is 44,665.
12/13: 44,749
11/12: 44,253
10/11: 42,820
09/10: 42,864
 
I tell you what I always wonder: what is the actual working capacity of Anfield for a PL game? It never seems to hit 45k even for the biggest games. I know there's always some issues, plus a few seats left empty to divide the supporters, but still, would expect higher attendances than we manage.

Anyone know?
 
I think the Main Stand and the Kop are about 12.5k each, Centenary is 11.5k, and Annie Rd about 9.5k.

The Kop would be very difficult and almost certainly uneconomic to extend, so that's a no-go. As are the new stands, obviously. So that leaves the Centenary and possibly the corners at the Anfield Rd end. The Centenary is already high, so you'd probably be looking at a max of 5k on there. The corners might yield about 6k in total.

So the highest it could ever realistically go is about 70k.
The picture on the official site seems to suggest a "phase 2" expansion of the Anfield Rd end (or am I misnterpreting?) :-
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I tell you what I always wonder: what is the actual working capacity of Anfield for a PL game? It never seems to hit 45k even for the biggest games. I know there's always some issues, plus a few seats left empty to divide the supporters, but still, would expect higher attendances than we manage.

Anyone know?


Would it have anything to do with the visitors not taking up their full allocation on the day?
 
The picture on the official site seems to suggest a "phase 2" expansion of the Anfield Rd end (or am I misnterpreting?) :-
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The phase 2 expansion is the 4800 seats to get us to 58k capacity. There won't be any more added to that stand after that.
 
So what's the revenue increment expected?

I read a few old reports that we were targeting 70 million from the existing 40-45 million. Still on course with this?
 
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