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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225084#msg1225084 date=1290967220]
think that snuffs out any hope of CL football next year.
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Hahahaha. More sensationalist bollocks from you. How many points off the top 4 are we? How many games are there to go?

Give it up Neil, this isn't a tabloid newspaper.
 
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225063#msg1225063 date=1290966992]
Surely to FUCK that has to be it for Roy now. We couldn't put our chances away, we sat back in the second half and invited them on, and we duly lost. Say all you want about the players, but the buck stops with Roy.
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Sorry mate that is bollox. Roy kept two up top all game and let Raul and Lucas go forward. That defeat had nothing to do with him and all to do with shite finishing. Spurs are a top team and even my spurs mate said he was impressed with us and we were the better team. That is the best we have played away all season it is getting better.
 
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=42955.msg1225091#msg1225091 date=1290967340]
spurs are far better than us [/quote]

I don't think that's true to be honest, if we were clinical the game would have been over first half. maxi's miss for instance was fucking CRIMINAL.
 
We simply arent good enough.

Sadly we need a manager who can get us to overperform, and we have the opposite.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=42955.msg1225101#msg1225101 date=1290967443]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225063#msg1225063 date=1290966992]
Surely to FUCK that has to be it for Roy now. We couldn't put our chances away, we sat back in the second half and invited them on, and we duly lost. Say all you want about the players, but the buck stops with Roy.
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Sorry mate that is bollox. Roy kept two up top all game and let Raul and Lucas go forward. That defeat had nothing to do with him and all to do with shite finishing. Spurs are a top team and even my spurs mate said he was impressed with us and we were the better team. That is the best we have played away all season it is getting better.
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Rubbish. We surrendered the second half, and the game with it, and that's down to the manager.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=42955.msg1225098#msg1225098 date=1290967412]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225084#msg1225084 date=1290967220]
think that snuffs out any hope of CL football next year.
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Hahahaha. More sensationalist bollocks from you. How many points off the top 4 are we? How many games are there to go?

Give it up Neil, this isn't a tabloid newspaper.
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just taking into account the entire season and our away form compared to our rivals.
 
Maxi missed two easy chances. Terrible...

I would happily trade Koncheski for Jose Enrique at Newcastle. a bag of chips.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225103#msg1225103 date=1290967456]
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=42955.msg1225091#msg1225091 date=1290967340]
spurs are far better than us [/quote]

I don't think that's true to be honest, if we were clinical the game would have been over first half. maxi's miss for instance was fucking CRIMINAL.
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You do have a point there Neil, but 'loser' teams miss chances and lose games and we've lost our winning mentality, at least away from home.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225103#msg1225103 date=1290967456]
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=42955.msg1225091#msg1225091 date=1290967340]
spurs are far better than us [/quote]

I don't think that's true to be honest, if we were clinical the game would have been over first half. maxi's miss for instance was fucking CRIMINAL.
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it was. the worst case of bottling a chance i've seen for a long time.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225099#msg1225099 date=1290967435]
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
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Feels weird defending Hodgson, but you're talking shite JJ. We played well today: we were positive, we went for the victory. I don't even agree that we sat back in the second half. Spurs pressed us, but we were always looking for the counter. We deserved at least a point from the game, and it was a cruel defeat. But that's our best away performance of the season by a long way, despite the fact that Gerrard was injured and Torres off form. To see that as the last straw for a manager who has already overseen home defeats to Northampton and Blackpool is just fucking ridiculous IMO.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42955.msg1225121#msg1225121 date=1290967673]
As I said, second half we did ask for it, and Lucas was a passenger. Konchesky was asleep for the goal
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It's getting embarrassing now Brendan. Lucas had a good game.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42955.msg1224985#msg1224985 date=1290965409]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=42955.msg1224977#msg1224977 date=1290965225]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42955.msg1224974#msg1224974 date=1290965093]
Good little period for us now.

Roll on goal no. 2.
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Nice one.

You really love tempting fate
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We'll win.
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You really shouldn't do this
 
Obviously we're not out of a top 4 place. Will we get it? I doubt it. But to say it's over is sensationalist, fickle, reactionary bullshit.
 
Maxi is a spineless jersey filler and has been since he joined us, I hate him more than lucas, who although shite is actaully trying where as Maxi just doesnt bother, thats not to excuse our front 2 who were lets face it appalling in the case of Ngog and disinterested in the case of Torres.

On the plus side I have to say Mereiles is a proper midfielder, him and Stevie in the middle of the park will take some beating.
 
good performance today, neat interchances, positive play, clear cut chances, utter profligacy in front of goal. so do you blame the roy or the players who should have put the game beyond spurs first half?
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=42955.msg1225122#msg1225122 date=1290967677]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225099#msg1225099 date=1290967435]
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
[/quote]

Feels weird defending Hodgson, but you're talking shite JJ. We played well today: we were positive, we went for the victory. I don't even agree that we sat back in the second half. Spurs pressed us, but we were always looking for the counter. We deserved at least a point from the game, and it was a cruel defeat. But that's our best away performance of the season by a long way, despite the fact that Gerrard was injured and Torres off form. To see that as the last straw for a manager who has already overseen home defeats to Northampton and Blackpool is just fucking ridiculous IMO.

[/quote]

Utter piffle. Spurs pressed us in the first half too, and we still won the half. In the second we were trying to play from further back. Spurs alone weren't responsible for that. And WTF difference does it supposedly make that we've already lost to worse teams?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42955.msg1225137#msg1225137 date=1290967830]
Obviously we're not out of a top 4 place. Will we get it? I doubt it. But to say it's over is sensationalist, fickle, reactionary bullshit.
[/quote]

it's not reactionary.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225146#msg1225146 date=1290967991]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=42955.msg1225122#msg1225122 date=1290967677]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225099#msg1225099 date=1290967435]
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
[/quote]

Feels weird defending Hodgson, but you're talking shite JJ. We played well today: we were positive, we went for the victory. I don't even agree that we sat back in the second half. Spurs pressed us, but we were always looking for the counter. We deserved at least a point from the game, and it was a cruel defeat. But that's our best away performance of the season by a long way, despite the fact that Gerrard was injured and Torres off form. To see that as the last straw for a manager who has already overseen home defeats to Northampton and Blackpool is just fucking ridiculous IMO.

[/quote]

Utter piffle. Spurs pressed us in the first half too, and we still won the half. In the second we were trying to play from further back. Spurs alone weren't responsible for that. And WTF difference does it supposedly make that we've already lost to worse teams?
[/quote]

JJ - Is it fair to say that we should have been 3-0 up 5 minutes into the 2nd half?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42955.msg1225135#msg1225135 date=1290967784]
What did he do?
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He made a lot of good tackles and put Torres through with a nice first time pass.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225153#msg1225153 date=1290968047]
note to roy; aurelio is fit again so fuck off konchesky to the bench as he is a liability.
[/quote]

Exactly, I thought Aurelio looked impressive in his cameo again while Konchesky might be even worse than Insua
 
[quote author=jan link=topic=42955.msg1225172#msg1225172 date=1290968289]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225153#msg1225153 date=1290968047]
note to roy; aurelio is fit again so fuck off konchesky to the bench as he is a liability.
[/quote]

Exactly, I thought Aurelio looked impressive in his cameo again while Konchesky might be even worse than Insua
[/quote]

might?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225146#msg1225146 date=1290967991]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=42955.msg1225122#msg1225122 date=1290967677]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225099#msg1225099 date=1290967435]
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
[/quote]

Feels weird defending Hodgson, but you're talking shite JJ. We played well today: we were positive, we went for the victory. I don't even agree that we sat back in the second half. Spurs pressed us, but we were always looking for the counter. We deserved at least a point from the game, and it was a cruel defeat. But that's our best away performance of the season by a long way, despite the fact that Gerrard was injured and Torres off form. To see that as the last straw for a manager who has already overseen home defeats to Northampton and Blackpool is just fucking ridiculous IMO.

[/quote]

Utter piffle. Spurs pressed us in the first half too, and we still won the half. In the second we were trying to play from further back. Spurs alone weren't responsible for that. And WTF difference does it supposedly make that we've already lost to worse teams?
[/quote]

Spurs really didn't press us in the first half: they let us play. They were at home, and they've got a better team than we have.

I really don't believe that Hodgson told the players to defend deep in the second half. At least, that's not how it looked to me. Against Stoke in the first half, Chelsea in the second, yes - that looked like a deliberate tactic. I don't think it was today. Our set-up and our attitude was good.

And the relevance of my last point was the likely timing of a sacking. The owners are not going to see a good performance and unlucky defeat away to Tottenham as the result that seals Hodgson's fate. If they haven't sacked him after some of our dismal performances and results so far this season, they're certainly not going to after that one.
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42955.msg1225159#msg1225159 date=1290968147]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42955.msg1225137#msg1225137 date=1290967830]
Obviously we're not out of a top 4 place. Will we get it? I doubt it. But to say it's over is sensationalist, fickle, reactionary bullshit.
[/quote]


it's not reactionary.
[/quote]

two away wins all season. to say we are still in with a shout of CL football next season assumes our away from will pick up and what evidence is there that it will? reactionary? hmmm, I don't think it is to be honest.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=42955.msg1225176#msg1225176 date=1290968401]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225146#msg1225146 date=1290967991]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=42955.msg1225122#msg1225122 date=1290967677]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42955.msg1225099#msg1225099 date=1290967435]
Roy's getting far too easy a ride from too many here. Who went halfway to conceding the game in his pre-match comments? Who prepares the players who missed those chances? Who told them to sit deep in the second half and surrender the momentum back to Tottenham? The buck stops with Roy, and rightly so. He has to go, HAS to.
[/quote]

Feels weird defending Hodgson, but you're talking shite JJ. We played well today: we were positive, we went for the victory. I don't even agree that we sat back in the second half. Spurs pressed us, but we were always looking for the counter. We deserved at least a point from the game, and it was a cruel defeat. But that's our best away performance of the season by a long way, despite the fact that Gerrard was injured and Torres off form. To see that as the last straw for a manager who has already overseen home defeats to Northampton and Blackpool is just fucking ridiculous IMO.

[/quote]

Utter piffle. Spurs pressed us in the first half too, and we still won the half. In the second we were trying to play from further back. Spurs alone weren't responsible for that. And WTF difference does it supposedly make that we've already lost to worse teams?
[/quote]

Spurs really didn't press us in the first half: they let us play. They were at home, and they've got a better team than we have.

I really don't believe that Hodgson told the players to defend deep in the second half. At least, that's not how it looked to me. Against Stoke in the first half, Chelsea in the second, yes - that looked like a deliberate tactic. I don't think it was today. Our set-up and our attitude was good.

And the relevance of my last point was the likely timing of a sacking. The owners are not going to see a good performance and unlucky defeat away to Tottenham as the result that seals Hodgson's fate. If they haven't sacked him after some of our dismal performances and results so far this season, they're certainly not going to after that one.
[/quote]

I'm as anti-Hodgson as they come, but I would have to agree with this tonight.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=42955.msg1225175#msg1225175 date=1290968370]
[quote author=jan link=topic=42955.msg1225172#msg1225172 date=1290968289]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42955.msg1225153#msg1225153 date=1290968047]
note to roy; aurelio is fit again so fuck off konchesky to the bench as he is a liability.
[/quote]

Exactly, I thought Aurelio looked impressive in his cameo again while Konchesky might be even worse than Insua
[/quote]

might?
[/quote]
Well Konchesky certainly is a disaster but let's not forget how fucking shit Insua was as well
 
Yeah I still think Insua was worse.

Anyway on a lighter note Meireles looks like an excellent signing
 
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