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Who was the last youth player to be sold for millions? I can only remember Danny Guthrie for £2.5million. It was indeed quite frustrating how we seemed to be giving young players away - the likes of Adam Hammill, Paul Anderson, Jack Hobbs etc. who were all decent enough for Championship clubs. Blackburn made a profit selling Warnock for £8m from Aston Villa, 2 years after signing him from us for £1.5m. We didn't seem to bother about long term remuneration, such as sell on clauses. Even the lost of Danny Wilson on a free transfer is pretty shocking. I mean, the lad's still very young and even though we probably didn't pay the add on fees, he still cost decent money. Hopefully, the Ince and Shelvey deals is the start of more conscious dealings by the club and management.
 
The funny thing is, Macca is up in arms about us selling Spearing for £1.75m, yet always defends our letting Tom Ince, a genuinely talented young player, go for a couple of hundred thousand because he had a bad attitude. Maybe the club needs every penny only so long as it's not Kenny Dalglish ballsing everything up.
 
Binny said:
Who was the last youth player to be sold for millions? I can only remember Danny Guthrie for £2.5million. It was indeed quite frustrating how we seemed to be giving young players away - the likes of Adam Hammill, Paul Anderson, Jack Hobbs etc. who were all decent enough for Championship clubs. Blackburn made a profit selling Warnock for £8m from Aston Villa, 2 years after signing him from us for £1.5m. We didn't seem to bother about long term remuneration, such as sell on clauses. Even the lost of Danny Wilson on a free transfer is pretty shocking. I mean, the lad's still very young and even though we probably didn't pay the add on fees, he still cost decent money. Hopefully, the Ince and Shelvey deals is the start of more conscious dealings by the club and management.
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Who was the last youth player sold that made a name for themselves in the Premiership after being released by Liverpool?
 
RolandG said:
Who was the last youth player sold that made a name for themselves in the Premiership after being released by Liverpool?
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That's why I mentioned "who were all decent enough for Championship clubs". The point is not about letting players go but rather the timing and the amount.
 
Binny said:
James Nursey ‏@JamesNursey
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a few clubs in for #LFC Jay Spearing but the lad doesn't want to drop into Championship & will hold out for a new Premier League club
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Andrew Cryer ‏@andrew_cryer
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Interestingly, spoken to Spearing's people and they say they have had "absolutely no contact at all" from Blackburn Rovers.

Andrew Cryer ‏@andrew_cryer 18m
Player would prefer to stay in the Premier League anyway but if Rovers do come up with fee then it becomes an issue I guess
 
So he hasn't even moved yet? Yet people are up in arms again over nothing. He's got a year left on his deal so I doubt he'll go for mega bucks, and we've just sold Shelvey for a relatively good fee, so it's not all "the owners and Ian Ayre are dumb fucks just because", after all - unless you're in the lizard resistance who want to kick up a fuss about every AWOL rodent in the vicinity.
 
gkmacca said:
No, receiving a good fee is on top good business. You don't put him in a basket and leave him on a doorstep.
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To be fair, Spearing is the one player who wouldn't look out place in a basket on a doorstep.
 
Spearing will be sold. where he goes I suppose is up to him. I would think that there would be a few lower level Premiership sides that he could do a job for. its not like the lad hasn't any ability.
 
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/10534176._/?

WANDERERS are running out of time to enter the race to sign Jay Spearing.

Lancashire rivals Blackburn Rovers have agreed a £1.75million fee for the Liverpool midfielder, who spent last season on loan at the Reebok.

The Ewood Park club are currently trying to raise the cash to fund the deal – which is likely to happen in the next few days with exits expected for striker Mauro Formica and defender Martin Olsson.

But while Wanderers fans are desperate to see the Anfield academy graduate back at the club, it looks highly unlikely Freedman will be handed enough cash to match the asking price – news that is likely to sting should the player end up wearing blue and white halves next term.

Spearing ideally wants to remain in the Premier League but sources close to the 24-year-old believe he would pick Wanderers above anyone else in the Championship were they to match Rovers’ bid.

Freedman, who is in Spain with his squad, has reserved most of his free cash for improving his attacking options and has been hinting for the last fortnight a winger and a striker would be the next positions on his list.

Spearing’s apparent availability may now affect his thinking – and few signings would be better received on the Reebok terraces than the Scouse terrier, who was arguably the club’s most consistent player last season.
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Bolton gaffer Dougie Freedman's Q&A session on twitter now:

LittleBigJolAndwot® ‏@Jolspeed 36m
@OfficialBWFC #AskDougie how come we didn't snap up Jay Spearing after his successful loan last season?

Official BWFC ‏@OfficialBWFC 25m
DF: "This is one problem with loans. You work with them, they go back better with an increased value. We have nothing to show at the end."
DF: "Jay Spearing did wonderfully well for our club and of course I like him as a player and person."
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Bravo Inns ‏@BravoInns 33m
@OfficialBWFC Dougie is the signing of Jay Spearing a realistic proposition for BWFC

Official BWFC ‏@OfficialBWFC 1m
DF: "We spoke to Liverpool and their valuation was too high. Please do not believe the price that some journalist makes up."
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And an interesting question and answer (not related to Spearing)

Stu ‏@horwich__ 24m
@OfficialBWFC Have we still got the option of a chelsea player on loan from the cahill deal? #Askdougie

Official BWFC ‏@OfficialBWFC 9m
DF: "I believe that is the case, but we have not got an option on which player. We're back at improving other team's players again."
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It's not a "problem" with loans - the player goes to your club and develops in the meantime: he helps fill a need in your team and you help develop him - it's a win win.. The only problem is that your club doesn't have the money or isn't willing to pay the valuation to buy him, you dope.
 
It is a problem with loans really. We were never going to actually play spearing this year unless he was phenomenal at lower level, we loaned him out to out him in the shop windows.

Sadly for Bolton, jay did well and now his fee has inflated because of it.

They've developed him, and got no long term gain.
 
In the case of jay, I'm surprised we didn't agree a fee in advance.

He's allowed to loan if he wants
 
Fabio said:
It is a problem with loans really. We were never going to actually play spearing this year unless he was phenomenal at lower level, we loaned him out to out him in the shop windows.

Sadly for Bolton, jay did well and now his fee has inflated because of it.

They've developed him, and got no long term gain.
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Yeah but they got the benefit of getting to see him day in day out before deciding whether to sign him.

Swings and roundabouts.
 
Some clubs don't deserve any help. Remember when we loaned Mellor to West Ham? The other forwards resented him and blatantly snubbed him, the manager at the time let it go on and the player came back with far less confidence then he had before!
 
Never understand that attitude. Then again I'm not an egotistical bellend like a majority of footballers
 
It's a shame about Mellor, in another place & time, without injury, he could have been immense.
 
Nah, Mellor was never going to be good enough at the top level. He was a lower league player.

As for feeling sorry for Bolton, they got the benefit of having a player they probably couldn't have afforded for a year. That's the whole point of loaning a player!
 
Tony Silva has been let go by Barnsley after just one appearance all season. Now I think we all had criticisms of Silva, most notably his Dudley Moore-style one-leggedness, but he was fast and tricky and unpredictable and if Barnsley's squad was really so good to make him surplus to requirements they must have seriously under-performed.
 
He makes it sound like we're getting a higher fee than the 1.5-1.75M that is being quoted by most sources.
 
By all account Jay Spearing was their outstanding player for the season. That says he performed regularly and consistently. His contribution to them alone is worth more than the valuation. Under 2M for the lad is almost a free.

Bolton must put up, shut up or move on. There'll be other offers for Spearing.
 
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10541027._/?
Olsson’s exit comes after the Swede made it clear that he wanted to return to the Premier League.

The funds from the sale could now potentially be used to press ahead with a deal for Liverpool midfielder Jay Spearing, although Rovers could also look for a left back as a replacement for Olsson.

Rovers want to sign Spearing but talks with Liverpool have so far only been on an informal basis.
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