Sooooooooo... Stoke.
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and i think Mascherano is better than the deceased, unless theres some zombie shit going on.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
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Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
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Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
Why?
In terms of physical challenges, its fair to say Stoke won't be fucking easy.
In terms of skill and ability we should fucking hammer them.
In terms of physical challenges, its fair to say Stoke won't be fucking easy.
In terms of skill and ability we should fucking hammer them.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35283.msg926728#msg926728 date=1250536256]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35283.msg926637#msg926637 date=1250525370]
The Stoke match isn't going to be easy
Torres will have to toughen up for this one.
[/quote]Fucking behave yourself Squig. If were worried about Stoke AT HOME, then we really are lost.
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Stoke etc AT HOME is precisely where we lost the league last season.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35283.msg926637#msg926637 date=1250525370]
The Stoke match isn't going to be easy
Torres will have to toughen up for this one.
[/quote]Fucking behave yourself Squig. If were worried about Stoke AT HOME, then we really are lost.
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Stoke etc AT HOME is precisely where we lost the league last season.
Probably because of his mincing around yesterday. Annoying.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35283.msg926733#msg926733 date=1250536989]
Why does torres need to toughen up though? He has proven he can handle the worst this league has to offer and then some.
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He took a battering against Reading in his first season for example so he has shown he can take a good kicking. Against Spurs he seemed lethargic and frustrated. Hopefully he'll bang in a goal Wednesday and let the flood gates open.
Why does torres need to toughen up though? He has proven he can handle the worst this league has to offer and then some.
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He took a battering against Reading in his first season for example so he has shown he can take a good kicking. Against Spurs he seemed lethargic and frustrated. Hopefully he'll bang in a goal Wednesday and let the flood gates open.
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
Not sure Skrtel and Agger will be as good a combination as Carra and either of the other two. His experience would be a big miss.
That said, it's true about his patchy form, and I'd expect him to be rested more often this season anyway, so Skrtel and Agger are going to need games together.
That said, it's true about his patchy form, and I'd expect him to be rested more often this season anyway, so Skrtel and Agger are going to need games together.
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926746#msg926746 date=1250538135]
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
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Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
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Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=35283.msg926753#msg926753 date=1250539161]
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926746#msg926746 date=1250538135]
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
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Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
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See bold. Didnt mention any youth players.
Under no circumstances? what about circumstances where he is playing rather poorly. Skrtl and Agger might well be a better option at the moment.
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926746#msg926746 date=1250538135]
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
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Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
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See bold. Didnt mention any youth players.
Under no circumstances? what about circumstances where he is playing rather poorly. Skrtl and Agger might well be a better option at the moment.
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35283.msg926755#msg926755 date=1250539670]
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
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He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
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He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
carra was hoof ball panic mode poor against spurs. if carra carries on like this i'd rather see a partnership of skertel and agger. or at the very least agger and carra, at least then one of em can pass the ball.
these 4141, 41221 formations are interesting. all made up to accommodate lucas as we all know rafa will be stubborn and continue to play him instead of dropping gerrard into the middle and playing yossi behind torres.
these 4141, 41221 formations are interesting. all made up to accommodate lucas as we all know rafa will be stubborn and continue to play him instead of dropping gerrard into the middle and playing yossi behind torres.
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926757#msg926757 date=1250539944]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35283.msg926755#msg926755 date=1250539670]
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
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He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
[/quote]Apart from EVERY International window, EVERY carling cup game, and EVERY summer for the last 4 years. I'd warrant he gets more rest than most.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35283.msg926755#msg926755 date=1250539670]
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
[/quote]
He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
[/quote]Apart from EVERY International window, EVERY carling cup game, and EVERY summer for the last 4 years. I'd warrant he gets more rest than most.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35283.msg926759#msg926759 date=1250540312]
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926757#msg926757 date=1250539944]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35283.msg926755#msg926755 date=1250539670]
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
[/quote]
He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
[/quote]Apart from EVERY International window, EVERY carling cup game, and EVERY summer for the last 4 years. I'd warrant he gets more rest than most.
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He has played in pretty much every Premier League and Champions league game over the last 4 years then that will take it's toll, especially now that he is 31/32. Bottom line is he has been distinctively below his best for the last 6 months.
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926757#msg926757 date=1250539944]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35283.msg926755#msg926755 date=1250539670]
I've expressed my concerns over carras legs before and am usually ridiculed. I hope he gets back on too form, but I remain dubious.
[/quote]
He's played without a decent rest for an age now and has, rightly so, been un-droppable, but I do think the last 6 months have been his worse for 5 years - maybe taking his place for granted? Anyhow, I'd be happy with Agger and Skrtl against some of the poorer teams in the league.
[/quote]Apart from EVERY International window, EVERY carling cup game, and EVERY summer for the last 4 years. I'd warrant he gets more rest than most.
[/quote]
He has played in pretty much every Premier League and Champions league game over the last 4 years then that will take it's toll, especially now that he is 31/32. Bottom line is he has been distinctively below his best for the last 6 months.
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He just looked completely disheartened against Spurs, and his attitude wasn't the best.
Physically I know he can handle it, but being a lone striker's a lonely place and Ryan's right: there are games where he loses interest when things aren't going his way.
Physically I know he can handle it, but being a lone striker's a lonely place and Ryan's right: there are games where he loses interest when things aren't going his way.
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926754#msg926754 date=1250539519]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=35283.msg926753#msg926753 date=1250539161]
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926746#msg926746 date=1250538135]
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
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Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
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See bold. Didnt mention any youth players.
Under no circumstances? what about circumstances where he is playing rather poorly. Skrtl and Agger might well be a better option at the moment.
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Once Agger/Srktel come back to full fitness they can partner Carragher and settle down into their stride. Carragher played with Ayala for a period of time yesterday, that was why I said he doesn't need to be carrying a youth player when he is lethargic himself.
I am concerned about Carragher seeming jaded and lethargic but he doesn't warrant dropping.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=35283.msg926753#msg926753 date=1250539161]
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35283.msg926746#msg926746 date=1250538135]
There is allot of talk about our forward line but if and when Agger is back I think there is a decent case for dropping Carragher - I know that is probably sacrilegious for most here but he has been poor for a while. Well maybe poor is a little harsh but very inconsistent anyhow for the last 6 months or so.
[/quote]
Don't be ridiculous. Under now circumstances should Carragher be dropped in the league. He can rested come Carling cup. We need Agger and Skrtel both fit and Helping Carragher. He can't be carrying a youth player at the moment.
[/quote]
See bold. Didnt mention any youth players.
Under no circumstances? what about circumstances where he is playing rather poorly. Skrtl and Agger might well be a better option at the moment.
[/quote]
Once Agger/Srktel come back to full fitness they can partner Carragher and settle down into their stride. Carragher played with Ayala for a period of time yesterday, that was why I said he doesn't need to be carrying a youth player when he is lethargic himself.
I am concerned about Carragher seeming jaded and lethargic but he doesn't warrant dropping.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35283.msg926718#msg926718 date=1250531827]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926771#msg926771 date=1250544562]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35283.msg926718#msg926718 date=1250531827]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[/quote]
Wow did you see him at all last season. True, he might be lacking a bit finesse, but he more than makes up for it in stuff like goals(12), assists(9), incredible workrate and great defensive work.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35283.msg926718#msg926718 date=1250531827]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[/quote]
Wow did you see him at all last season. True, he might be lacking a bit finesse, but he more than makes up for it in stuff like goals(12), assists(9), incredible workrate and great defensive work.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926771#msg926771 date=1250544562]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35283.msg926718#msg926718 date=1250531827]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[/quote]
Such smarmy arsery.
Kuyt is one fucking million times better than Babel, which is why he'll play more often, score more often, and do more more often than him this season, just like every other fucking season. Stick your Babel = total football up your manx arse.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35283.msg926718#msg926718 date=1250531827]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926666#msg926666 date=1250527191]
--------------Torres
--Babel----------------Benayoun
-----Lucas----------Gerrard
---------Mascherano
Insua Carragher Skrtel Johnson
--------------Reina
I know Babel isn't often much use, but Kuyt is always clumsy and slow.
[/quote]
Kuyt is about 20 times better than Babel.
[/quote]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
[/quote]
Such smarmy arsery.
Kuyt is one fucking million times better than Babel, which is why he'll play more often, score more often, and do more more often than him this season, just like every other fucking season. Stick your Babel = total football up your manx arse.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=35283.msg926771#msg926771 date=1250544562]
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
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Where does this no skill thing come from for Kuyt? He's played some of the sexiest little passes of any Liverpool player recently.
He's too slow and obvious has no skill at all.
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Where does this no skill thing come from for Kuyt? He's played some of the sexiest little passes of any Liverpool player recently.
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