My concern is he aliented all the big players after a team meeting when players were asked to air thier views and AVB didnt like what he was hearing
So who do we want/expect/hope?
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My concern is he aliented all the big players after a team meeting when players were asked to air thier views and AVB didnt like what he was hearing
People think Matteo was a hero. In the cups yes, but not in the league. And Andre had to deal with some stubborn bellends who didn't want to change system
c'mon, if pep expressed an interest he'd get the job there and then.
If De Boer doesn't want it, Lambert would be my choice, too. He's got a recent track record of success (albeit at lowly Norwich), he's young, he's ambitious, and he's a real student of the game. His star is definitely on the rise. I mean, just have a look at Norwich City's squad and then ask yourself how the fuck they stayed in the division. It's quite staggering, really. It always worries me slightly when managers who have never had a penny to spend suddenly get a pile of cash, but he seems like an astute man, so I'd like to think he wouldn't spend a fortune on bringing Grant Holt and Anthony Pilkington to Anfield.
completely agree, that's why chelsea hasn't tainted my view of AVB, also evans says AVB is an arsehole, well which successful manager isn't?
"SO lads we're doing well, playing well and scoring goals...sorry nando.....but what would you like to change about us?"
Lampard: "I'm not playing as the driving force behind the game, that seems to be mata, or sturridge or one of the other lads. ANy chance we could make it so i get my ususal 20 goals a season?"
Andre: "You're joking....right?"
Cole: "I agree with Frank. Hes not dedicating enough to Pat. It's only his dedications that keep her in heaven! Thats why he has to take all the pens and score the goals. You've got mata on the pens now and its going to make her go to hell!"
Andre: ".......what?"
Cole " Least thats what frank said"
Lampard: "Its true gaff, my mam needs them to stay up there."
Andre: ".......the fuck?"
Di Matteo "cups" included the the champions league, are you seriously comparing that to the Rumbelows cup?
That's management for you. Some of our players need rockets up their arses never mind the alienation
my worry with appointing a manager whose only remit is to keep their team in the league is at a big club you are expected to win every game (where as for a lower team a draw is a good result), when you dont win the media try to rip you apart. teams also park the bus and make it difficult for you to break down a stark contrast to how they line up against a lower team. martinez, lambert, rodgers anyone of that is an absolute massive gamble.
Sorry Fabs but this misses the point royally. The whole crux of the job Villas Boas was employed to do there was to deal with those tw@ts. He knew it, he prepared for it, and he went down in flames. The man is just not ready (yet - he may well be one day, but NOT yet) for a job at this level and I am very, very apprehensive indeed of the consequences if we do go down that road.
Frankly, if I were a Chelsea player and had some textbook-only (he never played professionally) 34 year old 'protege' of Mourinho with one season of success under his belt with a team that could probably win their own league without a manager, telling me what to do at half time in a game we are losing, I'd probably be massively tempted to ask "What the fuck do you know about winning a game like this?" (let's call it Stoke away on a wet Wednesday night).
I don't think AVB is the man for us. He's too young and inexperienced and I don't want someone learning on the job as we are in enough of a mess as it is. For that reason, if we have to gamble, I'd rather it be on Martinez, simply because he's proved he can prepare a budget team to beat anyone the PL in games that matter to both sides.
Are you seriously suggesting you can win a cup you dont enter ? Really ?
Anyway dont wanna go round in circles, look forward to August 31st when silly season is over with
Do you think, if we asked nicely that Kenny would come back?
Seriously, not one of those candidates has me excited, curious or expectant.
I need a plan to buy into and that isn't forthcoming. Other than some business speak bollix from Ayre we appear to be flapping around, rudderless. Silent owners, media setting the agenda, a list of potential candidates and constant denials. It is blow after blow to our diminishing prestige and no mistake.
I want to know the stadium has been signed off, we can compete in the transfer market and we have recruited the best management team.
Are these owners serious or have they discovered they've bitten off more than they can chew?
Seriously, not one of those candidates has me excited, curious or expectant.
I need a plan to buy into and that isn't forthcoming. Other than some business speak bollix from Ayre we appear to be flapping around, rudderless. Silent owners, media setting the agenda, a list of potential candidates and constant denials. It is blow after blow to our diminishing prestige and no mistake.
I want to know the stadium has been signed off, we can compete in the transfer market and we have recruited the best management team.
Are these owners serious or have they discovered they've bitten off more than they can chew?
Only 2 permanent managers have managed to get the best out of that chelsea squad. Jose and Ancelotti. Di matteo i think is like our first 6 months under kenny.
I still think Andre took the job thinking "I know these lads and they were sound with me 5 years ago, this should be a piece of portuguese cake". Terry, Lampard, Cole, Drogba etc all thought "Great, it's that analyst. The fuck does he think he is"
Andre went in oblivious and didn't expect the resistance he got. I don't think we'd have similar levels of resistance. You can't judge a manager based on 6 months. I still think if chelsea had persisted with him they would have been the dominant team in europe within 5 years. Now they've got short term success possibly at the expense of long term gain.
I'm not going round in circles. Kenny got us to the final of every cup competition we entered last season. The league season was shite I agree. But the cups weren't enough for you but in the same breath you're extoling the virtues of a a manager who did worse in the league than his predecessor but did well in the cups which smacks of hypocrisy. You wanted Kenny out, like others, and I suggested another year would have been the pragmatic way forward. Anyway, what's done is done. I've said be careful what you wish for and we'll get who we get now but I'm going to be like a demented monkey on the back of those who wanted Kenny out if the new guy turns out worse.
that is 100% how I see it.
AVB would be a massive gamble. Whoever we go with is a massive gamble. We threw the dice when we sacked Kenny. Now it's about making an informed decision based on the information available. Lambert is a fascinating man with an excellent knowledge base, and the kind of person who would relish a long-term project like Liverpool. He also seems very ambitious - he said in an interview that he believed Norwich could win any game they participated in. If he brings that same positivity to a bigger club, with better players, it should stand him in good stead.
Like I said to another of those blerts, last week..."cry about it".
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Another manager approached by LFC: Frank de Boer (@frankronald1970). He said no but this is the calibre FSG is looking for. FSG might insist
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Rafa Benitez has not been approached by Liverpool and I believe there is no plan to do it for now
=Biased FSG/FSG advisers as predicted.
Another manager approached by LFC: Frank de Boer (@frankronald1970). He said no but this is the calibre FSG is looking for. FSG might insist
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Rafa Benitez has not been approached by Liverpool and I believe there is no plan to do it for now
=Biased FSG/FSG advisers as predicted.
It may be how you remember it Neil but that's not how it was. In fact, just like now, there were posters all over KT slamming Parry and Moore for not having it worked out; what were they doing? If I remember rightly Parry was actually on holiday in bloody Hawai while we were all stuck on KT slamming the process and clutching at every rumour that hit the papers.
I don't remember the exact time frame but the fans were pretty much in melt down over who was coming in and particularly over the fact that Parry was off on his hols without a manager in place.
I might be quiffing.
I hardly see sunny attack anyone.
Someone established it was three weeks before Rafa was appointed.
there was a 3 week gap. surprising, it certainly didn't feel like it. following the same time frame we wont announce a new manager for 2 weeks.
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