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*For Doc Mac*

Ulster have signed Xavier Rush.
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Fantastic player- but we've got a terrific number 8 in Chris Henry coming through, so I hope he continues to be developed.
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It's on a two year contract Doc, plus with so much rugby being played i can't see it hindering him that much.

Rush has been superb at Cardiff, hopefully he does as well for your boys.
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Yeah, I think it could be a huge signing for us- and Henry could learn a lot from Rush, in fairness. As you say, there is plenty of Rugby to go around anyway. I hear Cardiff did everything they could to keep him, but Rush fancies living in Belfast and becoming an adopted Ulsterman, so that was it.
 
Wales had virtually no possesion in the first 25 mins or so, yet had Hook put his boots on the right feet they could (and should) have had 9 points on the board before yellow card. Those 10 minutes changed the game, but even then with 10 minutes to play there was only one team in it. A lucky interception won the game for England.

BUT. Wales for all their glimpses of quality were by and large shyte on the day and as someone else said, handed the game on a plate to England. England in turn tried to hand it back and I for one don't see them picking up the trophy this year.
 
That ref is shocking, he really shouldnt ne allowed to ref england games anymore.

I cant recall who it was jumping with no intention of catching the high ball, but leaving a knee in to Wilko's face. His response was 'i saw it, dont do it again', not 'that was malicious and you're off'. On the other hand, it wasnt a knock on, and if he had grounded it, should have been a fair try to Wales.

Still, they did try and give the game back to wales. Ball was slow, possession was kicked away with disregard in the usual ping pong boring pointless style, Wilko was to deep, people still cant bind properly even when they know the Ref is standing there watching. Borthwicks tackle was also fair.

Hopefully Flutey being back will force Wilkinson to play flatter and to run ball. Otherwise Frances defence will smother England.

Anyone else thing the Twickers pitch was the worst they've ever seen it?
 
Rolland also gave a few dodgy calls against us in the last World Cup Final.

Mind you, what else can one expect from an Irishman of French extraction on a rugby field? 😉
 
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Rolland also gave a few dodgy calls against us in the last World Cup Final.

Mind you, what else can one expect from an Irishman of French extraction on a rugby field? 😉
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I don't rate Rolland either. He gets a hell of a lot of calls wrong. Many of them do though.
 
Ireland Team to play France: 15-Rob Kearney, 14-Tommy Bowe, 13-Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12-Gordon D'Arcy, 11-Keith Earls, 10-Ronan O'Gara, 9-Tomas O'Leary; 8-Jamie Heaslip, 7-David Wallace, 6-To be confirmed, 5-Paul O'Connell, 4-Leo Cullen, 3-John Hayes, 2-Jerry Flannery, 1-Cian Healy.

Ferris will start at 6 if he's fit and thankfully he is being given as much time as possible. I think the back row is probably going to make or break this game for us (like most games really) so his inclusion would be a big boost to the team. I didn't see France play last week, but I'm guessing the selection of Jauzion and Bastareaud in the centres is a fairly strong hint as to how they'll play. D'Arcy and O'Driscoll are both capable defenders but they not only have to stop these two they'll need to smother them to stop any potential offloads because if the French get in behind us at all it'll be a long afternoon. I'm predicting we'll kick for territory quite a bit this weekend.



French Team: C Poitrenaud; V Clerc (both Toulouse), M Bastareaud (Stade Français), Y Jauzion (Toulouse), A Palisson (Brive); F Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), M Parra; T Domingo (both Clermont), W Servat (Toulouse), N Mas (Perpignan), L Nallet (Racing Métro), P Pape (Stade Français), T Dusautoir (Toulouse, capt), F Ouedraogo (Montpellier), I Harinordoquy (Biarritz).
 
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Ireland Team to play France: 15-Rob Kearney, 14-Tommy Bowe, 13-Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12-Gordon D'Arcy, 11-Keith Earls, 10-Ronan O'Gara, 9-Tomas O'Leary; 8-Jamie Heaslip, 7-David Wallace, 6-To be confirmed, 5-Paul O'Connell, 4-Leo Cullen, 3-John Hayes, 2-Jerry Flannery, 1-Cian Healy.

Ferris will start at 6 if he's fit and thankfully he is being given as much time as possible. I think the back row is probably going to make or break this game for us (like most games really) so his inclusion would be a big boost to the team. I didn't see France play last week, but I'm guessing the selection of Jauzion and Bastareaud in the centres is a fairly strong hint as to how they'll play. D'Arcy and O'Driscoll are both capable defenders but they not only have to stop these two they'll need to smother them to stop any potential offloads because if the French get in behind us at all it'll be a long afternoon. I'm predicting we'll kick for territory quite a bit this weekend.



French Team: C Poitrenaud; V Clerc (both Toulouse), M Bastareaud (Stade Français), Y Jauzion (Toulouse), A Palisson (Brive); F Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), M Parra; T Domingo (both Clermont), W Servat (Toulouse), N Mas (Perpignan), L Nallet (Racing Métro), P Pape (Stade Français), T Dusautoir (Toulouse, capt), F Ouedraogo (Montpellier), I Harinordoquy (Biarritz).
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Fucking O' Leary.

And O'Gara. I think Kidney is picking much too conservatively.
 
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Looking forward to this game, should be one of the best this championship.

Which KO is it?
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Saturday, 13 February 2010

RBS Six Nations
France v Ireland, 16:30
Wales v Scotland, 14:00

Sunday, 14 February 2010

RBS Six Nations
Italy v England, 14:30

*All times GMT
 
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Ireland Team to play France: 15-Rob Kearney, 14-Tommy Bowe, 13-Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12-Gordon D'Arcy, 11-Keith Earls, 10-Ronan O'Gara, 9-Tomas O'Leary; 8-Jamie Heaslip, 7-David Wallace, 6-To be confirmed, 5-Paul O'Connell, 4-Leo Cullen, 3-John Hayes, 2-Jerry Flannery, 1-Cian Healy.

Ferris will start at 6 if he's fit and thankfully he is being given as much time as possible. I think the back row is probably going to make or break this game for us (like most games really) so his inclusion would be a big boost to the team. I didn't see France play last week, but I'm guessing the selection of Jauzion and Bastareaud in the centres is a fairly strong hint as to how they'll play. D'Arcy and O'Driscoll are both capable defenders but they not only have to stop these two they'll need to smother them to stop any potential offloads because if the French get in behind us at all it'll be a long afternoon. I'm predicting we'll kick for territory quite a bit this weekend.



French Team: C Poitrenaud; V Clerc (both Toulouse), M Bastareaud (Stade Français), Y Jauzion (Toulouse), A Palisson (Brive); F Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), M Parra; T Domingo (both Clermont), W Servat (Toulouse), N Mas (Perpignan), L Nallet (Racing Métro), P Pape (Stade Français), T Dusautoir (Toulouse, capt), F Ouedraogo (Montpellier), I Harinordoquy (Biarritz).
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Fucking O' Leary.

And O'Gara. I think Kidney is picking much too conservatively.
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I used to think Stringer was Kidney's blind spot, but he's been replaced by O'Leary. I wouldn't have picked him.

Re: O'Gara though, I think there's an argument in his favour this week. I don't think we can go to Paris and play an adventurous game and not end up on the end of a hiding. If the gameplan is to pin the French back in their own final third and then pressure them for mistakes from their back three, their clearances or possibly their lineout, then O'Gara is more suited to that than Sexton right now.

It would definitely be more entertaining to see Sexton start though
 
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Ireland Team to play France: 15-Rob Kearney, 14-Tommy Bowe, 13-Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12-Gordon D'Arcy, 11-Keith Earls, 10-Ronan O'Gara, 9-Tomas O'Leary; 8-Jamie Heaslip, 7-David Wallace, 6-To be confirmed, 5-Paul O'Connell, 4-Leo Cullen, 3-John Hayes, 2-Jerry Flannery, 1-Cian Healy.

Ferris will start at 6 if he's fit and thankfully he is being given as much time as possible. I think the back row is probably going to make or break this game for us (like most games really) so his inclusion would be a big boost to the team. I didn't see France play last week, but I'm guessing the selection of Jauzion and Bastareaud in the centres is a fairly strong hint as to how they'll play. D'Arcy and O'Driscoll are both capable defenders but they not only have to stop these two they'll need to smother them to stop any potential offloads because if the French get in behind us at all it'll be a long afternoon. I'm predicting we'll kick for territory quite a bit this weekend.



French Team: C Poitrenaud; V Clerc (both Toulouse), M Bastareaud (Stade Français), Y Jauzion (Toulouse), A Palisson (Brive); F Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), M Parra; T Domingo (both Clermont), W Servat (Toulouse), N Mas (Perpignan), L Nallet (Racing Métro), P Pape (Stade Français), T Dusautoir (Toulouse, capt), F Ouedraogo (Montpellier), I Harinordoquy (Biarritz).
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Fucking O' Leary.

And O'Gara. I think Kidney is picking much too conservatively.
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I used to think Stringer was Kidney's blind spot, but he's been replaced by O'Leary. I wouldn't have picked him.

Re: O'Gara though, I think there's an argument in his favour this week. I don't think we can go to Paris and play an adventurous game and not end up on the end of a hiding. If the gameplan is to pin the French back in their own final third and then pressure them for mistakes from their back three, their clearances or possibly their lineout, then O'Gara is more suited to that than Sexton right now.

It would definitely be more entertaining to see Sexton start though
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I think he's looked at their big guns and picked O'Leary for his strength- I can also see the benefit of O'Gara in this game, so fair dos. Stringer's quick hands would do me- and I know you're not a fan, but Boss is playing as well as I've ever seen him for Ulster this season, and I'd have him before O'Leary too, because he's also much more decisive and quick thinking.
 
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Does he still have that shit haircut ? I could never take to him because of that
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The crazy mullet thing has gone:

Old Isaac:
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New Issac:

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Then he can play.

Frankie Sheahan seems to have a decent blog on the Irish Times site Doc. Some good insight in the articles, I read this one today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/sixnations/2010/02/11/my-view-on-how-we-beat-the-french/
My view on how we beat the French….
February 11, 2010 @ 5:46 pm | by Frankie Sheahan


Expose their midfield frailties:
In commentating with RTE in France’s match in Murrayfield last Sunday, it was obvious that France gave the Scottish backs no time on the ball by using a rush defence. Scotland were crowded out every time the ball got past their outhalf and had zero time on the ball.

Using a rush defence is high-risk. It’s great for putting the attack off by forcing handling errors and by making big man-on-man hits and turning over the ball. However, the risk is that you can be caught flat-footed or side-stepped easier. If ball is slow coming from the Irish pack, or if our backs aren’t sharp enough, then France will rush up and the Irish midfield will be put off and turned over.

Playing against a rush defence also makes it more difficult for Rog to skip it to Drico or the outside backs, as was evident in the first minute against Australia in November where they picked up a loose ball for a 7-pointer.

Ireland can expose this rush defence in two ways.

Rog can dink or chip a couple of balls behind the defence early on. We can have Bowe or Earls on Rog’s shoulder as he is kicking – the winger thus acts as both a diversion and a chaser for the kick. What tends to happen to the defence in these cases (regardless of whether the kick works) is that they lose confidence in their rush strategy as the game goes on and then tend to stagger a bit more i.e. the midfield doesn’t move in one straight line, revealing gaps.

We can meet fire with fire – by using a “rush attack†whereby Tomás feeds fast ball and Rog uses lightening hands to pop it to D’Arcy or Drico running at full speed at an angle. The timing and angle are very important here.

Fortunately, Rog is one of the best in the world at countering these defences with his chips, and O’Driscoll and D’Arcy proved against Munster in last year’s Heineken Cup semi-final how defences can be caught ball-watching with the rush strategy. The fast feet of D’Arcy is a big plus for us in this area.


Defending the Maul


France have caused havoc in Paris against Ireland before by using the “catch and drive†from a lineout and creating rolling mauls that make 20 or 30 yards, often forcing us into giving away penalties.

In the world cup in ’07, I was guilty of coming in at the side of a French maul and giving away a crucial penalty – I felt at the time I had little choice, that their drive had to stop. You can’t underestimate the atmosphere in Paris on these drives, and often it is impossible to slow them down when the crowd are behind them and they are at full flight.

There are two ways we can defend the maul; John Hayes is the best in the business at tackling the catcher. For those unfamiliar with rules on the lineout / maul, a defender can’t pull a maul down once formed, however the first defender can tackle the catcher before the maul fully forms. As such, Hayes needs to deck the catcher the second his feet hit the ground before the rest of the French forwards can surround him and get the drive going.

If the maul does get into full flight then the best ‘creative’ technique for the defence to use is to drive on one side of the maul, forcing the attacking maul to twist or spin towards a 45 degree angle. This will disrupt their drive and make their guys at the front of the maul redundant, leaving the ball carrier who was at the back of the maul exposed and vulnerable to being legally tackled.

Both of the above strategies are very high-risk and open to referee interpretation . . . so we do need to be careful

Key Battle - Backrow

The battle of the backrow is a mouth-watering prospect. They are two of the best backrows in the competition, if not the world, and the individual and collective battles will be very interesting. France’ openside Ouedraogo was simply fantastic against Scotland and we all know of the ability of Dusatoir and Harinordoquy. On a good day, this backrow is capable of being the best in the world. They can be lethal in an open game and they are most likely the reason why France employ the rush defence – because these guys are so quick that they can cover behind.

Remember that Bonnaire will be on the bench – he is a seriously quality player and the thought of him not being good enough to get into any starting XV is frightening.

Regarding the Irish backrow, Wally is a better ball-carrier than any of the French backrow – and no matter how intimidating the French backrow may appear, I guarantee you they’re more scared of Wally in full flight then we are of them.

He needs to take on ball and run straight at the France outhalf Trinh-Duc. Heaslip has stepped up to the plate in a big way in this fixture before and needs to be at his very best again to take on Harinordoquy. It’s good to hear that Ferris is fit for the blindside.

The comparison between the two backrows is that the French are more akin to scavengers while our boys are more physical ball carriers. So we need to avoid the scattered game and give the ball to our 3 boys off set-plays and attack the 10 channel.

Game Plan

Unlike my blog this time last week before the Italian match, when I said that Ireland should play an open game – we now need to play the percentages and keep the game as structured as possible. That doesn’t mean that we’re consciously looking to slow the game down – it just means that we’ll play fast when we want to play fast – and slow things down when we want.

We simply cannot get into a loose, open game that we experienced in the first half in Paris four years ago - that will play right into their hands. Kearney needs to kick instead of counter-attack and Rog needs to kick over the heads of France’s back three as opposed to running it too much. Jerry and Paulie need to secure lineout ball and the team in general cannot afford to be too erratic.

Remember – this is the first time Ireland have played the French in a major sport since Thierry Henry’s handball on November 18th broke our hearts!

Allez les verts.

I will write my next blog after the game. Again, all comments are welcome.
 
Impressive piece. If that's a true sample of the standard of rugby comment you fellas get in the Republic, you're lucky.

You might have trouble implementing the "Tomas feeds fast ball" bit though. For what it's worth, I also think Boss would be the better choice.
 
If ball is slow coming from the Irish pack, or if our backs aren’t sharp enough, then France will rush up and the Irish midfield will be put off and turned over.

Get O'Leary to fuck.
 
Fearless start from the Irish and their forwards have took the upper-hand. French defence has held it's own, though, and little mistakes have cost Ireland getting into the points. I'm not sure why Ireland are so quick to spread it wide. There seems to be easy enough ground to be made in and around the fringes.

Also the typical French game of 'we'll cut you apart from our own 22' is just playing into the hands of the Irish, who have no problem pinning them back in their own half.
 
Jesus, that should have been a straight red card and put Ireland temporarily down to thirteen players.

Parra has a point...
 
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How bad is Eddie Butler's commentary?

Has already mis-identified 3 players.
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"....takes it quickly and will scorrrrrrrrrrr, or will the french defence be good?"

Lol
 
The problems that were obvious last week, rears their head again this week. We were well beaten by France, their rush defence had no trouble containing us for most of the game thanks to the slow ball produced by O'Leary again. If he gets picked again next week then my faith in Kidney will begin to wane.

Interestingly we used the rush defence this week too, but France were able to get around it with good skip passes and we had nothing to stop them once they got out wide. O'Driscoll got caught out a couple of time and Bowe was behind the French winger when Bastareud offloaded for the final try.

That said we had a decent start and let the game slip during Healy's 10 mins in the bin. We didn't take the chances we got either so we were up against it. The only part of our game that was good was our lineout, but we didn't turnover much ball either. We need changes at 9 & 10 and we'll be good to go against England.
 
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The problems that were obvious last week, rears their head again this week. We were well beaten by France, their rush defence had no trouble containing us for most of the game thanks to the slow ball produced by O'Leary again. If he gets picked again next week then my faith in Kidney will begin to wane.

Interestingly we used the rush defence this week too, but France were able to get around it with good skip passes and we had nothing to stop them once they got out wide. O'Driscoll got caught out a couple of time and Bowe was behind the French winger when Bastareud offloaded for the final try.

That said we had a decent start and let the game slip during Healy's 10 mins in the bin. We didn't take the chances we got either so we were up against it. The only part of our game that was good was our lineout, but we didn't turnover much ball either. We need changes at 9 & 10 and we'll be good to go against England.
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Lineout was great, and scrum has come a long way since the autumn, other than that- hmm we had some spells were we needed to score and didn't. For me- Healey and Flannery's indiscipline were hugely significant. Healey's wet behind the ears at this level, but Flannery should know better. After Kearney's injury it highlighted Kidney's mistake in not including Trimble in the squad, which would have meant we could keep Darcy where he was needed. Earls was a disaster for much of this as it was, and was culpable for repeated errors, though he wasn't alone.

That said, it might wake Kidney up, and hopefully he'll see that he's got the players to play a much better game than his selections are currently allowing. O'Leary....nuff said before this game.

Far
 
France were impressive, I thought. You lot were well beaten. Unfortunately you'll now probably take your frustrations out on England...
 
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France were impressive, I thought. You lot were well beaten. Unfortunately you'll now probably take your frustrations out on England...
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France were good, but I can still se them being beaten. We made far too many errors to give them a game. The French lineout is woeful, and on a better day, someone might take advantage.
 
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France were impressive, I thought. You lot were well beaten. Unfortunately you'll now probably take your frustrations out on England...
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They were indeed very impressive Bunny. I can't see either Wales or England beating them, so a Grand Slam for France it is imo.
 
The Wales v Scotland game was dire for 70 min's, but the final 10 made for excellent viewing.

I hope the Scots lad is ok, reports coming out was that he was in a bad way.
 
I only saw the last 10 mins of that game Rafa. I'm guessing Wales were shit for the first hour ?

There was some great play by Roberts and Byrne in the lead up to the penalty which levelled the game, and you really made the numbers count at the end.
 
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France were impressive, I thought. You lot were well beaten. Unfortunately you'll now probably take your frustrations out on England...
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France were good, but I can still se them being beaten. We made far too many errors to give them a game. The French lineout is woeful, and on a better day, someone might take advantage.
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That someone could be us if Borthwick manages to maintain his form from the Wales game. The French would be favourites, but favourites don't always win.
 
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