One of my favorite pass times is ridiculing Aussies for their complete inability to pronounce the word "Maroon".
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One of my favorite pass times is ridiculing Aussies for their complete inability to pronounce the word "Maroon".
LOL! Surely you mean 'Marone'??? 😀
Is it fair to say that Mignolet was our 4th or 5th choice GK target?
We tried to sign Ter Stegen first, then when it became clear we can't compete with Barca, we asked Hannover about Ron-Robert Zieler, but got brushed off immediately. Then we made an offer for Begovic, but couldn't approach Stoke's valuation and gave up. So that left Mignolet and Ruy Patricio. Not sure if we ever made an offer for Patricio (one newspaper claimed that Sporting rejected a 10M offer from us, but it might be bollocks).
Doesn't mean Mignolet isn't a good player (I don't have an opinion on him one way or another), but it looks like he wasn't near the top of our priority list of GK targets when this process started.
We tried to sign Ter Stegen first, then when it became clear we can't compete with Barca, we asked Hannover about Ron-Robert Zieler, but got brushed off immediately. Then we made an offer for Begovic, but couldn't approach Stoke's valuation and gave up. So that left Mignolet and Ruy Patricio. Not sure if we ever made an offer for Patricio (one newspaper claimed that Sporting rejected a 10M offer from us, but it might be bollocks).
Doesn't mean Mignolet isn't a good player (I don't have an opinion on him one way or another), but it looks like he wasn't near the top of our priority list of GK targets when this process started.
Was the beach ball incident at Sunderland the first domino in Pepe's decline?
Is it not supposed to be more to do with the goal keeping coach leaving?
I'm not sure LFC confirmed ANY of those supposed approaches .. in other words all media speculation based on Pepe's supposed departure.
Yep, Clemence to sort out the keepers, along with your other suggestions of Barnes as a youth coach, Dalglish in some ambassadorial role, Roy Evans as the liaison between Melwood and the first team, and Ian Rush to work with the strikers.
I'm surprised you don't want us to dig Billy Liddell out of the ground so he can pour the fucking tea at half-time.
It's a tough position though Macca.
With outfield players, a shit forward might turn out to be a great defender, a mediocre right back might turn into an excellent left winger, etc. Players get second/third chances and some make it.
With keepers, you turn out shit, and that's it. You're not ever going to get a chance to play for the big boys in any position. Likewise with outfield players being moved around different positions, they're never going to be moved into the goal keeper position by their coaches.
So the probability of developing a good goal keeper is much lower than that of the 10 other positions. Shouldn't be 1 in 50 years like it has been for us, but nevertheless it's not easy.
Is it really viable for big clubs to bring through goalkeepers through the youth system these days?
I think that they're simply there to accommodate the youth teams and if you're lucky get some kind of a fee at the end of the process.
It does happen - like De Gea at A.Madrid - but often as a result of things going wrong rather than great planning.
I think that they're simply there to accommodate the youth teams and if you're lucky get some kind of a fee at the end of the process.
It does happen - like De Gea at A.Madrid - but often as a result of things going wrong rather than great planning.
Why didn't you Binny that article?Was reported in the Belgian paper 'De Standaard' today : 'Mignolet close to Liverpool'
The Germans have a fantastic system of bring through goalies.
Lars Unnerstall, Roman Weidenfeller, Manuel Neuer, Oliver Baumann, Sven Ulreich, Marc-André ter Stegen, René Adler were all promoted from their club's youth team while Kevin Trapp, Fabian Giefer, Bernd Leno were sign from other clubs at a young age as 1st choice keepers.
Lars Unnerstall, Roman Weidenfeller, Manuel Neuer, Oliver Baumann, Sven Ulreich, Marc-André ter Stegen, René Adler were all promoted from their club's youth team while Kevin Trapp, Fabian Giefer, Bernd Leno were sign from other clubs at a young age as 1st choice keepers.
Where did you hear this? Internet rumours??
Yes, I've said many times it's a tough position to coach, but everything about it seems to go under the radar these days. There's absolutely no critical pressure. Not all clubs are shit at it, so it isn't impossible, but it's odd that a big club should appear to be completely fatalistic about accommodating such a shambolic element in its set up.
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Shots on Target Inside Box Saved : Over the past two season, Pepe has saved just 79 out of 143 shots. That is 55.42% saved, which is well below the PL average of 61%.
Mignolet has saved 57 of 81 faced at 70.4% in 11/12. That was best in the league. Pepe was 19th.
Shots from outside the box: Pepe was above average, saving 65 from 72 shots at 91.1%. PL average is 87%.
Defensive Errors: Very ugly for Pepe. He has made 11 errors over past two seasons. That is one error every 531 minutes, which is well below the league average of 942 minutes. Mignolet made an error every 1199 minutes.
Claiming crosses: Reina's missed attempts at claiming a cross was 32%, Mignolets was 6.4%
Total Save%: Reina has a save% of only 68% compared to Mignolet's 73%, despite facing only a little over half the total number of shots.
Reina conceded 34 goals from 107 shots, Mignolet conceded 54 from 203 shots on target.
Clean Sheets: Pepe has 14 this season to Mignolet's 11. Please remember the total shots faced. For the record, Liverpool have conceded the fewest shots in the box in the PL, Sunderland conceded the second most, which was also the second most of the 98 teams in Europe’s big five leagues.
Distribution: This is area where Pepe is clearly better. He has a short pass accuracy of 96.6%, compared to Mignolet's 73%.
Coming to long balls or long passes. Last season, Pepe had a long ball accuracy of 45.8%, compared to 36.9% from Mignolet.
Shots on Target Inside Box Saved : Over the past two season, Pepe has saved just 79 out of 143 shots. That is 55.42% saved, which is well below the PL average of 61%.
Mignolet has saved 57 of 81 faced at 70.4% in 11/12. That was best in the league. Pepe was 19th.
Shots from outside the box: Pepe was above average, saving 65 from 72 shots at 91.1%. PL average is 87%.
Defensive Errors: Very ugly for Pepe. He has made 11 errors over past two seasons. That is one error every 531 minutes, which is well below the league average of 942 minutes. Mignolet made an error every 1199 minutes.
Claiming crosses: Reina's missed attempts at claiming a cross was 32%, Mignolets was 6.4%
Total Save%: Reina has a save% of only 68% compared to Mignolet's 73%, despite facing only a little over half the total number of shots.
Reina conceded 34 goals from 107 shots, Mignolet conceded 54 from 203 shots on target.
Clean Sheets: Pepe has 14 this season to Mignolet's 11. Please remember the total shots faced. For the record, Liverpool have conceded the fewest shots in the box in the PL, Sunderland conceded the second most, which was also the second most of the 98 teams in Europe’s big five leagues.
Distribution: This is area where Pepe is clearly better. He has a short pass accuracy of 96.6%, compared to Mignolet's 73%.
Coming to long balls or long passes. Last season, Pepe had a long ball accuracy of 45.8%, compared to 36.9% from Mignolet.
Because Mignolet doesn't pass the ball like reina
The thing is Sunderland lose games on a regular basis, so he's had the freedom to play safely and simply try to avoid making mistakes. It'll be a difference and far more pressure when he comes here and realizes that he needs to actually step up and make moves to make sure we win game after game.
How much onus should be on the keeper to start moves? All he has to do is keep it simple from the back, which I'm sure he can work on to improve. I don't see how a keeper who plays for a struggling side has had the freedom to "play safely", unless you mean hoofing to get rid, which you would be pressured to do more anyway with an uncertain backline infront of you.
I don't just mean starting moves. I mean playing like a sweeper to collect the ball rather than waiting there and letting the striker take a shot. Because the former keeps you at 0-0 every time. The latter sees you go 1-0 down 20% of the time.
Ouch - I've been Onced
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