Should Xabi leave - what do we do?

[koze]

I rate Frings highly.

He had a superb world cup, anchoring a very attacking German midfield. He's a bit old now though.

 

[doctor_mac]

Frings is a good player but at 32 it isn't going to happen.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Frings will be 33 in November - so yeah, you may be right. It's very late to change countries and leagues. I wouldn't mind signing a short-term solution though. Better that than signing a 21-year-old who'll take two or three years to reach the level we need.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Didi Hamann?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Ruud Guillt

 

[rebel23]

Lucho is the only man and if we did it could improve us as he tends to get forward more than Alonso would and I think would score more. the more I think about it the more sense it makes

if not, forget it and keep Alonso for another year.

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=34440.msg897197#msg897197 date=1246278058]
Lucho is the only man and if we did it could improve us as he tends to get forward more than Alonso would and I think would score more. the more I think about it the more sense it makes

if not, forget it and keep Alonso for another year.



[/quote]

30 goals in 109 games! Fucking hell, even bearing in mind the quality of the Portuguese league, that's an insanely high figure for a CM. Does he take their penalties?

 

[TheBunnyman]

What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

 

[koze]

Okay okay..

Just putting it out there..

I think.. errr.. err.... How do I say this..

Now...

That young West Ham midfielder.. No.. Not Noble.. The Welsh one, Jack Collison, I reckon is a superb talent.

I think he could fill Alonso's role very well..


*hides*

 

[LadyRed]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897203#msg897203 date=1246278583]
What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

[/quote]


He's more of a sitter, surely.

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897206#msg897206 date=1246278626]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897203#msg897203 date=1246278583]
What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

[/quote]


He's more of a sitter, surely.
[/quote]

Right. So not a dynamic, box-to-box midfielder like Xa...

Oh, hang on.

 

[keniget]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897199#msg897199 date=1246278404]
30 goals in 109 games! Fucking hell, even bearing in mind the quality of the Portuguese league, that's an insanely high figure for a CM. Does he take their penalties?
[/quote]

I believe he does.

 

[LadyRed]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897207#msg897207 date=1246278684]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897206#msg897206 date=1246278626]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897203#msg897203 date=1246278583]
What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

[/quote]


He's more of a sitter, surely.
[/quote]

Right. So not a dynamic, box-to-box midfielder like Xa...

Oh, hang on.

[/quote]

Er, you sure you wanna do this with me B-man?

Cambiasso hasn't got the passing range or ability to retain possesion of the ball and dictate the pace of play the way Alonso does. Not even on his best day!

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897213#msg897213 date=1246279044]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897207#msg897207 date=1246278684]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897206#msg897206 date=1246278626]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897203#msg897203 date=1246278583]
What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

[/quote]


He's more of a sitter, surely.
[/quote]

Right. So not a dynamic, box-to-box midfielder like Xa...

Oh, hang on.

[/quote]

Er, you sure you wanna do this with me B-man?

Cambiasso hasn't got the passing range or ability to retain possesion of the ball and dictate the pace of play the way Alonso does. Not even on his best day!
[/quote]

I didn't say he did. In fact, if you read back, I think you'll find I said no one did. But 'a sitter' is exactly what Xabi is, in terms of positioning.

 

[LadyRed]

I know B-Man, I was messing cos you (I think jokingly) implied Xabi wasn't dynamic.

 

[Whitey85]

[quote author=koze link=topic=34440.msg897205#msg897205 date=1246278621]
That young West Ham midfielder.. No.. Not Noble.. The Welsh one, Jack Collison, I reckon is a superb talent.

I think he could fill Alonso's role very well..


*hides*
[/quote]

Noble is a neat and tidy little player. I thought Collison was more of a wide player?

Anyways if you want a young english lad who will be better than both of them we need to be shopping at Everton and signing Rodwell.

 

[Squiggles]

Cambiasso, although a fine player, is just too limited regardless of positioning.

We need someone much more dynamic.

 

[koze]

[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=34440.msg897232#msg897232 date=1246280516]
[quote author=koze link=topic=34440.msg897205#msg897205 date=1246278621]
That young West Ham midfielder.. No.. Not Noble.. The Welsh one, Jack Collison, I reckon is a superb talent.

I think he could fill Alonso's role very well..


*hides*
[/quote]

Noble is a neat and tidy little player. I thought Collison was more of a wide player?

Anyways if you want a young english lad who will be better than both of them we need to be shopping at Everton and signing Rodwell.
[/quote]
Isn't he a center back?

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Kill his cat is the simple answer.

 

[Whitey85]

I think thats where he will end up later on in his career but hes a very good passer of the ball and centre midfield is where he should start out and get some games.

 

[koze]

[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=34440.msg897251#msg897251 date=1246280974]
Kill his cat is the simple answer.
[/quote]
He has a rottie..

Not so simple now, is it?

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Easy with some steak and a sledgehammer.

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897213#msg897213 date=1246279044]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897207#msg897207 date=1246278684]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=34440.msg897206#msg897206 date=1246278626]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34440.msg897203#msg897203 date=1246278583]
What about Cambiasso? Or is he too defensively-minded?

[/quote]


He's more of a sitter, surely.
[/quote]

Right. So not a dynamic, box-to-box midfielder like Xa...

Oh, hang on.

[/quote]

Er, you sure you wanna do this with me B-man?

Cambiasso hasn't got the passing range or ability to retain possesion of the ball and dictate the pace of play the way Alonso does. Not even on his best day!
[/quote]

Pirlo can. He out-Xabi's Xabi.

 

[eecheerow]

Lucho is a good shout but he's rumoured to be off to Marseilles for £14.5 million.

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=eecheerow link=topic=34440.msg897284#msg897284 date=1246283224]
Lucho is a good shout but he's rumoured to be off to Marseilles for £14.5 million.
[/quote]

That'd soon change if we show an interest.

 

[rebel23]

[quote author=eecheerow link=topic=34440.msg897284#msg897284 date=1246283224]
Lucho is a good shout but he's rumoured to be off to Marseilles for £14.5 million.
[/quote]

Marseilles or Liverpool, tough choice that.

 

[Whitey85]

Does that mean Marseille are selling Cana then? Hmm.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Javi Martinez is more "dynamic" than Alonso. That doesn't mean he's better than him. All this talk all summer about the need for us to be "dynamic" is annoying.

 

[Le Chacal]

[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=34440.msg897290#msg897290 date=1246283826]
Does that mean Marseille are selling Cana then? Hmm.
[/quote]
He's waiting for a new contract and pay rise from Marseille, thats his first priority.
But his agent said he will listen to offers from other clubs.

 

[Rafiagra]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=34440.msg897313#msg897313 date=1246286648]
Javi Martinez is more "dynamic" than Alonso. That doesn't mean he's better than him. All this talk all summer about the need for us to be "dynamic" is annoying.
[/quote]

What does 'dynamic' actually mean when talking about footballers?