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Sebastián Coates

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Liverpool have made an £8m offer for the Uruguay international Sebastián Coates but face competition for his signature as Nacional encourage an auction for the 20-year-old defender.

Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool's owner, has met the Uruguay champions' current valuation of their 6ft 6in centre-half as they look to provide the manager, Kenny Dalglish, with his sixth summer signing.

Nacional this week granted permission to Coates's father, Peter, and agent, Matias Pittini, to discuss the terms of the transfer with Liverpool, who remain firm favourites to sign a player whose profile soared during Uruguay's triumphant Copa América campaign last month. "The offer is very good," Héctor Olmos, Nacional's vice-president, told a radio station on Tuesday. "Coates will surely go to Liverpool."

Nacional, however, are aware of interest from several Premier League teams, including Manchester City and Arsenal, as well as from clubs in Italy, Ukraine and throughout South America, and are attempting to hold out for the highest bidder.

Coates was valued at €3.5m (£3.06m) when talks were held over a proposed move to Porto before the Copa América
and Nacional hope City will top Liverpool's bid in the coming days.

Roberto Mancini, the City manager, has claimed he wants one more signing to follow the impending arrival of Samir Nasri at the Etihad Stadium but club officials have indicated the France international will represent their final purchase in this window and the club has already acquired a central defender this summer in Stefan Savic.

Coates, who is in Montevideo and believed to be receptive to a move to the Premier League, said: "This week I will talk about offers and decide whether to go or stay here. What I need is continuity so I don't lose my place in the national team. The Premier League?

"Do not discard any hypothesis. But the president knows what my family and I want. The market is open until 31 August and I won't stop waiting. Certain leagues have already commenced and to go and play at a club that has already started could be a disadvantage."

Does that last line means he's actually more in favour of a move to La Ligue or Serie A?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385570#msg1385570 date=1314128952]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46565.msg1385564#msg1385564 date=1314128673]
commoli not getting much credit then?

sound
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Congrats on him scouting a player who played all the way through that little known tournament broadcast all throughout the world, the Copa America.

What we would we do without him ?
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He was available for 2.3M before the Copa America too.

Good ole Comolls.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=46565.msg1385680#msg1385680 date=1314151812]
does commoli have a record of unearthing gems before they're known to the world?
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Yeah he paid 18M for David Bentley; I guess you could say no one saw that transfer coming.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=46565.msg1385655#msg1385655 date=1314139188]
Liverpool have made an £8m offer for the Uruguay international Sebastián Coates but face competition for his signature as Nacional encourage an auction for the 20-year-old defender.

Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool's owner, has met the Uruguay champions' current valuation of their 6ft 6in centre-half as they look to provide the manager, Kenny Dalglish, with his sixth summer signing.

Nacional this week granted permission to Coates's father, Peter, and agent, Matias Pittini, to discuss the terms of the transfer with Liverpool, who remain firm favourites to sign a player whose profile soared during Uruguay's triumphant Copa América campaign last month. "The offer is very good," Héctor Olmos, Nacional's vice-president, told a radio station on Tuesday. "Coates will surely go to Liverpool."

Nacional, however, are aware of interest from several Premier League teams, including Manchester City and Arsenal, as well as from clubs in Italy, Ukraine and throughout South America, and are attempting to hold out for the highest bidder.

Coates was valued at €3.5m (£3.06m) when talks were held over a proposed move to Porto before the Copa América
and Nacional hope City will top Liverpool's bid in the coming days.

Roberto Mancini, the City manager, has claimed he wants one more signing to follow the impending arrival of Samir Nasri at the Etihad Stadium but club officials have indicated the France international will represent their final purchase in this window and the club has already acquired a central defender this summer in Stefan Savic.

Coates, who is in Montevideo and believed to be receptive to a move to the Premier League, said: "This week I will talk about offers and decide whether to go or stay here. What I need is continuity so I don't lose my place in the national team. The Premier League?

"Do not discard any hypothesis. But the president knows what my family and I want. The market is open until 31 August and I won't stop waiting. Certain leagues have already commenced and to go and play at a club that has already started could be a disadvantage."

Does that last line means he's actually more in favour of a move to La Ligue or Serie A?
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La ligue hasn't started 😉

Probably he's talking about Portugal and Porto.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385681#msg1385681 date=1314152066]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=46565.msg1385680#msg1385680 date=1314151812]
does commoli have a record of unearthing gems before they're known to the world?
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Yeah he paid 18M for David Bentley; I guess you could say no one saw that transfer coming.
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oh dear.
 
I'd like to point out that I know absolutely nothing about this lad apart from the fact that he's 6 foot 6 seemingly.
 
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=46565.msg1385682#msg1385682 date=1314152089]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=46565.msg1385655#msg1385655 date=1314139188]
"Do not discard any hypothesis. But the president knows what my family and I want. The market is open until 31 August and I won't stop waiting. Certain leagues have already commenced and to go and play at a club that has already started could be a disadvantage."

Does that last line means he's actually more in favour of a move to La Ligue or Serie A?
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La ligue hasn't started 😉

Probably he's talking about Portugal and Porto.
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Yeah, both La Ligue and Serie A hasn't but I thought by his sentence he actually hinted he would prefer to join a league that hasn't begin, since "it could be a disadvantage" to play at one that already has.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385673#msg1385673 date=1314147756]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385570#msg1385570 date=1314128952]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46565.msg1385564#msg1385564 date=1314128673]
commoli not getting much credit then?

sound
[/quote]

Congrats on him scouting a player who played all the way through that little known tournament broadcast all throughout the world, the Copa America.

What we would we do without him ?
[/quote]

He was available for 2.3M before the Copa America too.

Good ole Comolls.
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He's still a great signing at 7m though. Although maybe I'm just happy that we're not going for the horribly overpriced "premiership proven" English alternative with fuck all potential this time.

I can't stress enough just how much I hate the Premiership proven line.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385709#msg1385709 date=1314164268]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385673#msg1385673 date=1314147756]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385570#msg1385570 date=1314128952]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46565.msg1385564#msg1385564 date=1314128673]
commoli not getting much credit then?

sound
[/quote]

Congrats on him scouting a player who played all the way through that little known tournament broadcast all throughout the world, the Copa America.

What we would we do without him ?
[/quote]

He was available for 2.3M before the Copa America too.

Good ole Comolls.
[/quote]

He's still a great signing at 7m though. Although maybe I'm just happy that we're not going for the horribly overpriced "premiership proven" English alternative with fuck all potential this time.

I can't stress enough just how much I hate the Premiership proven line.
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Carroll, Henderson, Adam and Downing.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385713#msg1385713 date=1314165078]
I was referring to Cahill and Dann this time
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I'd say Cahill is a good player but Dann has a long way to prove whether he is good enough. Carroll, Henderson, Adam and Downing are all overrated players. There you go.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385709#msg1385709 date=1314164268]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385673#msg1385673 date=1314147756]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385570#msg1385570 date=1314128952]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46565.msg1385564#msg1385564 date=1314128673]
commoli not getting much credit then?

sound
[/quote]

Congrats on him scouting a player who played all the way through that little known tournament broadcast all throughout the world, the Copa America.

What we would we do without him ?
[/quote]

He was available for 2.3M before the Copa America too.

Good ole Comolls.
[/quote]

He's still a great signing at 7m though. Although maybe I'm just happy that we're not going for the horribly overpriced "premiership proven" English alternative with fuck all potential this time.

I can't stress enough just how much I hate the Premiership proven line.
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Yeah I think you've made that point before.

In a similar vein - is it clear enough how much I hate "what's our best 11" talk? Cos if I haven't rammed that home sufficiently, I'm happy to divulge further.
 
I'll listen again Ryan about your best 11 again (I know what you're going to say but it's a good way to get your anger out).

The_Rule is still a pain eh?
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385673#msg1385673 date=1314147756]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46565.msg1385570#msg1385570 date=1314128952]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46565.msg1385564#msg1385564 date=1314128673]
commoli not getting much credit then?

sound
[/quote]

Congrats on him scouting a player who played all the way through that little known tournament broadcast all throughout the world, the Copa America.

What we would we do without him ?
[/quote]

He was available for 2.3M before the Copa America too.

Good ole Comolls.
[/quote]

Thats partially right, teams around bid that amount but it never materialized as Nacional stalled and have been holding out for 12 mill.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=46565.msg1385416#msg1385416 date=1314118902]
evertime we start looking at somone, city, United and or Chelsea start sniffing. Hopefull Luis will be the bait, and it does not get into a bidding war.

Regards
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Yeah, and then we have all the usual bellends telling us we lack ambition, when he opts to go for someone else, ala Mata and Aguero.

As for our best XI it's more or less obvious these days and just because we've bought players it doesn't mean they can't be in reserve of that.


------------------Reina------------------
Kelly/Glen--Carra--Agger--Enrique
-------------Lucas--Adam-------------
----------------SG/RM------------------
--Kuyt-------Suarez--------Downing

Are people seriously moaning now that we have a squad so it's become difficult to choose an obvious first XI? Or are they just being moany and taking that as a signal that our 'best' first XI isn't that obvious, because the quality isn't either? The truth as always is somewhere down the middle and that's probably the same for many of the top sides. It's a long time since you could put forward United's team with ease. Hernandez has been on the bench a fair bit (as has Giggs, Carrick, Park..) does that mean the team they're winning with at present, that probably has lesser players than Hernandez starting in it, is their 'best' team? Does it fuck.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46565.msg1385725#msg1385725 date=1314168389]
Then he wasnt available at all for that amount
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Exactly mate
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46565.msg1385735#msg1385735 date=1314171692]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=46565.msg1385416#msg1385416 date=1314118902]
evertime we start looking at somone, city, United and or Chelsea start sniffing. Hopefull Luis will be the bait, and it does not get into a bidding war.

Regards
[/quote]

Yeah, and then we have all the usual bellends telling us we lack ambition, when he opts to go for someone else, ala Mata and Aguero.

As for our best XI it's more or less obvious these days and just because we've bought players it doesn't mean they can't be in reserve of that.


------------------Reina------------------
Kelly/Glen--Carra--Agger--Enrique
-------------Lucas--Adam-------------
----------------SG/RM------------------
--Kuyt-------Suarez--------Downing

Are people seriously moaning now that we have a squad so it's become difficult to choose an obvious first XI? Or are they just being moany and taking that as a signal that our 'best' first XI isn't that obvious, because the quality isn't either? The truth as always is somewhere down the middle and that's probably the same for many of the top sides. It's a long time since you could put forward United's team with ease. Hernandez has been on the bench a fair bit (as has Giggs, Carrick, Park..) does that mean the team they're winning with at present, that probably has lesser players than Hernandez starting in it, is their 'best' team? Does it fuck.
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So if Downing wasn't your first choice signing, you're now a "bellend"?

And who the hell is moaning about having a big squad?

With posts like that you should be a mod over on RAWK. Weird.
 
Yeah Squiggs, that's exactly what I was saying. I meant the moany cunts who've gone on in every Mata/Aguero thread about how we should have got them ahead of City and co, it's not about wanting better than Downing, it's about being realistic regarding players that have gone to clubs with shit loads of money and who can offer CL football this year. I appreciate that doesn't apply to EVERY player (cf Suarez) but it applies to many.

If you read the last few pages there's posts prodding people to suggest our best XI, I thought it was trying to say that our first XI isn't obvious, ergo not good enough.

RAWK my fat hairy arse.
 
It's not always Mata and Aguero that people are talking about. It's about finding the next Mata and Aguero instead of signing players that are perceived as average.

The question fired back is always "Well who would *you* sign then?", which is aimed at proving that there is no-one else. That's clearly wrong - there are always players out there that will end up proving themselves to be the next big thing and it's up to Comolli and our scouting network to identify them - not the fans on the board. That said - as Oncy suggested the other day - we do have a pretty good track record at identifying top players on here.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46565.msg1385750#msg1385750 date=1314173877]
It's not always Mata and Aguero that people are talking about. It's about finding the next Mata and Aguero instead of signing players that are perceived as average.

The question fired back is always "Well who would *you* sign then?", which is aimed at proving that there is no-one else. That's clearly wrong - there are always players out there that will end up proving themselves to be the next big thing and it's up to Comolli and our scouting network to identify them - not the fans on the board. That said - as Oncy suggested the other day - we do have a pretty good track record at identifying top players on here.
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Of course there are and that's exactly where our scouting department (and Damien) need to buck up. Hopefully Sterling and co can go some of the way and we're now seeing the benefits of an emerging youth system, but I agree, it'd be nice to spot an Hernandez. People just need to be realistic regards certain signings that's all.
 
I just think that there is a propensity to get a little defensive at times and that has polarised the debate on many an occasion. I think almost everyone on here understands the need to be practical, realistic and patient on many levels, but at the end of the day that's not why we're fans. We crave that little bit of excitement and entertainment. Glamour signings are the most likely to give us that (even if they end up being shit because there will have been that anticipation up front!).

We haven't really had much of that this summer and it's dampened the mood. I think if you're going to preach the need to be realistic you just have to take that into consideration.
 
Liverpool FC: Kenny Dalglish steps up pursuit of Sebastian Coates

by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo Aug 24 2011

KENNY DALGLISH will unleash a strong side on Exeter City tonight as Liverpool FC step up their pursuit of Uruguay centre-back Sebastian Coates.

LFC strike duo Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll, along with new boys Stewart Downing, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Jose Enrique were all in the squad who flew to Devon for the second round Carling Cup tie.

Dalglish is determined to ensure Liverpool FC progress and could have another signing on board before the weekend.

Liverpool are understood to have offered Nacional around £7million for 20-year-old Coates.

Nacional vice-president Hector Olmos said: “The offer is very good. Coates will surely go to Liverpool.”

The highly-rated 6ft 6ins defender played alongside Suarez in Uruguay's triumphant Copa America campaign last month and was crowned young player of the tournament.

Dalglish is looking to boost his defensive options after allowing Sotirios Kyrgiakos to join Wolfsburg on a free transfer.

The Uruguayan has also been linked with Manchester City but the Reds are now in the box seat to secure his services.

Dalglish is focused on tonight's game at St James' Park and wants to maintain momentum after Saturday's league win at Arsenal.

There will be some changes, with Martin Skrtel, Jon Flanagan, Raul Meireles, Maxi Rodriguez and Jay Spearing pressing for a start. However, the manager will take no chances as the Reds look to avoid a repeat of last year's early exit at the hands of Northampton.

“If we are putting out a team to represent Liverpool Football Club then it will be a team we believe is capable of winning the game,” Dalglish said.

“We can't guarantee that we will win but we can guarantee it will be a strong enough team to represent the club.

“We will be trying our best to win the game because we want to be in the next round.

“The Carling Cup is important to us. We want to keep winning and the more wins we can get the better our season will be.

“We will make some changes but there won't be any changes because we're devaluing the competition or being disrespectful to Exeter City. We will make one or two changes because there are people who are deserving of a game.

“We've had two league games so far and we haven't been able to give everyone time on the pitch.”

It will be Liverpool's first trip to St James' Park since 1981 when a 6-0 win at the same stage of the competition completed an 11-0 thrashing on aggregate, with Dalglish scoring in both legs

Exeter City have endured a tough start to the season in League One but the Reds have left no stone unturned in the build-up to tonight's game.

“We are treating the game in exactly the same way as the one at Arsenal,” Dalglish said.

“The preparations for facing Exeter have been just as thorough.

“The attitude should be exactly the same as it was on Saturday.”

AC Milan remain on track to complete a deal for Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani, while Rayo Vallecano are hopeful of landing Dani Pacheco on loan.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/08/24/liverpool-fc-kenny-dalglish-steps-up-pursuit-of-sebastian-coates-100252-29291863/

Long articles make me feel like it's more likely to happen =)
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46565.msg1385703#msg1385703 date=1314159152]
I'd like to point out that I know absolutely nothing about this lad apart from the fact that he's 6 foot 6 seemingly.
[/quote]Damien!? Is that you?
 
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