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Sebastián Coates

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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=46565.msg1391043#msg1391043 date=1314739146]
So do we call him Coates as in the original British pronunciaton or Co aa tez as he is used to?

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Is he British?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46565.msg1391083#msg1391083 date=1314741459]
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Bad news for those who "won't believe signings until they're holding a Liverpool scarf". Not a scarf in sight I'm afraid.
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Now I believe
 
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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=46565.msg1391043#msg1391043 date=1314739146]
So do we call him Coates as in the original British pronunciaton or Co aa tez as he is used to?

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Is he British?
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His grandparents on his dad's side were Scottish. Therefore his name is Scottish.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46565.msg1391082#msg1391082 date=1314741409]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46565.msg1391063#msg1391063 date=1314740649]
I'm calling him Coatez, just to annoy fox.
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I'll never hear you say it, so it really won't bother me a bit.
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True, I'm gonna continue spelling his name with a 'z', Coatez.
You won't hear it, but you'll think it.... 😉
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46565.msg1391094#msg1391094 date=1314741755]
How long before some twat on TV calls him "coatsey"?
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Dunno about that, but I do have a feeling that Sebco is gonna stick.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46565.msg1391094#msg1391094 date=1314741755]
How long before some twat on TV calls him "coatsey"?
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Could well be Carra or Stevie for that matter.
 
They're allowed since they will know him. It's when people people like Paul Merson who've clearly never met the chap say it that pisses me off.
 
That report which described him as twice the player for half the price ( of jones at mu) ... Let's see how he settles but ... Well chuffed we signed him.
 
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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=46565.msg1391043#msg1391043 date=1314739146]
So do we call him Coates as in the original British pronunciaton or Co aa tez as he is used to?

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Is he British?
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His grandparents on his dad's side were Scottish. Therefore his name is Scottish.
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Any idea how he'll pronounce it?
 
Soccernet went for kwaa-tez in an article the other day, not sure I fancy that. But then again it sounds more like suarez and hes done alright for us.

edit, may aswell post it:

I've been assured by journalists - including the correspondent for Nacional, the club Coates is leaving - at El Pais, Uruguay's biggest newspaper, that the player doesn't hold an EU passport.

If ESPN's Premier League commentators - or any other commentators, for that matter! -are reading this, it's closer to 'CWA-tes' than 'Coats'. Confusion about the passport he holds may be a matter of debate, but before long an awful lot more people in Europe will be fully aware of the name.

Sebastian Coates
Position: Defender
Age: 20
Birth Date: Oct 7, 1990
Birth Place: Montevideo, Uruguay
Height: 6' 6'' (1.98m)
Weight: 75 kg

Coates' rise to fame came in the summer of 2011 when his performances at the Copa America for Uruguay set Europe's elite - and most notably Liverpool - on his trail.
As a youth player he joined Montevideo side Club Nacional in 2004 and made his professional debut in 2009, winning the title in his first full season. But the 6' 6'' defender had already begun to make waves in the game and was a youth international with his country before he had even made a start for his club.

Quickly showing off his balance, speed and technique he played at the 2009 South American Youth Championships and the Under-20 World Cup and almost made the cut for the 2010 World Cup, although was left behind.

Illness to Diego Godin handed him his chance at the 2011 Copa America after winning another Uruguayan title and Liverpool made their move to bring him in with a week remaining in the transfer window.

Strengths: Height is obviously a key attribute and his aerial ability matches his frame. A decent ball player, he also has strength in abundance.

Weaknesses: Concentration and positional awareness can be worked on, but there are few holes in his game. Although a strong player, it is also said he must learn to use this more wisely.

Career high: The 2011 Copa America tournament saw Coates arrive on the international scene, winning the trophy and being named the Best Young Player.

Career low: Left out of the Uruguay's 2010 World Cup squad due to his lack of experience.

Style: Tall, elegant, commanding, a deceptively quick defender.

Quotes: "It's a club with a lot of tradition and history in English football, and the fact that Luis [Suarez] is there is a great help for me,'' Coates talks about his move to Liverpool, August 2011.

Trivia: At 17, Coates made his debut for the Uruguay Under-20 side in 2008 without a competitive start for his club to his name.
 
Nah, he must be half the player the chappie who called him twice the player because he is confirmed barely 32 pages into SCM!

But still if he is half the player that he is suppose to be twice over, he is exactly one whole player of the other player that was signed for 20 million by Man Utd. And we are paying less than half of that guy? That is unbelievable!
 
The transfer season throws up some funny stories sometimes. In January, I was asked on Twitter for my thoughts on a teenage attacking sensation at River Plate called Juan Jose Vea Murguia, who was attracting interest from Tottenham Hotspur. It took a matter of minutes on Google to discover that the kid didn't exist. Not even River's directors had heard of him.

Sebastian Coates definitely does exist, Liverpool fans will be pleased to know. There seems to have been some misinformation reported about him in the UK, because I've been assured by journalists - including the correspondent for Nacional, the club Coates is leaving - at El Pais, Uruguay's biggest newspaper, that the player doesn't hold an EU passport. That seems to be the main reason his transfer to Liverpool has been relatively drawn-out after being reported by some outlets over a week ago as a 'done deal.'

Liverpool fans in the UK could be forgiven for not having seen Coates in action; the Copa America was hardly played at the most Europe-friendly of times for the most part. So let me assure you that you're getting a genuinely fine defender, regardless of his youth.

Of all the talents in an exciting generation of players coming through for Uruguay, Coates is perhaps the most complete. Awards for Best Player at international tournaments normally go to the more eye-catching attacking players (the 2002 and 2006 World Cups are notable exceptions), and indeed the Copa America followed suit this year, with Luis Suarez getting that individual gong. Coates, however, got the Best Young Player award, and it was richly deserved.

Coates sat out Uruguay's first match in the group stage, against Peru, but replaced Mauricio Victorino for the 1-1 draw against Chile and never looked back. Playing alongside Uruguay captain Diego Lugano, he was afforded a certain amount of protection perhaps by his more experienced team-mates. What really made him stand out, though, was that at no point did he need it. He barely put a foot wrong throughout the tournament, and it's clear that Victorino is going to have a real fight on to win back his place from the 20-year-old now.

Those of us who'd seen Nacional in the Copa Libertadores weren't surprised. The Uruguayan giants went out in the group stage, but by the narrowest of margins; Brazilians Fluminense scored an incorrectly awarded penalty in stoppage time of their final group match against Argentinos Juniors, and Nacional went out on goals scored as a result. In six group games they conceded only three goals - two of which came in the opening match away to America de Mexico, a match Coates didn't play in. They only scored three, which was what eventually cost them, but Coates provided the final pass for all three. Not bad going for a central defender.

It goes without saying, then, that he's comfortable bringing the ball out of defence and breaking forward to join the attack whenever possible. His timing in the tackle is also superb, and whenever I've seen him for Nacional or Uruguay he's rarely been caught out of position. Defence especially is an area of the pitch where inexperienced players can be found out and lose confidence, but that shouldn't be a problem for him.

One British journalist visiting Argentina for the Copa America couldn't believe it when, after the final, we told him Coates was only 20 (the matter came up because he'd offered up the opinion that the defender was surely too old for the Young Player award). He'd caught several of Uruguay's matches during the Copa, and thought the kid must have been more like twenty-four or so.

Of course, as a South American joining a Premier League club, there are bound to be a few sweepstakes held on how long it takes before a commentator questions whether he's ready for the physical hurly-burly of the English game, especially at centre-back. Again, it's not an area I think Coates is likely to be troubled by; he's not far shy of six feet six, and though no stranger to the referee's notebook, he's young, level-headed and intelligent enough to adapt his game to the new climate he'll find himself in in terms of officiating. Anyone concerned about whether he'll handle the pressure of a trip to Old Trafford or Goodison should get on YouTube and search for his name along with 'Nacional Penarol'. Nacional are in white, and Coates has put in some epic performances for them in Uruguay's biggest derby.

A glut of Player, Defender and Young Player awards in Uruguay, and two league titles already, having cemented his starting position in Nacional's defence way before his 19th birthday, demonstrate that he's got an old head on his young shoulders, and he looks set to be a fixture in Uruguay's side for years to come. If Liverpool are making this signing with the idea of finding a medium-to-long-term replacement for Jamie Carragher, I struggle to think of anyone who'd have been a better pick, especially given the fee they've paid for him (around £7 million).

That fee doubles the previous Uruguayan transfer record (Ajax paid roughly £3.5 million for Nicolas Lodeiro when they bought the playmaker, also from Nacional, in 2010), although due to a part-ownership agreement Nacional will only receive around half the money. The fact that these two figures have come within a couple of years of each other is perhaps further proof -if it were needed after the 2010 World Cup and 2011 Copa America -that Uruguayan football is on the up.

A work permit now having been sorted (he doesn't have appearances in the required 75% of Uruguay games in the last two years to have got one automatically), the only further misinformation I expect will be spread about Coates now is the pronunciation of his surname. If ESPN's Premier League commentators - or any other commentators, for that matter! -are reading this, it's closer to 'CWA-tes' than 'Coats'. Confusion about the passport he holds may be a matter of debate, but before long an awful lot more people in Europe will be fully aware of the name.
 
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Those of us who'd seen Nacional in the Copa Libertadores weren't surprised. The Uruguayan giants went out in the group stage, but by the narrowest of margins; Brazilians Fluminense scored an incorrectly awarded penalty in stoppage time of their final group match against Argentinos Juniors, and Nacional went out on goals scored as a result. In six group games they conceded only three goals - two of which came in the opening match away to America de Mexico, a match Coates didn't play in. They only scored three, which was what eventually cost them, but Coates provided the final pass for all three. Not bad going for a central defender.
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These are amazing stats. Everything we've been told about this kid has been extremely positive. Desperate to see him play in the shirt.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46565.msg1391084#msg1391084 date=1314741511]
Considering Coates is 6' 6", Comolli's got a bit of height as well it seems!
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They're on the steps in the tunnel - Comolli on the tops step, Coates with his feet somewhere around the dugouts ....
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46565.msg1391078#msg1391078 date=1314741235]
Cortez. He'll lead us to the brave new world
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Coatez the Killer. I like it.
 
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=46565.msg1391195#msg1391195 date=1314775340]
Surely if he had Scottish grandparents he'd not need a work permit?? ???
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From what I read, that'd be the case if he himself was born in the Commonwealth.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=46565.msg1391250#msg1391250 date=1314781131]
Been handed the no. 16 shirt.
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I'm sure downing will give him the number 19 shirt next season.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46565.msg1391083#msg1391083 date=1314741459]
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Bad news for those who "won't believe signings until they're holding a Liverpool scarf". Not a scarf in sight I'm afraid.
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Welcome Sebo
 
All this Raul bollocks has take the gloss of us bringing in a hugely promising centre back, and re-signing a smashing little forward utility player , who would have walked over broken glass to play for kenny, and on a free.

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=46565.msg1392848#msg1392848 date=1314877591]
All this Raul bollocks has take the gloss of us bringing in a hugely promising centre back, and re-signing a smashing little forward utility player , who would have walked over broken glass to play for kenny, and on a free.

regards
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exactly. The work rate bellamy brings will be phenomenal and as for coates.....i can't wait to see him play for us
 
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