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I'm going for Mourinho (who would definitely come to us once Madrid fires him), Rafa (who's shown it was a mistake to let him go) or possibly Kloop (why wouldn't he come to the biggest club in England?).

Dark horse is definitely Erikkson ... He could turn us around and has a good record in some country I'm sure..
 
LMAO.. I detect a wee hint of Sarcasm

The sad thing is the only one who would be even slightly interested out of that bunch would be Benitez..

Klopp interests me though.. We would have to offer something decent to get him here..

Watching Champions league last night made me sad. This great club should be in that competition..
 
What about the possibility of bringing back Roy HOdgson? Look how brilliant England played against Brazil. If he can beat Brazil, he really should be able to beat WBA.
 
It's becoming so bad (from both sides of the argument) that I can't even be arsed reading the footy forum anymore.

People seem to think they are funny with this sort of stuff but it's just boring and puts you off reading the site to be honest.

Also whenever Suarez scores you just know there's gonna be a "sell him he's shite" comment, which is just dull, tiresome and old.

The place is going down the pan again....
 
It's becoming so bad (from both sides of the argument) that I can't even be arsed reading the footy forum anymore.

People seem to think they are funny with this sort of stuff but it's just boring and puts you off reading the site to be honest.

Also whenever Suarez scores you just know there's gonna be a "sell him he's shite" comment, which is just dull, tiresome and old.

The place is going down the pan again....
I agree.
 
It's becoming so bad (from both sides of the argument) that I can't even be arsed reading the footy forum anymore.

People seem to think they are funny with this sort of stuff but it's just boring and puts you off reading the site to be honest.

Also whenever Suarez scores you just know there's gonna be a "sell him he's shite" comment, which is just dull, tiresome and old.

The place is going down the pan again....

Couldn't agree more. This thread and ones like it are just shit.
 
the whole football forum is a joke at the moment. if we have a good game there are about 50 threads on how positive things are looking, and if we lose a game there are about 25,000 threads on who is to blame. this season was always supposed to be one of rebuilding and we will remain inconsistent until some fundamental issues within the team are addressed.
 
the whole football forum is a joke at the moment. if we have a good game there are about 50 threads on how positive things are looking, and if we lose a game there are about 25,000 threads on who is to blame. this season was always supposed to be one of rebuilding and we will remain inconsistent until some fundamental issues within the team are addressed.

ding ding ding ding ...
 
the whole football forum is a joke at the moment. if we have a good game there are about 50 threads on how positive things are looking, and if we lose a game there are about 25,000 threads on who is to blame. this season was always supposed to be one of rebuilding and we will remain inconsistent until some fundamental issues within the team are addressed.

I keep reading that. And people might be right. We are in transition and we will remain unstable and inconsistent. And that is fine.

The problem is that noone have any clue on what should be a proper objective for the club. noone have a timelimit for when we are supposed to show anything worth watching. Noone has any idea on what significant progress is. It is just a timeless excuse for us not performing while we await some young bloke doing something he never done before. That could lead to people being a little clueless on what to discuss.
 
I think the forum is great at the moment.

Its showing exactly what being a football fan is about. Passion, heart albeit a little fickle.

Lets face it we all love this great club of ours. We are just all venting our frustrations, ideas and concepts one way or another.

But Yeh their is one or two clueless numpties that spoil it for the rest..
 
I keep reading that. And people might be right. We are in transition and we will remain unstable and inconsistent. And that is fine.

The problem is that noone have any clue on what should be a proper objective for the club. noone have a timelimit for when we are supposed to show anything worth watching. Noone has any idea on what significant progress is. It is just a timeless excuse for us not performing while we await some young bloke doing something he never done before. That could lead to people being a little clueless on what to discuss.

we often show something worth watching, but we also demonstrate a serious weakness to certain styles of football - something i am certain that rogers is aware of and will try to address in the summer window. what you say about people being clueless on what to discuss is inaccurate. there are some members of the board who are able to identify issues within the team and that's fine so long as it is rational. the problem with the football forum is that a lot of members are in fact clueless about football and turn it into a breeding ground for stupidity
 
the whole football forum is a joke at the moment. if we have a good game there are about 50 threads on how positive things are looking, and if we lose a game there are about 25,000 threads on who is to blame. this season was always supposed to be one of rebuilding and we will remain inconsistent until some fundamental issues within the team are addressed.
Unfortunately it's the current zeitgeist that envelopes younger fans of ALL teams. Everyone wants instant success from new managers, players go in-an-out of fashion over a period of a few games and fans feel ever more removed from their teams/players than even 10 years ago.

I've been to games in recent years where I've seen teams being boo-ed off the pitch at half time for being level 0-0 EVEN THOUGH THEIR TEAMS WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!

I don't get involved in football debate on here much these days because I haven't the patience for it and it achieves nothing.
 
Unfortunately it's the current zeitgeist that envelopes younger fans of ALL teams. Everyone wants instant success from new managers, players go in-an-out of fashion over a period of a few games and fans feel ever more removed from their teams/players than even 10 years ago.

I've been to games in recent years where I've seen teams being boo-ed off the pitch at half time for being level 0-0 EVEN THOUGH THEIR TEAMS WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!

I don't get involved in football debate on here much these days because I haven't the patience for it and it achieves nothing.

From my point of view its not about wanting instant success, it's about progression, and I am yet to see that this season.

One step forward, two steps back.. From the ground to Board Level..
 
we often show something worth watching, but we also demonstrate a serious weakness to certain styles of football - something i am certain that rogers is aware of and will try to address in the summer window. what you say about people being clueless on what to discuss is inaccurate. there are some members of the board who are able to identify issues within the team and that's fine so long as it is rational. the problem with the football forum is that a lot of members are in fact clueless about football and turn it into a breeding ground for stupidity

Yeah, it is worth watching us trashing Norwich a few games a season, and play around a sloppy Riise at Fulham. But that kind of game doesnt take us forward alone. We need a much broader perspective to the game, and Rodgers doesn't seem to have that, and he doesn't seem to be keen on learning it either.

Our senior coaching staff is him and Colin Pascoe, who knows the exact same stuff as Rodgers. They have around them Mike Marsh who is at best "green" at this level and hence is probably not a strong voice in opposition to Rodgers. And the board? Some American dudes who will stand by their implementation as long as we are not relegated, cause in American sport all bar champions are equal. They can't adress the matter, and I think Rodgers were quite clear on what kind of interuption he wants from people above him: None.
 
From my point of view its not about wanting instant success, it's about progression, and I am yet to see that this season.

One step forward, two steps back.. From the ground to Board Level..
I'm much better at analysing other team's players and performances than ours simply because my emotional involvement with LFC makes it very difficult for me to be objective BUT that said I actually do see some progression this season and am more optimistic than I've been since Rafa's heyday.
 
I'm much better at analysing other team's players and performances than ours simply because my emotional involvement with LFC makes it very difficult for me to be objective BUT that said I actually do see some progression this season and am more optimistic than I've been since Rafa's heyday.

Just out of curiosity and not negativity; Were do you see this improvements in our teams performances? I also think we aremiles better than the Hodgson area, but I can't really see much progress on the Dalglish II area. And yes I agree wholeheartedly that we were very poor last spring. But bear in mind that the Suarez saga could (!) have cost more energy than we saw from the outside.
 
  • We've lowered the age of the squad.
  • Given some of the youth team some regular starts, including Sterling and Suso
  • Signed Sturridge, given us two strikers who can score goals for the first time since I can't remember
  • Started us playing a possesion type football. Ok, it's not worked always, but it should set us up to be a better team
  • Reduced the wage bill, by getting rid of some of the fringe players that were on high wages
  • Suarez is having his best ever season for us. Could be a coincidence though.
  • Kenny's players are all playing better under Rodgers. Could be down to the fact they are here longer, but then Rodger's signings should be given the same length of time to judge.
I'm sure there's more positives too, but that's all I can think of for now.
 
  • We've lowered the age of the squad. - I rather want good players than young players.
  • Given some of the youth team some regular starts, including Sterling and Suso - Fair, but it is not necessarily new to us and they have one goal between them I reckon. Both are good, and promising and hopefully that will show in the future.
  • Signed Sturridge, given us two strikers who can score goals for the first time since I can't remember - Carroll looked sharp the last few months of last season and we shipped him out. So this we could have had from the start of the season.
  • Started us playing a possesion type football. Ok, it's not worked always, but it should set us up to be a better team - We probably had more possesion under Dalglish than now. Anyway it is what you do with the possesion that counts.
  • Reduced the wage bill, by getting rid of some of the fringe players that were on high wages - This is a very good point.
  • Suarez is having his best ever season for us. Could be a coincidence though.- he was very good last autumn too, but faded away in the spring. he looks jaded now. he is a star and was a star from day one.
  • Kenny's players are all playing better under Rodgers. Could be down to the fact they are here longer, but then Rodger's signings should be given the same length of time to judge.- Fair point.
I'm sure there's more positives too, but that's all I can think of for now.
 
Just out of curiosity and negativity; Were do you see this improvements in our teams performances? I also think we aremiles better than the Hodgson area, but I can't really see much progress on the Dalglish II area. And yes I agree wholeheartedly that we were very poor last spring. But bear in mind that the Suarez saga could (!) have cost more energy than we saw from the outside.
I was unhappy with so many of the signing we've made in recent seasons under various managers; some totally shite/pointless ones like Konchesky, Degen, Jovanovic, Zenden, R.Keane, Poulsen, J. Cole etc, and some half-decent (and with potential to improve) that we paid WAY over the odds for Carroll, Downing, Henderson etc.

I also hated the way we were slow to ship out deadwood cf El Zahr, N'Gog, and a host of young talentless goalies.

Nonsense like the Aquilani and J. Cole deals made us look like idiots.

Under Rodgers we've weeded out a lot of the deadwood quite quickly, we've added IMO some very promising players like Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho - I realise the Allen hasn't impressed most fans BUT he is a top young player and he will blossom into a world class player (hopefully at Anfield). Sturridge IMO will never be a top international forward (like Shearer, Henry, Rooney etc) but has enough about him to become a very useful addition. Coutinho - I dunno, but he has ability to beat players so fingers crossed he can develop into a top player for us.

I love our kids; Suso, McLaughlin, Sinclair, Teixera, Wisdom, Sterling, Yesil.....and many others, the list of our young talent seems endless for the first time in decades.

There is something missing at the moment and, like Rodgers, I can't quite put my finger on it. We have some excellent players like Johnson, Agger (he's still great but having a bad time at present), Gerrard, Suarez, Skrtel (see Agger), Kelly (when fit) and with all the new players and kids coming through it's hard for me not to be excited.

I won money betting against us beating Villa and WBA recently so I'm obviously aware that we are not anything special at the moment but we have a lot of the building blocks in place to become a really good team.

If we can keep our current manager and squad together; bring the likes of McLaughlin, Teixera, Sinclair and Yesil through into the first team squad next season, add a DM like Wanyama and buy another top striker then I see us challenging the top teams for the trophies next season.

Caveat: As I mentioned earlier I find it difficult to be objective about LFC and much of this might be seen as rose-tinted optimism BUT these are my genuine feeling about our current position.
 
Wait, you bet against a Liverpool team. You are some Hedge Funding son of a gun. Send that money to charity before it destroys you!
 
Wait, you bet against a Liverpool team. You are some Hedge Funding son of a gun. Send that money to charity before it destroys you!
I do sometimes bet on my own team though Localny.

When I bet against LFC I call those "Guilt bets" because of the associated feelings of guilt in backing against us, when I bet on us to win, I call those......."Losing bets" because of the associated lack of monetary reward :-(
 
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