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The red mist drops occasionally, but he's matured quite a bit over the last year or so. Why, who would you have as a vice captain in that situation?
 
I would of been happy for Carra to have it a few seasons ago, but that time has passed now. He needs to just focus on playing well and staying in the team.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034804#msg1034804 date=1263565134]
The red mist drops occasionally, but he's matured quite a bit over the last year or so. Why, who would you have as a vice captain in that situation?
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Reina
 
Ever since Gerrard's horrendous handwash & fist-fight brawl I don't think he has looked the same player.

He's got a lot of things on his mind and he seems incapable of pulling us out of this mess. Maybe the captaincy should indeed move on.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38437.msg1034677#msg1034677 date=1263558525]
We have had some bad luck this season with injuries,incidents during games etc. But we have also been so bad that nothing can excuse our performances.

I agree.

Having lots of injuries is unlucky, though I do wonder if there is more to it than that. One of the things which I thought really improved at Liverpool under Benitez was player fitness, yet this season not only are players getting injured all the time but even the ones who are playing don't look particularly sharp a lot of the time.
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What I said above your post, football players have to be trained in the right way. The training is a science where the considerations of each individuals body need to be taken into account. The players need to work on improving strength etc in certain muscle groups and this is the job of the fitness coach to look at all this shit.
There is certainly a claim to say injuries are bad luck, but to me more needs to be looked at regarding new fitness staff and the lack of sharpness and increased injuries to some of the players and their recovery times.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
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*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
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*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
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Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034813#msg1034813 date=1263565539]
I bet Capello is unimpressed with Gerrard's attitude. He makes Lampard look like the model pro.
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What are you talking about? He's the same as he's always been. Except not playing as well. Because he's injured.
 
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[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034804#msg1034804 date=1263565134]
The red mist drops occasionally, but he's matured quite a bit over the last year or so. Why, who would you have as a vice captain in that situation?
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Reina
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I love the big baldy sod and would have him as VC in any other position, but he wouldn't effectively be able to communicate with anybody past Masch & Lucas.
 
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034813#msg1034813 date=1263565539]
I bet Capello is unimpressed with Gerrard's attitude. He makes Lampard look like the model pro.
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What are you talking about? He's the same as he's always been. Except not playing as well. Because he's injured.
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Yes, that's right, he's been wonderful.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
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*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
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Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
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Well we can hope mate.

If his family have still not managed to settle though and a foreign team comes calling, i can only see one outcome.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
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*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
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Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
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Well we can hope mate.

If his family have still not managed to settle though and a foreign team comes calling, i can only see one outcome.
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Maxi's got a nice family though I bet.

They'll do fine.

Oh and with Higuain on his way as well (£10M) there'll be loads of Argentinias to hang around with.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
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*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
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Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
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Well we can hope mate.

If his family have still not managed to settle though and a foreign team comes calling, i can only see one outcome.
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Maxi's got a nice family though I bet.

They'll do fine.

Oh and with Higuain on his way as well (£10M) there'll be loads of Argentinias to hang around with.
[/quote]Mate!
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
[/quote]

*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
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Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
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And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
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Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
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Well we can hope mate.

If his family have still not managed to settle though and a foreign team comes calling, i can only see one outcome.
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We hear rather less about all this now though, so I wonder if the missus is feeling more positive. Fingers crossed.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38437.msg1034807#msg1034807 date=1263565348]
Ever since Gerrard's horrendous handwash & fist-fight brawl I don't think he has looked the same player.

He's got a lot of things on his mind and he seems incapable of pulling us out of this mess. Maybe the captaincy should indeed move on.
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It should never have moved from Sami as long as he's been here in the first place.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38437.msg1034833#msg1034833 date=1263566302]
Ha.

I love khl's outlook on this.
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He'd love to say "Agger" but he knows that the ensuing volanic eruption would be horrific.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38437.msg1034833#msg1034833 date=1263566302]
Ha.

I love khl's outlook on this.
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Mate!
 
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[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38437.msg1034807#msg1034807 date=1263565348]
Ever since Gerrard's horrendous handwash & fist-fight brawl I don't think he has looked the same player.

He's got a lot of things on his mind and he seems incapable of pulling us out of this mess. Maybe the captaincy should indeed move on.
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It should never have moved from Sami as long as he's been here in the first place.
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Agreed.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034835#msg1034835 date=1263566359]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38437.msg1034833#msg1034833 date=1263566302]
Ha.

I love khl's outlook on this.
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He'd love to say "Agger" but he knows that the ensuing volanic eruption would be horrific.
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Wait for it..................









Wait for it..................
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38437.msg1034810#msg1034810 date=1263565393]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38437.msg1034801#msg1034801 date=1263565016]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034784#msg1034784 date=1263564326]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=38437.msg1034769#msg1034769 date=1263563618]
A disgrace. He's got the emotional age of a 12 year old.
[/quote]

*Concurs*

Jamie would be my captain, with Masch as my 2nd, the problem is if that happened I think Stevie would spit the dummy out and he'd either be shit for quite a time or he'd see it as another reason to think about leaving (that and no title).
[/quote]

Masher my arse. He's a fucking liability
[/quote]

And he's likely to chip off at the end of the season.
[/quote]
Fingers crossed that's not going to happen.
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Well we can hope mate.

If his family have still not managed to settle though and a foreign team comes calling, i can only see one outcome.
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We hear rather less about all this now though, so I wonder if the missus is feeling more positive. Fingers crossed.
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Yeah thats true mate, but i suspect that it will resurface at the end of the season again.

News on his new contract seems to have gone quiet as well.

Like you say though "fingers crossed".
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38437.msg1034851#msg1034851 date=1263566938]
Damn it KHL, those 22 seconds were up there with the most excrutiating of my life.
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A real cliffhanger I know... to keep you on your toes if you like.

*Whitey's probably not the only one falling asleep over his keyboard.....
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=38437.msg1034905#msg1034905 date=1263571808]
Higuain for £10m


hahaha
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probably could have done that deal in the summer. and i wanted it to happen.
 
didnty sammy manage bolton and they were down near the foot of the table and he got the sack and they put megson in the job dont that say everything about sammy as a manager great servant that he is to liverpool he is best left were he is being blanked by rafa
 
I think I agree. Its difficult to tell.
Sammy is no manager but I don't think anyone would want him to be.
 
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