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It wouldn't be a huge shock if there was an argument of some kind but I'd be very surprised if it went as far as that.

Thanks for sharing though SummerOnions. Always interesting to hear.

Incidently were Gerrard and Torres on the bench in the second half? I don't recall them being shown.
 
I did not mate. But to be fair I haven't left the lounge since 11am. And if he showed up here uninvited, Nando or not, I would be a bit miffed.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38437.msg1034362#msg1034362 date=1263510039]
Getting it back next season Big Man so if you all think I'm like a bear with a sore head now, just wait.
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hehe ...

Good luck !
 
IT confused me during the match, but why did the pitchside commentator speak to purslow about gerrards 'injury'? Surely he should be watching in his seat
 
Sack Rafa now before its too late. Give Sammy the time to manage until the end of the season. After that we can have Mourinho next summer.
 
[quote author=Glock link=topic=38437.msg1034443#msg1034443 date=1263541561]
Sack Rafa now before its too late. Give Sammy the time to manage until the end of the season. After that we can have Mourinho next summer.
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You make Amy Winehouse looks sane.
 
Guus Hiddink has just said he's interested in the job.

I would prefer Guus over Rafa anytime of the day.

But with Roman's blessings of course.
 
Re: sack the cunt.

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Only if you take it out of context.
This season we are fighting a battle we may win. ie to finishe fourth.

Last season I knew we wouldn't win the leauge but only because of some big mistakes from our mananger, namely his transfers and team selection.

Its was very painful to watch us get so close to winning the league only to see those cnuts lift no 18.


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You have a losers mentality. You are perfect for this years' team.

Last year we played good football, scored exciting goals, shat all over some quality teams and bitter rivals, and had a chance to win the title, and your confidence we wouldn't do it doesn't change that.

We have shown less this year to suggest we'll get fourth than we did last year to suggest we'd take the title, and we'll certainly have less fun watching it all play out this year, because we are an awful football team at present.
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Ha. I have anything but a losers mentality and that is why I wasn't happy last season as I knew we wouldn't win and anything bar first is not good enough.

We lost last year because we brought in a striker and didn't play him while not bringing in any pace or width. Ultimately it was our lack of creativity and ability to break down the weaker teams that cost us the title and I could see that coming from the day we wasted our budget on Keane.
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If we'd kept Keane from Jan to May last year we would have won the league.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=38437.msg1034487#msg1034487 date=1263545287]
Guus Hiddink has just said he's interested in the job.

I would prefer Guus over Rafa anytime of the day.

But with Roman's blessings of course.
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Any quotes Rog? There's a thread about it but he doesnt actually mention us at all.
 
I have no idea at all if Hiddink is interested in the job but to be fair he wouldn't name us publically now even if he was.
Can't think of a manager who would be classless enough to declare an interest in another man's job before its even available.
 
Re: sack the cunt.

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Only if you take it out of context.
This season we are fighting a battle we may win. ie to finishe fourth.

Last season I knew we wouldn't win the leauge but only because of some big mistakes from our mananger, namely his transfers and team selection.

Its was very painful to watch us get so close to winning the league only to see those cnuts lift no 18.


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You have a losers mentality. You are perfect for this years' team.

Last year we played good football, scored exciting goals, shat all over some quality teams and bitter rivals, and had a chance to win the title, and your confidence we wouldn't do it doesn't change that.

We have shown less this year to suggest we'll get fourth than we did last year to suggest we'd take the title, and we'll certainly have less fun watching it all play out this year, because we are an awful football team at present.
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Ha. I have anything but a losers mentality and that is why I wasn't happy last season as I knew we wouldn't win and anything bar first is not good enough.

We lost last year because we brought in a striker and didn't play him while not bringing in any pace or width. Ultimately it was our lack of creativity and ability to break down the weaker teams that cost us the title and I could see that coming from the day we wasted our budget on Keane.
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If we'd kept Keane from Jan to May last year we would have won the league.
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That's a good point and a strong possibility. Had Keane been around to score just a couple of goals in vital games, who knows

regards
 
Re: sack the cunt.

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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38437.msg1033294#msg1033294 date=1263425296]
Only if you take it out of context.
This season we are fighting a battle we may win. ie to finishe fourth.

Last season I knew we wouldn't win the leauge but only because of some big mistakes from our mananger, namely his transfers and team selection.

Its was very painful to watch us get so close to winning the league only to see those cnuts lift no 18.


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You have a losers mentality. You are perfect for this years' team.

Last year we played good football, scored exciting goals, shat all over some quality teams and bitter rivals, and had a chance to win the title, and your confidence we wouldn't do it doesn't change that.

We have shown less this year to suggest we'll get fourth than we did last year to suggest we'd take the title, and we'll certainly have less fun watching it all play out this year, because we are an awful football team at present.
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Ha. I have anything but a losers mentality and that is why I wasn't happy last season as I knew we wouldn't win and anything bar first is not good enough.

We lost last year because we brought in a striker and didn't play him while not bringing in any pace or width. Ultimately it was our lack of creativity and ability to break down the weaker teams that cost us the title and I could see that coming from the day we wasted our budget on Keane.
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If we'd kept Keane from Jan to May last year we would have won the league.
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That's a good point and a strong possibility. Had Keane been around to score just a couple of goals in vital games, who knows

regards
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Doubt it. When he was with us, he missed some sitters like one when he could simply stuck out his leg rather than do a fancy one right in front of an open goal.
 
He would have clicked at some point and even if he'd weighed in with another 6 or 7 between Jan and May, that alone might have been enough. That said, and I don't solely blame Keane, I still think we lost the league in the first half of the season.
 
I thought we had a fantastic run after Keane left. Most of our draws (that cost us the title) was when Keane was with us. I have not checked the facts and if wrong I stand corrected.
 
[quote author=Glock link=topic=38437.msg1034443#msg1034443 date=1263541561]
Sack Rafa now before its too late. Give Sammy the time to manage until the end of the season.
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Brilliant. Mr Motivator Sammy's really earned the job.
 
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[quote author=Glock link=topic=38437.msg1034443#msg1034443 date=1263541561]
Sack Rafa now before its too late. Give Sammy the time to manage until the end of the season.
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Brilliant. Mr Motivator Sammy's really earned the job.
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My thoughts. But then, this is Glock.
 
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[quote author=Glock link=topic=38437.msg1034443#msg1034443 date=1263541561]
Sack Rafa now before its too late. Give Sammy the time to manage until the end of the season.
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Brilliant. Mr Motivator Sammy's really earned the job.
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My thoughts. But then, this is Glock.
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Or whomever the empty-headed buffoon has cut and pasted.
 
Liverpool say manager Rafa Benitez is not under threat


Rafael Benitez's position is "not on the agenda" despite Liverpool's shock FA Cup defeat by Reading, according to managing director Christian Purslow.

Benitez is under increasing pressure as boss after the loss to the Championship side, an early Champions League exit and poor Premier League form.

Despite his problems, the Spaniard has vowed to fight on at Anfield.

And, in an email to BBC Sport, Purslow reiterated that Benitez has the full support of the club's board.

Former Reds captain Ronnie Whelan believes Benitez should be replaced following the defeat at the hands of the Royals.

Whelan, 48, told BBC Radio 5 live: "He should've gone a long time ago. They have got to do it now.

"Liverpool have not been good. They have lost 10 of the last 20 games.

A disappointing season has left Liverpool having to settle for a Europa League campaign, while lying seventh in the Premier League - 12 points behind leaders Chelsea - but Purslow has always maintained that Benitez's job is not under threat.

The misery continued on Wednesday night when Reading dumped them out of the FA Cup after extra time in front of their home supporters.

It was their 12th defeat of the season and after Benitez told the club's website he would "keep working hard with my team", another ex-Liverpool star expressed his displeasure.

Former Reds and Republic of Ireland midfielder Jason McAteer told LFC TV: "Sometimes you just can't defend that kind of performance. It was poor. Liverpool just didn't really create anything and, to be fair, the better team won."

Liverpool now face the prospect of finishing the campaign without a trophy for the fourth successive season, with any hopes of success hanging on their Europa League efforts.

But with captain and midfielder Steven Gerrard and striker Fernando Torres coming off injured during the Cup defeat, McAteer is fearful for the remainder of the campaign.

"They are the two players who can produce a bit of magic," added the 39-year-old.

"You just look around the team and when those two are not there, who is going to create that bit of magic? Where is that bit of leadership and quality?"

BBC Sport pundit Mark Lawrenson, co-commentator for BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield on Wednesday, also expressed his concerns but believes Benitez's tenure may continue.



"If you take Gerrard and Torres out of the Liverpool team then it is ordinary to say the the least," the 53-year-old told BBC Sport.

"If they spent the season without those two then Liverpool would do well to finish halfway up the table. Obviously a lot of people on the back of last night's defeat are saying that Rafa should go but I don't think he will.

"For a lot of people the defeat by Reading has made their mind up but not the inner workings at the club."

However, Whelan, who made 493 appearances for the Reds and captained them in their 1989 FA Cup final triumph, suggested the club could turn to a former manager as a short-term solution.

"Do they bring in someone until the end of the season? Kenny Dalglish is back at the football club," he stated. "Could he do it until the end of the season and see what happens?" As a player, Dalglish joined Liverpool from Celtic in 1977 and spent six years in charge on Merseyside before leaving in 1991.

Lawrenson believes the Anfield faithful may eventually help to determine Benitez's fate.

"The club have said they will wait and see whether they qualify for the Champions League but there will come a time, especially if they go out of the Europa League early, where the crowd will end up making the decision for the board," he said.

"If you say to Benitez 'thank you but no thank you' then who are you going to get in? Are you going to lose a Gerrard? Or a Torres? That is the most important thing to think about. I think he'll have a stay of execution.

"He has promised the supporters the club will finish in the top four but they look further away from doing that than probably they ever have since he's been there."

However, former Reds striker John Aldridge does not feel that sacking Benitez would benefit the club, even though he admits that the Spaniard has some serious deficiencies to rectify in the side.

"We can turn the tide, I don't think to get rid of Rafa now is the answer," Aldridge told Sky Sports.

"Maybe Rafa has lost some confidence within himself because certainly the team has lost confidence and belief - it is there for everyone to see on the pitch.



"We are not scoring goals as much we should be and we are conceding a lot more than we have been.

"There is perhaps a lack of togetherness on the pitch, if anything.

"But Rafa has got confidence in his own ability. If he didn't, I'm sure he'd walk away to help the club.

"I think Rafa has got to do his best with the team and hopefully we'll get to May, we'll have secured the fourth place and, who knows, maybe won the Europa League."

Benitez, whose contract runs until 2014, arrived at Liverpool from Valencia in 2004 and guided the club to Champions League glory in 2005 and an FA Cup triumph in 2006.

The Reds also reached the Champions League final in 2007 and were runners-up to Manchester United in the Premier League last season.


BBC Sport - Football - Liverpool say manager Rafa Benitez is not under threat
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=38437.msg1034518#msg1034518 date=1263548280]
I thought we had a fantastic run after Keane left. Most of our draws (that cost us the title) was when Keane was with us. I have not checked the facts and if wrong I stand corrected.
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Pretty much Y1.
I think we lost to Boro away in Feb, but after that we were flying.
We didn't win a league match in Jan, we had 3 one all draws.
 
The rumour mill going round at the moment is Rafa has resigned and will be going Monday. Whether it's true of not is completely debatable. If true it's sad but neccesary. I so wanted Rafa to be a massive success at the club but the displays and questionable buys have led to this (if true). I will always believe he loves the club and the city and he always did what's best for us. When a manager comes to the point where they cannot see their own mistakes though and have an apparent inability to put things right and move forwards it's inevitable that parting ways is the only option.
 
It could be absolute bullshit Stu and typical rumour mill nonsense but if true I would imagine to get tomorrows game out the way.
 
Yeah, possibly.
But in the grand scheme of things and all the pressure on him, what does a shitty away game to Stoke City matter? Not much.

I'd be absolutely stunned if he walks away from all that (reported) money.
 
I really really hope that isn't true Sunny.

Despite whatever people may think I'm sure it'll harm our chances of reaching 4th even further.

This Season has been and sadly still is abysmal. It's been a battle to survive almost from the off and the extreme ammount of injuries to key-players has ruined everything half decent.

Excuses, excuses, excuses people say. And they are damn right.

But sometimes excuses are actually valid. No-one would've managed to take us all the way to the top at this stage, baring in mind the ammount of challenges constantly piling up. From injuries to beachballs to goals scored against deep into injurytime.

I can't think of one single Season (maybe apart from the 88/89 Season) where we've rode our bad luck so thorough as has been the case this Season).

I'd be livid if Rafa were to be sacked at this stage. I'd be extremely sad if he left on his own despite whatever the masses on here should think.

Stay Rafa. For know at least.
 
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