Ryan Babel - has he turned the corner?
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Mok - no chance ... he was the only one who tried to stand up for Torres. As Bunny siad in the match thread, it's not his fault he's a pussy. I just hope Rafa puts him in the next league fixture - It will at least let him feel he's got Rafa behind him. Well, and he's far better there than Yossi.
yeah will be interesting to see if babel even makes the bench, rafa may be really pissed at him
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39531.msg1080610#msg1080610 date=1270157555]
Mok - no chance ... he was the only one who tried to stand up for Torres. As Bunny siad in the match thread, it's not his fault he's a pussy. I just hope Rafa puts him in the next league fixture - It will at least let him feel he's got Rafa behind him. Well, and he's far better there than Yossi.
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True.
The players and Rafa will back up Babel. He's suspended in the return leg so I don't see the point in dropping him against Birmingham.
Mok - no chance ... he was the only one who tried to stand up for Torres. As Bunny siad in the match thread, it's not his fault he's a pussy. I just hope Rafa puts him in the next league fixture - It will at least let him feel he's got Rafa behind him. Well, and he's far better there than Yossi.
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True.
The players and Rafa will back up Babel. He's suspended in the return leg so I don't see the point in dropping him against Birmingham.
Why are people saying he didn't deserve a red card?
He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080637#msg1080637 date=1270158601]
Why are people saying he didn't deserve a red card?
He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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well I 'think' we would have performed better with 11 rather than 10 no matter how hapless you think babel is
Why are people saying he didn't deserve a red card?
He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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well I 'think' we would have performed better with 11 rather than 10 no matter how hapless you think babel is
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080637#msg1080637 date=1270158601]
Why are people saying he didn't deserve a red card?
He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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well I 'think' we would have performed better with 11 rather than 10 no matter how hapless you think babel is
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That's why I said not make a lot of difference as opposed to no difference Spidey 😉
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080637#msg1080637 date=1270158601]
Why are people saying he didn't deserve a red card?
He raised his hand to an opponents face not once but fucking twice.
He let everyone down.
Mind you we were lucky he was one of three people who could have been sent off and not make a lot of difference
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well I 'think' we would have performed better with 11 rather than 10 no matter how hapless you think babel is
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That's why I said not make a lot of difference as opposed to no difference Spidey 😉
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I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
Torres does that! You think 'prat' then you forgive him coz 9 times out of 10 he's winning you games.
Babel does it you think 'twat' because he does fuck all else to help the team and is only now playing because Yossi has been injured, Riera has exploded and Aurelio is made out of muscle injuries.
Fuck Ryan Babel. Once again.
Babel does it you think 'twat' because he does fuck all else to help the team and is only now playing because Yossi has been injured, Riera has exploded and Aurelio is made out of muscle injuries.
Fuck Ryan Babel. Once again.
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I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080660#msg1080660 date=1270159323]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080660#msg1080660 date=1270159323]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
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*Looks straight into Dr Macs eyes*
In terms of aggression and logic, no he didn't. In terms of knowing you can not raise your hand to an opponent, particularly right in front of the ref, twice, yes.
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080660#msg1080660 date=1270159323]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
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*Looks straight into Dr Macs eyes*
In terms of aggression and logic, no he didn't. In terms of knowing you can not raise your hand to an opponent, particularly right in front of the ref, twice, yes.
regards
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080660#msg1080660 date=1270159323]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
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*Looks straight into Dr Macs eyes*
In terms of aggression and logic, no he didn't. In terms of knowing you can not raise your hand to an opponent, particularly right in front of the ref, twice, yes.
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So you don't deny having huge feet then?
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080660#msg1080660 date=1270159323]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080649#msg1080649 date=1270159041]
I'm sorry- but the term PROVOCATION used to be used. Was there PROVOCATION? Yer man was coming at him through the fucking ref!!
Babel did not deserve sending off at all.
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He did
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He didnae.
*hooks thumbs under belt and spits on the ground right beside Vlad's huge feet*
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*Looks straight into Dr Macs eyes*
In terms of aggression and logic, no he didn't. In terms of knowing you can not raise your hand to an opponent, particularly right in front of the ref, twice, yes.
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So you don't deny having huge feet then?
That depends if you think UK size 12 is big Doc
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Fucking sussed you, with yer big kebs.
*fold arms*
*fold arms*
It was a red card Doc. You can't do that, particularly right in front of the ref.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=39531.msg1080746#msg1080746 date=1270164203]
It was a red card Doc. You can't do that, particularly right in front of the ref.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
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It was a red, and I think the fact he did it twice made it easy for the ref, but the law is shite. By that reckoning Torres should have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
It was a red card Doc. You can't do that, particularly right in front of the ref.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
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It was a red, and I think the fact he did it twice made it easy for the ref, but the law is shite. By that reckoning Torres should have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we all agree the law is stupid. Especially considering their captain only got booked for kicking lumps out of Nando.
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[quote author=Stu link=topic=39531.msg1080746#msg1080746 date=1270164203]
It was a red card Doc. You can't do that, particularly right in front of the ref.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
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It was a red, and I think the fact he did it twice made it easy for the ref, but the law is shite. By that reckoning Torres should have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
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Torres could have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
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[quote author=Stu link=topic=39531.msg1080746#msg1080746 date=1270164203]
It was a red card Doc. You can't do that, particularly right in front of the ref.
Babel was stupid but I would like Rafa to show good man management and get behind Babel. Try and get some performances from him, he's been doing ok of late. Then if we get another offer of 10mil+, sell the fucker.
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It was a red, and I think the fact he did it twice made it easy for the ref, but the law is shite. By that reckoning Torres should have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
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Torres could have walked for his playful slap to John Terry's face.
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that referee was cunt all night. babel nearly gets his head taken off, no free kick. lucio gets right through the back of torres, yellow. hand in the face, straight red. the cunt (ref)!
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39531.msg1080756#msg1080756 date=1270164772]
that referee was cunt all night. babel nearly gets his head taken off, no free kick. lucio gets right through the back of torres, yellow. hand in the face, straight red. the cunt (ref)!
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He was a cunt Neil, I agree, and the law is poor, but Babel was stupid too, at least in doing it twice. Nice sentiment and all, I know we all want to see him showing more character and fight, but that was once again a bit brainless, even if his heart was obviously in the right place.
that referee was cunt all night. babel nearly gets his head taken off, no free kick. lucio gets right through the back of torres, yellow. hand in the face, straight red. the cunt (ref)!
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He was a cunt Neil, I agree, and the law is poor, but Babel was stupid too, at least in doing it twice. Nice sentiment and all, I know we all want to see him showing more character and fight, but that was once again a bit brainless, even if his heart was obviously in the right place.
It's like taking shirts off in celebration, or running to the crowd, or kicking the ball away as a reaction, and getting booked for them, it's daft in most vases , but everyone knows the rules.
The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
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The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080760#msg1080760 date=1270164970]
It's like taking shirts off in celebration, or running to the crowd, or kicking the ball away as a reaction, and getting booked for them, it's daft in most vases , but everyone knows the rules.
The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
regards
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its true, there was no bias with his incompetence as agger could and probably should have walked for his CONSTANT moaning.
It's like taking shirts off in celebration, or running to the crowd, or kicking the ball away as a reaction, and getting booked for them, it's daft in most vases , but everyone knows the rules.
The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
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its true, there was no bias with his incompetence as agger could and probably should have walked for his CONSTANT moaning.
Aliadeire (sp?) got sent off a cheeky slap on Mash last year, maybe the season before. I don't remember these boards lighting up too much about it. He raised his hand and was sent off, rules are rules.
As Peatcheo says , he did get most of the big ones right.
Although I think the guy could have gone for hacking Torres.
There was some inconsistancy too, the foul that Insua got carded for was very mild, compared to a second bookable offence by the Curly haired guy (was that Luiz?) late on on the far side of their box went unpunished
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Although I think the guy could have gone for hacking Torres.
There was some inconsistancy too, the foul that Insua got carded for was very mild, compared to a second bookable offence by the Curly haired guy (was that Luiz?) late on on the far side of their box went unpunished
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[quote author=Stu link=topic=39531.msg1080764#msg1080764 date=1270165293]
Aliadeire (sp?) got sent off a cheeky slap on Mash last year, maybe the season before. I don't remember these boards lighting up too much about it. He raised his hand and was sent off, rules are rules.
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Stu, I have been arguing it for the past half hour, I think it's sinking in now 😉.
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Aliadeire (sp?) got sent off a cheeky slap on Mash last year, maybe the season before. I don't remember these boards lighting up too much about it. He raised his hand and was sent off, rules are rules.
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Stu, I have been arguing it for the past half hour, I think it's sinking in now 😉.
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080760#msg1080760 date=1270164970]
It's like taking shirts off in celebration, or running to the crowd, or kicking the ball away as a reaction, and getting booked for them, it's daft in most vases , but everyone knows the rules.
The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
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its true, there was no bias with his incompetence as agger could and probably should have walked for his CONSTANT moaning.
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That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39531.msg1080760#msg1080760 date=1270164970]
It's like taking shirts off in celebration, or running to the crowd, or kicking the ball away as a reaction, and getting booked for them, it's daft in most vases , but everyone knows the rules.
The problem with the raising the hand bit is ......when is it a playful slap and at what point does it become a punch ?
So to get over all the debate players do not put their hands near opposition players faces....simples
The ref was poor....oh Neil, you forgot about Carra trying to take the chaps shoulder out of his socket in the area, he missed stuff on both sides
regards
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its true, there was no bias with his incompetence as agger could and probably should have walked for his CONSTANT moaning.
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That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080824#msg1080824 date=1270195341]
That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
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To be fair the Benfica players were extremly good at making them look like fouls.
The feckin cheats.
That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
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To be fair the Benfica players were extremly good at making them look like fouls.
The feckin cheats.
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080824#msg1080824 date=1270195341]
That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
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To be fair the Benfica players were extremly good at making them look like fouls.
The feckin cheats.
[/quote]Agger was/is fucking epic. Id like him to be our captain.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39531.msg1080824#msg1080824 date=1270195341]
That's because the ref misread a number of fantastic tackles by Agger as fouls.
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To be fair the Benfica players were extremly good at making them look like fouls.
The feckin cheats.
[/quote]Agger was/is fucking epic. Id like him to be our captain.
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