Not a clue Keni. He brought Neven Subotic with him from Mainz I think though. That's an obvious one he had influence over.
I don't know much about Klopp bar the man we see on the sidelines and that he made Dortmund competitive playing nice football.
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Not a clue Keni. He brought Neven Subotic with him from Mainz I think though. That's an obvious one he had influence over.
I don't know much about Klopp bar the man we see on the sidelines and that he made Dortmund competitive playing nice football.
Good point. But I think Messi is a difference maker. I wonder if Barca's strategy will pay such dividends once her retires or slows down.
According to Honigstein, Zorc who is the Sporting Director handled all the transfers bar Subotic I think.
Thats how Klopp wants the set up aswell according to him.
Maybe he's the one we ought to be recruiting?
I'm not as bothered as a lot of others seem to be about Klopp's ability in the transfer market. It's his ability to get the best out of the players he would have here at his disposal I am more interested in. I think a scarecrow from a farmers field would probably have as much chance of getting the current squad of players to tick as Rodgers. I don't think personally, that they are a bad bunch of players, but we need a manager / coach who they will put their faith in and that is clearly not the man at the helm right now.
It's not an issue until it becomes an issue. There's no point looking at BR's flaws and just searching for a polar opposite, or going for someone who has apparent flaws that we can just ignore for now.
So we bring him and he gets the best out our squad for now. What then? What happens when we need to buy to improve further? People will be calling for his head, because unless he dramatically changes to a guy who can spot talent of his own accord, we'll be swapping one set of issues for another. The ability to get teams playing regardless of talent will only get you so far, look at how Klopp performed when starved of a few big name players.
If you bring Klopp in, bring in a DoF with a proven record and get it right, otherwise don't bother.
So we bring him and he gets the best out our squad for now. What then? What happens when we need to buy to improve further? People will be calling for his head, because unless he dramatically changes to a guy who can spot talent of his own accord, we'll be swapping one set of issues for another. The ability to get teams playing regardless of talent will only get you so far, look at how Klopp performed when starved of a few big name players.
If you bring Klopp in, bring in a DoF with a proven record and get it right, otherwise don't bother.
I'm fine with that if it is what is needed. If he gets this squad playing and we move up the table and play attractive football, what happens Mark, is other players who maybe wouldn't have looked sideways at us will maybe think they fancy coming to us. Look at the alternative, we do nothing, we carry on sinking slowly, and these sorts of players give us a very wide berth and rightly so.
Short term improvement would at least be something. We can't really manage to fuck up our transfers anymore than we previously have been either. The team looks worse than it did when Rodgers took over, which is unacceptable. We're 5 games into his 4th season and we've had maybe 30 minutes of good football and all absolute tripe for the rest.
Yeah I know mate. I'm not saying we do nothing, there just seems to be this overly simplistic way of looking at it at the minute - we lack cohesion and togetherness at the moment, ergo bring in a manager that will get the current crop playing as a "team". That's fine within itself, I'm just saying we need to look at the broader picture. As in, someone with a track record of winning as well as identifying and attracting big name players. That's a tall ask I know, but the other way of looking at it is if Klopp doesn't take to the Premiership, what does he have in his locker to bail him out? I'm not sure he's that big a name to rely on bringing in quality if all else fails, not that I want someone who relies on being able to spend his way out of trouble either, but you get the picture, I want balance.
The Liverpool way is the main reason to why we are so far behind United. Moores gets a lot of stick but all he did was that he didn't changed. He stood still and did nothing. He didn't want to the club to be about money. If you want us be The Liverpool Way then we will soon play in the championship.
The Liverpool Way is a big no, no in todays top class football.
Todays top class football is all about money. We don't have mega rich owners so the only way we can compete is if we can sign a new Suarez on the cheap or play in the CL every season. The new Suarez on the cheap must also stay fit year after year.
CL football every year is a must for us. It won't hurt clubs as United, Chelsea, City or Arsenal if they miss out a season but for us every season we miss out on the CL money is a big blow. That is why FSG can't risk that we drop to far behind a top four place. Top four is almost a must this season. How much is a CL place worth for us? If it is say £50m then we would missed out on £100m the last two seasons if we miss out on a CL place again. £100m is a lot of money, money that our rivals get instead and we are left even further behind.
That is the reason to why Rodgers could be sacked if we don't get at least four points in our next two games. Three of our rivals could be almost out of reach after seven games. That leaves only one CL qualification place to fight for and that after seven games.
As other fans pointed out our last 15 games is relegation form and nothing points to that it will suddenly change. If we had played good and lost then you could say that we will soon win games and move up the table but we have been lucky to have even seven points, lucky.
Rodgers plays a rookie central defender as left back. He plays Ings and Firmino out of position.
Rodgers isn't the only problem at the club. Sometimes you must sign 27+ year old players for £40m even that we won't make a profit in the future if we sell the player later. If those players help the club to qualify for the CL then they are good value signings. FSG must understand that. If they don't understand that then we have no chance even if we signed up the best manager in the world.
The Liverpool Way is a big no, no in todays top class football.
Todays top class football is all about money. We don't have mega rich owners so the only way we can compete is if we can sign a new Suarez on the cheap or play in the CL every season. The new Suarez on the cheap must also stay fit year after year.
CL football every year is a must for us. It won't hurt clubs as United, Chelsea, City or Arsenal if they miss out a season but for us every season we miss out on the CL money is a big blow. That is why FSG can't risk that we drop to far behind a top four place. Top four is almost a must this season. How much is a CL place worth for us? If it is say £50m then we would missed out on £100m the last two seasons if we miss out on a CL place again. £100m is a lot of money, money that our rivals get instead and we are left even further behind.
That is the reason to why Rodgers could be sacked if we don't get at least four points in our next two games. Three of our rivals could be almost out of reach after seven games. That leaves only one CL qualification place to fight for and that after seven games.
As other fans pointed out our last 15 games is relegation form and nothing points to that it will suddenly change. If we had played good and lost then you could say that we will soon win games and move up the table but we have been lucky to have even seven points, lucky.
Rodgers plays a rookie central defender as left back. He plays Ings and Firmino out of position.
Rodgers isn't the only problem at the club. Sometimes you must sign 27+ year old players for £40m even that we won't make a profit in the future if we sell the player later. If those players help the club to qualify for the CL then they are good value signings. FSG must understand that. If they don't understand that then we have no chance even if we signed up the best manager in the world.
I thought it was about winning things and not being shit.
Well, we losing and playing shit. The defence ins't working, the midfield and attack the same. If you look at us this season then we play in the same way as Villa did with Lambert as manager, Benteke totally isolated upfront.
He signed them as well, and by his own reasoning they should by know be used to the system.... but instead of showing what the system is all about they have been replaced by next bunch who will be confused Long enough that it is worth replacing them.
He could have signed three or four players instead. Quality before quantity but the problem is when he sign quality like Firmino then he play the player out of position. The result is poor performances by the player and lost confidence. Markovic and Firmino is £50m down the drain because of one man, Rodgers. I count the Firmino money down the drain as long as Rodgers is our manager because he will never get the chance to show how great he is as a number 10 week in week out. He will be played out wide. Of course Markovic didn't show up last season because he almost always played as a wing back. Ings is a goal poacher that is played out wide. More wasted money. It took Rodgers five games to make Gomez look shit because he plays as a left back. What you see now is a player that is so afraid to make a mistake that he don't want the ball and when he gets it he panics. Gomez isn't shit, he is a central defender, not a left back.
Rodgers is a clown.
How long time before the majority of our fans begins to hate him? A lot of us fans already hates him, probably not a majority yet but it won't take long if we continue to play relegation football.
I don't hate him, I don't respect him. Fans already leave 10-15 minutes early. I would say that more than 80% of us fans want him sacked as soon as possible. A lot of us don't hate him, they just want us to get rid of the clown. The big majority of us fans have lost all respect for him.
I don't hate him, I don't respect him. Fans already leave 10-15 minutes early. I would say that more than 80% of us fans want him sacked as soon as possible. A lot of us don't hate him, they just want us to get rid of the clown. The big majority of us fans have lost all respect for him.
No because he clearly signed Firmino to play out wide, He plays Benteke totally isolated upfront. You could call them quality if the manager played them in the right position.
Oh I dunno. It's kinda entertaining. Arn doesn't hate him but he doesn't respect him. Apparently a lot of fans already hate him however a lot of fans don't hate him.
Also Firmino is a quality sign but not quality because he's played out wide. Markovic didn't show up last season but he's a quality sign but both points are moot because he was played out of position. Anyhow, Rodgers is a clown - that point was made several times.
You've basically nailed his history on the site in one post.
Kudos.
I dont see him getting sacked. I dont think FSG are smart enough or understand football enough to get where this is going.
We will win a few games now and it will be fine for them.
I think we would need to lose 4 or 5 on the spin for him to get sacked.
We lost to Villa, Hull, Palace and Stoke at the end of last season to lose any chance of Champions league football and STILL they didnt sack him and gave him 100m cash to spend. Now we are 2pts off third place. Why would they sack him.
We will win a few games now and it will be fine for them.
I think we would need to lose 4 or 5 on the spin for him to get sacked.
We lost to Villa, Hull, Palace and Stoke at the end of last season to lose any chance of Champions league football and STILL they didnt sack him and gave him 100m cash to spend. Now we are 2pts off third place. Why would they sack him.
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