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Reds agree Mascherano fee

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[quote author=DHSC link=topic=41624.msg1163399#msg1163399 date=1282893581]
Some reports say that a 16m pound bid was rejected last weekend and that the agreed bid is 'believed to be closer to the 25m GBP valuation'.
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Even 25 million is too low in my estimates, but 16 million is a fucking joke.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41624.msg1163403#msg1163403 date=1282894300]
I feel ill.
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**offers Doc a paper bag**
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41624.msg1163370#msg1163370 date=1282889950]
I actually had some sympathy for his situation, he'd been promised he could go and this shoud have been sorted out months ago.

But even if he felt he had to do what he did against Citeh, it was a shitty thing to to do and it cost us.

So, thanks and all and fuck off.
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I agree, or should I just say "This"

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41624.msg1163407#msg1163407 date=1282894654]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41624.msg1163370#msg1163370 date=1282889950]
I actually had some sympathy for his situation, he'd been promised he could go and this shoud have been sorted out months ago.

But even if he felt he had to do what he did against Citeh, it was a shitty thing to to do and it cost us.

So, thanks and all and fuck off.
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I agree, or should I just say "This"

regards
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hahahaha! another pompous git like me!
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41624.msg1163385#msg1163385 date=1282892426]
Ah fuck.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckety fuck fuck.

I was convinced he would go, but kept lying to myself that no deal would be arranged & he'd be forced to stay.

Now if we lose Stevie through injury we have one of the worst central midfields in the top half of the league.

SHITE!
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Without Stevie....It's on par with the Nicky Butt/Joey Barton combo that took Newcastle down...

We are short of one quality CM (Should be very mobile), One quality LB, One quality wide-midfield player and one good striker....

We go into the season with a very very thin squad. But i would still prefer that Roy addresses one position at a time and instead of flooding it with 4 average players to make up the numbers.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41624.msg1163403#msg1163403 date=1282894300]
I feel ill.
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Yeah, me too.

We're losing one of our best players, for a pittance..and we're playing horribly.

I'd gone into the season a little optimistic; I hoped Hodgson would do the one thing Rafa wouldnt, and that was to fix obvious weaknesses left unrectified for years.

But he seems to be repeating Rafa's mistakes.

Granted, we have a load of shit players left over but we could at least use the shit players as best we could.

It's too depressing to think about.
 
There shouldn't be too much to talk about seeing that Masher has already agreed a deal with Barcelona?
 
£16 mil - the cunts fucked us over doubly now. Little goofy twat - fuck off and dont expect a warm welcome when you come back.
 
i think it'd be somewhere near the 20M mark, 13M + 5M add on's is way too low, and we wouldnt sell for that low. Atleast i hope not
 
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41624.msg1163421#msg1163421 date=1282895955]
i think it'd be somewhere near the 20M mark, 13M + 5M add on's is way too low, and we wouldnt sell for that low. Atleast i hope not
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I doubt it. Once Mascher made it clear he wouldnt play we were fucked.

Keep him & dont play him (let him rot), we lose his value cos he walks on a free next summer, or sell him for the best fee we can get now.

Hobsons choice.

Once he made that decision it meant we couldnt negotiate properly, simple as that.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41624.msg1163417#msg1163417 date=1282895528]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41624.msg1163403#msg1163403 date=1282894300]
I feel ill.
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Yeah, me too.

We're losing one of our best players, for a pittance..and we're playing horribly.

I'd gone into the season a little optimistic; I hoped Hodgson would do the one thing Rafa wouldnt, and that was to fix obvious weaknesses left unrectified for years.

But he seems to be repeating Rafa's mistakes.

Granted, we have a load of shit players left over but we could at least use the shit players as best we could.

It's too depressing to think about.
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I think it's a bit early to say that Avvy, as you said yourself earlier Mascher could have made a big difference in the City game.
Cole has not had a chance to show yet, and Torres is still on his way back. Lets see if Roy has been left any time to get players in and see what happens over the next three or four weeks.
We did well against Arsenal, had a mare against City and got through a tricky Europa qualifier with half a team in both legs.
I hope the board give him the full money including the add-ons up front to give him half a chance.



regards
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41624.msg1163423#msg1163423 date=1282896093]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41624.msg1163421#msg1163421 date=1282895955]
i think it'd be somewhere near the 20M mark, 13M + 5M add on's is way too low, and we wouldnt sell for that low. Atleast i hope not
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I doubt it. Once Mascher made it clear he wouldnt play we were fucked.

Keep him & dont play him (let him rot), we lose his value cos he walks on a free next summer, or sell him for the best fee we can get now.

Hobsons choice.

Once he made that decision it meant we couldnt negotiate properly, simple as that.
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I think the real problem was lack of suitors. If two or three teams had really needed a defensive midfielder it would have been a different matter as it was Barca knew they were in the driving seat and shafted us, we would have done just the same

regards
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41624.msg1163423#msg1163423 date=1282896093]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41624.msg1163421#msg1163421 date=1282895955]
i think it'd be somewhere near the 20M mark, 13M + 5M add on's is way too low, and we wouldnt sell for that low. Atleast i hope not
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I doubt it. Once Mascher made it clear he wouldnt play we were fucked.

Keep him & dont play him (let him rot), we lose his value cos he walks on a free next summer, or sell him for the best fee we can get now.

Hobsons choice.

Once he made that decision it meant we couldnt negotiate properly, simple as that.
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2 years left on his deal i thought? if it's 1 year this isn't such a bad price.
 
Don't worry boys, things are finally looking up!

“When the ball hits your head,
And your sat in row Z..

That’s Zamoraâ€
 
Spanish media are saying 13 mill £ + 4,9 mill £ in add ons. Thats a shite deal, and hopefully we'll get a bit for than that.

But as Jon said, when he decided to not play we were pretty much fucked. Something has to be done with player power.
 
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41624.msg1163431#msg1163431 date=1282896396]
Don't worry boys, things are finally looking up!

“When the ball hits your head,
And your sat in row Z..

That’s Zamoraâ€

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Eh, I'd take him these days, he looks like a good player now.
 
The minute he refused to play against City, we should have played hardball and let him rot.

What is it with us getting shafted on transfers?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41624.msg1163433#msg1163433 date=1282896585]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41624.msg1163431#msg1163431 date=1282896396]
Don't worry boys, things are finally looking up!

“When the ball hits your head,
And your sat in row Z..

That’s Zamoraâ€

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Eh, I'd take him these days, he looks like a good player now.
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And we're a lesser team, sadly.
 
Sky Sports’ Guillem Balague understands that Barca will pay Liverpool an initial £16million for Mascherano, with a further £6million depending on performances and future success. (Sky Sports)
 
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41624.msg1163427#msg1163427 date=1282896240]
Even with all of the money Vlad, he hasn't got a lot of time to go to the market.
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I would like to think they had targets lined up ready and deals half done for when the time came, it's not as if it only happened today, this has been coming for twelve months or more. I am amazed he never went last January.


I think its actually 20 months, on his contract which is less than two years and effectively means one full transfer window after Tuesday

Its just a symptom of our position, if we were in the position we were 20 years ago, we could have afforded to let him rot and brave it out, we aren't unfortunately, but our day will come again.

I can't help thinking we are talking pounds and everyone else is talking Euro's


regards
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41624.msg1163433#msg1163433 date=1282896585]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41624.msg1163431#msg1163431 date=1282896396]
Don't worry boys, things are finally looking up!

“When the ball hits your head,
And your sat in row Z..

That’s Zamoraâ€

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Eh, I'd take him these days, he looks like a good player now.
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Yeah hopefully Torres does the decent thing and gives up the no. 9 shirt.

Nah you are right mark, hes been great last couple of season to be fair...Just not the world class player we were looking for.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41624.msg1163438#msg1163438 date=1282896692]
Sky Sports’ Guillem Balague understands that Barca will pay Liverpool an initial £16million for Mascherano, with a further £6million depending on performances and future success. (Sky Sports)
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That is not as bad we think. Potentially 22m pounds. In Barca the chance of the potential is not bad.
 
hardball

Its a shame Mascherano ruined his reputation with the fans. I would have accepted him leaving this summer but not after refusing to play.

At least with add-ons, if youre going to have any club with add-on bonuses, you'd want barcelona
 
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