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Reina - 7 - made one great save on Adebayor, and was solid

Carra - 7 - solid
Skrtel - 8 - MOTM
Agger - 5 - his weakest performance in a long time. He's lucky Skrtel picked this game to have his best performance in a long time.
Insua - 5 - played better in the 2nd half but was very poor in the 1st half

Lucas - 4 - I know Ryan rates him but this was this was one of the worst performances I've seen from a Liverpool CM in quite some time. I cannot believe he can see 90 minutes in a game he performed so poorly - it just begs the question, what the hell was Rafa watching?
Mascherano - 7 - a solid game but lucky not to get sent off

Babel - 5.5 - I don't think Babel played that badly, one bad pass but he tried, and got stuck in.
Gerrard - 7 - really made an effort and it's just sad that you watch him and feel sorry for him.
Maxi - 5.5 - I don't think he did anything too bad or good. If he can adjust to the league, I think he can be a nice addition to our squad

Kuyt - 6 - wasn't bad, wasn't great. We need Kuyt to get back onto his good patch of form and quick.

Subs:

Yossi - 6.5 - He'll add some creativity from the left (he'll be shit there though)/right, we've missed him.
Torres - N/A - Welcome back, the key to the Champions League rests with you
Aquilani - N/A - if only that shot wasn't blocked.

Ref - I thought he was excellent BAR the yellow cards. It seemed a bit odd that he was so excited to give them to us but didn't give them to deserving Citeh players, like Given for example.

Poor match, ok result. At least it seems we're getting healthy.
 
Agree pretty much, although I'd give Skittles a 9 and Masher an 8.
 
I thought Insua was pretty good actually. The hate campaign gives him horrible scores even though plays a decent game.
 
A dreadful game, both sides were awful going forward. The team Benitez picked did exactly as I predicted - fuck all. He needs sacking.

Reina (7) Some smart saves

Carra (6). Another solid display at RB
Skittles (7). So poor in the air, but very good on the deck. Showing some good form
Agger (4). A liability today. I can see that he's trying to compensate for the shitcunt playig in front of him, but he tried too much coming forward and gave it away too often. Needs to remember that he isn't anywhere near as good as Alan Hansen, so shouldn't try and play like him.
Insewer (4). Was a fucking disgrace in the first half, but much improved after that. Luckily. Why wasn't Aurelio playing? He's miles better than this fat waster

The Invisible Cunt (0). Fuck off. You massive useless fucking cunt
Masher (7). Probably fortunate to escape greater censure with some of his challenges, but a good display
Maxi (4). Fucking pointless. Slow, did fuck all. Great stuff.
Babel (5). We need much, much more from Babel if he is going to start games
Gerrard (6). The only player on the pitch who can pass, run, shoot *and* tackle. Not great by his standards, but head and fucking shoulders over most.

Kuyt (5). Pretty ordinary again.
 
Gerrard was extremely bleak. Agger had probably his worst game in a red-shirt passing-wise. Extremely sloppy and headless at times. Did ok I reckon in the area but it was his partner at the back who stole the lime-light.

Insua and Lucas wasn't anywhere near as bad as once again been made out on this site. Oh the predictability.

Reina - 8

Insua - 6
Agger - 5
Skrtel 9
Carragher - 7

Masher 8
Lucas 7

Gerrard 6
Babel 6
Maxi 5

Kuuy 5
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38989.msg1057545#msg1057545 date=1266772708]
Gerrard was extremely bleak. Agger had probably his worst game in a red-shirt passing-wise. Extremely sloppy and headless at times. Did ok I reckon in the area but it was his partner at the back who stole the lime-light.

Insua and Lucas wasn't anywhere near as bad as once again been made out on this site. Oh the predictability.

Reina - 8

Insua - 6
Agger - 5
Skrtel 9
Carragher - 7

Masher 8
Lucas 7

Gerrard 6
Babel 6
Maxi 5

Kuuy 5
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agree with this except lucas 6, mascher 6, skrytel and reina should have a 7 rather than a 9, still motm
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38989.msg1057545#msg1057545 date=1266772708]
Gerrard was extremely bleak. Agger had probably his worst game in a red-shirt passing-wise. Extremely sloppy and headless at times. Did ok I reckon in the area but it was his partner at the back who stole the lime-light.

Insua and Lucas wasn't anywhere near as bad as once again been made out on this site. Oh the predictability.

Reina - 8

Insua - 6
Agger - 5
Skrtel 9
Carragher - 7

Masher 8
Lucas 7

Gerrard 6
Babel 6
Maxi 5

Kuuy 5
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7 for Lucas is incredibly generous. He was woeful today.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38989.msg1057545#msg1057545 date=1266772708]
Insua and Lucas wasn't anywhere near as bad as once again been made out on this site. Oh the predictability.
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I rate Insua, and think Lucas should be our 4th midfielder. That I feel either way hasn't 'impacted' on my ratings - both had poor games.

There's a problem with Liverpool when far too often we get into GOOD positions, we pass the ball backwards. How often do you see that? Bring on Yossi or Babel or Torres, and suddenly, the ball gets pushed up front and dangerous situations occur. Oh well, I guess it's safe.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38989.msg1057545#msg1057545 date=1266772708]
Gerrard was extremely bleak. Agger had probably his worst game in a red-shirt passing-wise. Extremely sloppy and headless at times. Did ok I reckon in the area but it was his partner at the back who stole the lime-light.

Insua and Lucas wasn't anywhere near as bad as once again been made out on this site. Oh the predictability.

Reina - 8

Insua - 6
Agger - 5
Skrtel 9
Carragher - 7

Masher 8
Lucas 7

Gerrard 6
Babel 6
Maxi 5

Kuuy 5
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You honestly think Lucas was better than Gerrard? At what, exactly?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=38989.msg1057589#msg1057589 date=1266775152]
Haha, oh dear.
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okay, I rephrase that, excellent by his standards.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38989.msg1057593#msg1057593 date=1266775557]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=38989.msg1057589#msg1057589 date=1266775152]
Haha, oh dear.
[/quote]

okay, I rephrase that, excellent by his standards.
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Ha, not you Spidey. That was meant for the KHL, who's clearly stoned.
 
i love the way our january freebie has precedence over 10 million pound riera straight off the bat. i don't love it really.
 
Riera was less than that, but you're right about Maxi.

Bar the odd nice touch you often have to remind yourself he's on the pitch.
 
I do not understand why some here give Gerrard such a high rating. He is as bad/good as Lucas today, no more than a 6. He has been like this for a couple of matches this season and his body language definitely does not seems right.

Maxi - Invisible
Agger - Nearly cost us
Skrtel - Best game I have seen him in a red shirt
Mash - Probably the MoM along with Skrtel

I agree with one poster, once Yossi and Fernando are on the field, immediately we look more like a threat than like a cat.

Come on, March is coming and we don't have many matches left, let's take some risk on those player, ok ?
 
Absolute bollocks.

Rewatch the first half. Every delivery was spot on. His set pieces were amazing. His link up play was decent, but was frequently let down by being surrounded by inferior players. He also made two decent chances for himself with nice shimmy's, but was forced onto his left foot on both occasions.

He wasn't at his very best, but he was still a cut above most players on the park.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=38989.msg1057630#msg1057630 date=1266781096]
Absolute bollocks.

Rewatch the first half. Every delivery was spot on. His set pieces were amazing. His link up play was decent, but was frequently let down by being surrounded by inferior players. He also made two decent chances for himself with nice shimmy's, but was forced onto his left foot on both occasions.

He wasn't at his very best, but he was still a cut above most players on the park.
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Yep - first half, Stevie played well. Second half, he disappeared, but I think that was just tiredness (we played Thursday, City didn't) rather than a bad attitude or whatever.
 
Courtesy of mr Frogfish:

Anyways :

Firstly let me say how shocked I was to read Dee, Bunnyman & of all people Sunny slamming Babel (and not having the grace to correct themselves later) when he quite clearly got hammered straight in the head by the ball from 7 yards away yet got slagged off big-time by those three. I'm not a Babel supporter but that was clearly unwarranted. Secondly the negativity on this board is really pissing me off (even though I'm having to post through Pete's good will at the moment), Squiggles was absolutely right, you are an incredibly negative lot - maybe too many poor showings this season have you seeing ghosts everywhere but ....... We were away at a team having spent more in the last year than we have in the last three, that are above us in the league, that had beaten United, Chelsea and Arsenal at and had only been held twice there .. and yet we had by far the better of the match, restricted them to a single off-target goal in the first half and had the better of possession, shots and chances (rare though they were) in the match as a whole. As for Halmeister's comment that Rafa had put out a negative team (and tactics and subs etc. ) and clearly got the point he came for ...... did he even watch the game !?!?! That was just BS. I thought we actually looked like and definitely were trying to win it more than they did. And as far as being boring, I thought it was an engrossing tactical battle.

Reina : 7 - great save and looked safe as houses for 99% of the game.
Insua : 6 - he didn't have anywhere near as bad a match as most on here are saying. Yet again once this board makes their mind up they don't like someone (be it Lucas, Babel or Insua) then nothing is going to save them bar a 5 minute hat-trick. Johnson has probably some of the trickiest feet in the EPL yet Insua scrapped through and in the second half Johnson was virtually completely ineffective.
Agger - 5 - I like Agger but he did nothing of note and made I think it was 3 horrendous errors of judgement. He was lucky to get away with his mistakes today.
Skirtel - 8 - MoM - a superb display by Skrtel, reminding us why we rated him so highly last season. His only error (and a poor one) was not getting a free header on target.
Carra - 6.5 - not a classic performance but he managed to hold his own against a variety of City marauders down our right. Very little hoofing too - highly creditable.
Masherano - 7.5 - covered every blade of grass and was always available and looking to kick start our attacks. A few errors here and there but overall another tremendous display. Please God I hope we don't have to let him go in the Summer (though I'm near certain we will).
Lucas - 6.5 - again bullied on the forum but he and Masher were up against a more than competent midfield pairing of Barry & De Jong who didn't get a look in. And for the record I counted at least 6 attacking passes from Lucas (that found their man) of between 20 and 40 yards. He will never be a play-maker but some of the criticism is pathetic.
Maxi - 5 - his body seems a lot slower than his mind. He clearly hasn't yet adapted to the EPL and I thought that until Nando came on our attacking players were plodding through the game and that was part of the reason the MF couldn't find our semi-static forward line.
Gerrard - 7 (by his standards maybe a 6) - good first half and for once almost every set piece was ended up as a good cross, but failed to make any impact in the 2nd and TBH I'm beginning to think we are not going to see him at his very best at all this season. Hope that's not the case.
Kuyt - 6.5 - gave the ball away far less than usual but it seems is virtually impossible of taking players on to keep attacks going ... usually the ball ended up being pinged back into our midfield (Maxi, Babel and to an extent Gerrard were all just as culpable in this regard).
Babel - 6 - can't be blamed too much for failing to make it happen as he didn't see enough of the ball, but as mentioned above he didn't help himself in this regard by failing to make the runs. Could have done better but could also have done a lot worse .... I thought he really looked like he was trying for most of his time on the pitch.

Subs : Benny - not his usual self, had he gone down in the best he may have earned a penalty. Torres - showed the forward line what it takes to create space and panic in a massed defence with his moment (all over the front line), pace and determination in the 20 mins he was on. Aquilani - a few nice passes and a couple that went astray. Almost every one was played forward though.

Rafa - 7 - right team, right tactics. We will always (with this squad) look light up front without Nando on the pitch though. A little more luck and we may have taken the 3 points (Yossi should have gone down - he was fouled. Just too honest) !

Overall we deserved more from the game but maybe not quite enough to win. It was the usual, a lack of creativity and this often caused by the forwards lack of moment and pinging the ball back into midfield when they did get it instead of trying to take the defender and create something themselves. We are very ponderous at times but it's great to see the defence have really got their confidence back again. Considering everything we've been subjected to this season however this was another step in the right direction.

Mom
1. Skrtel
2. Masherano
3. Reina
 
As I didn't see the game I only feel qualified to adjudge Lucas's performance.............

Lucas - 3
 
Chill out Frogfish. What I said was 'Babel showing his usual guts and fortitude'. If you think he's usually a strong, brave kind of guy, then you'd have to take that as a compliment, wouldn't you?
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=38989.msg1057818#msg1057818 date=1266829785]
As I didn't see the game I only feel qualified to adjudge Lucas's performance.............

Lucas - 3
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Ha ha. How about 'N/A'?

I think there should be a standard format whereby Lucas' rating is completed in advance (-3 or 4 or 'N/A') and the remainder of the players assessed around it. What I fail to understand is that Insua was given a 4 rating, yet we kept a clean sheet? I didn't see the game, can someone explain that to me?

Also when Gerrard has a shit game, why is he generally excused as having to endure the ordeal of playing with the dross around him?
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=38989.msg1057821#msg1057821 date=1266830732]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=38989.msg1057818#msg1057818 date=1266829785]
As I didn't see the game I only feel qualified to adjudge Lucas's performance.............

Lucas - 3
[/quote]

Ha ha. How about 'N/A'?

I think there should be a standard format whereby Lucas' rating is completed in advance (-3 or 4 or 'N/A') and the remainder of the players assessed around it. What I fail to understand is that Insua was given a 4 rating, yet we kept a clean sheet? I didn't see the game, can someone explain that to me?

Also when Gerrard has a shit game, why is he generally excused as having to endure the ordeal of playing with the dross around him?
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Hahaha... Spot on.
 
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