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RAFA ON OFFERS, FAN FRUSTRATION AND MORE

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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000313#msg1000313 date=1259340359]
*yawns*
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C'mon Gerry let's humour him.

Are we playing shite now? - yes.
Are we in a bad run of form lately? - yes
Have we had some unbelievable amount of bad luck? - yes
Do we have a unbelievable amount of injuries? - yes
When we get first team back, will we be playing better? - very possibly
Can we win the FA Cup this season? - yes
Can we win the Europa Cup this season? - yes
Can we still mathematically win the PL? - yes

All of the above and, at the same point in the respective seasons, we're more or less equal in stature than the team in 2004, who at their very best struggled in the league with the best players available.

The team has improved - TRUFAX
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
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So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
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We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
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So, you expect us to finish 5th or worse and 33 points or more behind the league winners, do you?
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000316#msg1000316 date=1259340678]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
[/quote]

So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
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We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
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So, you expect us to finish 5th or worse and 33 points or more behind the league winners, do you?
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Its not impossible honestly.
I still think we can finish 4th though... Which would not be good enough.
Houiller was sacked after finishing 4th. I dont care about the points amount
It shouldnt be different for Rafa, esp after 6 years.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000316#msg1000316 date=1259340678]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
[/quote]

So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
[/quote]
We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
[/quote]

So, you expect us to finish 5th or worse and 33 points or more behind the league winners, do you?
[/quote]

Fate well and truly tempted.
 
Houllier was not sacked for finishing 4th, it was down to the fact that no progression could be seen. And it should never be that simplistic anyway.

Like planning to sack a manger in 6 months time, because his results after 13 games are not significantly better than his first season.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=37486.msg1000310#msg1000310 date=1259340231]
I'm not of the opinion that we've suddenly regressed some six years in one autumn but our defence looks absolutely horrific at the moment. That's one thing we never had to worry about under Houllier.
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We've never really had to worry about it under Rafa either... till now.
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
[/quote]

So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
[/quote]
We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
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Lech, that's even more biased than one of Rage's posts, get a grip eh?

Gerrard, Riise, Hyypia, Hamann and Finnan, that was it. We now have Torres, Mascher, Agger, Reina, Kuyt and Yossi. We've also had Garcia, Crouch, Alonso. So this is just bollocks really, and Brendan, Skrtel had a great first season or so, the whole defence have been shite and leaked goals all season, and Eggnog is miles better than you give credit for.
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000219#msg1000219 date=1259337122]

He just sounds like a broken record.
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Jesus christ - talk about pots and kettles!
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000288#msg1000288 date=1259339483]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37486.msg1000283#msg1000283 date=1259339363]
Brendan,

You remember just how horrible many of that team was - Dudek (other than the final was awful much of the season), Traore, Biscan, Gonzalez, Kewell, Cisse, Baros, etc...

Gonzalez? Hmmm. Nice one.
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Sorry, Nunez. And Le Tallec.
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Just had a call: can you appear on the Sunday Supplement on Sky this weekend?
 
Rafa was great in the press conference when some hack tried to use a report from the S*n without acknowledging the source. He really made the bloke squirm, then dismissed the paper as worthless.
 
Interesting read this thread. Some posters seem to actually revel in the position we are in at the moment.

I like Rafa's interview, it was very honest and open and you can see the guy loves the club. Anyone who thinks this team isn't better than 2004, should never post again in my opinion. They are not worth debating with.

In case anyone hasn't realised, the Premiership is about money. Since Roman arrived, Chelsea and Man Utd have owned the Premiership. To get 2nd last year, splitting them, was a truly Herculean achievement. To even get the fans expecting the Premiership with less than £20m net spend per year, is pretty amazing. Good teams can play badly at times, sport can be like that.

We're still a good team.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=37486.msg1000353#msg1000353 date=1259348220]
Interesting read this thread. Some posters seem to actually revel in the position we are in at the moment.

I like Rafa's interview, it was very honest and open and you can see the guy loves the club. Anyone who thinks this team isn't better than 2004, should never post again in my opinion. They are not worth debating with.

In case anyone hasn't realised, the Premiership is about money. Since Roman arrived, Chelsea and Man Utd have owned the Premiership. To get 2nd last year, splitting them, was a truly Herculean achievement. To even get the fans expecting the Premiership with less than £20m net spend per year, is pretty amazing. Good teams can play badly at times, sport can be like that.

We're still a good team.
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I think you've wandered into the wrong Forum 😉
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37486.msg1000283#msg1000283 date=1259339363]
Brendan,

You remember just how horrible many of that team was - Dudek (other than the final was awful much of the season), Traore, Biscan, Gonzalez, Kewell, Cisse, Baros, etc...

Gonzalez? Hmmm. Nice one.
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Sorry, Nunez. And Le Tallec.
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What the fuck. You made an off and wrong comment, all you had to do was apologise for it but noooooo you instead try to insult Le Tallec.

The two games he played in the champions league for us I don't recall us losing. No he made a fucking ingeenius assist for garcia in the year we went on to win the fucking thing. the majority of the team we played this season can fuck themselves. they are continually given chance after chance and have failed repeatedly. fucking failures is what they are. le tallec was treated like shit, but he did not ever humiliate this club on the pitch in the way some of this lot have. so fuck you
 
Read the very first word of my response to Brendan... What is it? And what does it mean?

Also, Le Tallec is so good, that he played how many games for us? And he's where now? An "ingeenius assist", you say... Watch it again - He wasn't even aiming for Garcia. Luis just ran onto it faster than anybody else and made something out of nowhere.

And that needless personal shite at the end just earned you a 24 hour breather.
 
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000288#msg1000288 date=1259339483]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37486.msg1000283#msg1000283 date=1259339363]
Brendan,

You remember just how horrible many of that team was - Dudek (other than the final was awful much of the season), Traore, Biscan, Gonzalez, Kewell, Cisse, Baros, etc...

Gonzalez? Hmmm. Nice one.
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Sorry, Nunez. And Le Tallec.
[/quote]

Just had a call: can you appear on the Sunday Supplement on Sky this weekend?
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Dunno what that means, mate - Never get to watch that show... I'm guessing it's a shot, though.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37486.msg1000278#msg1000278 date=1259339224]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000269#msg1000269 date=1259338868]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37486.msg1000261#msg1000261 date=1259338727]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=37486.msg1000254#msg1000254 date=1259338475]
Spanked? the only team listed that was 'really' better than us on the night/day was Flo, the rest had beachballs sendings off's and the luck of the Gods
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Horsehit.

Spurs, Villa, Chelsea, and Fiorentina played us off the park
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Neither Chelsea nor Villa "played us off the park".
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No, fair point, against Villa we "controlled the game" and lost 3-1. At Anfield

At Chelsea we had zero chances and lost 2-0

I forgot Fulham. They pissed on us from a great height, too. As did Fiorentina and Spurs. And Sunderland, who should have had a hatful.

We've been dog-shit this season, and nobody can really argue that fact, which is adequately reflected in the fact that we are ONE CUNTING POINT ahead of Stoke, and have been booted out of Europe in one of the weakest groups.
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This post is all that matters football is all about what happens on the pitch.

And for all our debating the above is 100% fact and that is shameful for LFC.
 
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
[/quote]

So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
[/quote]
We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
[/quote]

So, you expect us to finish 5th or worse and 33 points or more behind the league winners, do you?
[/quote]
Its not impossible honestly.
I still think we can finish 4th though... Which would not be good enough.
Houiller was sacked after finishing 4th. I dont care about the points amount
It shouldnt be different for Rafa, esp after 6 years.
[/quote]

Houllier was sacked after finishing fourth and bowling into the AGM expecting a round of applause for the fact despite having patently wasted 20M on shit players.... that was when 20M was still a lot of money mind you. Our record in the champs league over Rafas reign proves to me without doubt that on the whole we have inproved, although there is absolutely no denying that we have been dogshit this season and some of that fault should definitely lie with Rafa. Having sai that it december and we still as of yet have not been able to field anything like our strongest side and the only luck we have had so far has been of the atrocious bad variety.

getting on the teams or the managers back is counter productive in the extreme, we will get better and hopefully it will be soon.
 
Who did get banned? Because whaddapie appeared to think I'd said something, but it was dantes he was replying to

Whadda unholy fuckup of a thread this has been, poor lad
 
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=37486.msg1000473#msg1000473 date=1259366021]

Reina

Johnson
CARRA
HYYPIA
RIISE

GARCIA
ALONSO
DIDI
Riera/Yossi

STEVIE

Torres

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Why are some in capitals and some not?
 
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000318#msg1000318 date=1259340930]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000316#msg1000316 date=1259340678]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000312#msg1000312 date=1259340320]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37486.msg1000295#msg1000295 date=1259339593]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37486.msg1000286#msg1000286 date=1259339404]
Thats not "far worse" esp. considering we also got 20 points.
I'm right. Thanks
[/quote]

So in our worst run of form, we're doing at least as well as the team Rafa inherited. We get out of this run of form, wnd you'll happily admit the team is better now? Right?

Actually not sure why I'm bothering...
[/quote]
We havent improved.
TRUFAX.
[/quote]

So, you expect us to finish 5th or worse and 33 points or more behind the league winners, do you?
[/quote]
Its not impossible honestly.
I still think we can finish 4th though... Which would not be good enough.
Houiller was sacked after finishing 4th. I dont care about the points amount
It shouldnt be different for Rafa, esp after 6 years.
[/quote]

Houllier was sacked after finishing fourth and bowling into the AGM expecting a round of applause for the fact despite having patently wasted 20M on shit players.... that was when 20M was still a lot of money mind you. Our record in the champs league over Rafas reign proves to me without doubt that on the whole we have inproved, although there is absolutely no denying that we have been dogshit this season and some of that fault should definitely lie with Rafa. Having sai that it december and we still as of yet have not been able to field anything like our strongest side and the only luck we have had so far has been of the atrocious bad variety.

getting on the teams or the managers back is counter productive in the extreme, we will get better and hopefully it will be soon.
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Says who's on owners' back every week...
Irony alert!

Whad, did you really ban Dantes for that post?
Double standards are becoming a common thing on that site...
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=37486.msg1000713#msg1000713 date=1259421618]
Fucking hell. What's the opposite of the Vault?
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The moat.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37486.msg1000456#msg1000456 date=1259362752]
And that needless personal shite at the end just earned you a 24 hour breather.
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There'll be no-one left at this rate.
 
I don't recall whaddapie being a particularly good poster, but he's a worse mod, that much is certain; issuing rubbish warnings, dishing out threats (to the wrong poster) and generally not having a fucking scooby who signed which players.

Twice in one thread.
 
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