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Q&A about VAR

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Pesam

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Are England the biggest benefactors of VAR?

For many decades English football system seems to promote players that adept aerially (more so than other nationalities). English CB's tend towards the Adams, Butcher, Terry, Maguire, Pallister model whereas Johnny Foreigner produces more Baresi, Hummels, Miranda, etc who were/are all competent in the air but not a consistent threat at set pieces.

This is not to say England have not produced players like Rio Ferdinand, Jagielka and Des Walker but more often than not English CB's are excellent aerially and European/South American's less-so.

Add to that the fact that English forwards were traditionally "target men" and even though the Andy Carroll's of this world are a dying breed England have had many decent headers of the ball leading the line, Kane, Shearer, Lineker etc.

My point (eventually) is that England have always had the potential to do well in tournaments via set pieces because of an aerial advantage but due the defensive "dark arts" by the likes of Pepe, Ramos, Puyol etc and others in previous decades; the shirt tugging, blocking-off runs, and outright manhandling from set pieces has minimised England's threat.

Now with VAR defenders are afraid to foul because of the review system. 9 of England's 11 goals have come from set pieces. Is this the reason (as well as a cushy series of games) that England can actually become World Champions.

Croatia, unfortunately for England, have Lovren, Vida, Corluka (they should start with him) and Mandzukic to match up with Maguire, Stones and Kane so England will struggle more with set pieces this time.

If England beat Croatia I would drop Walker and pick Cahill. Whoever England play in the final they will find themselves on the back foot, they need to play deep and play for set pieces.

I genuinely believe (and want) England to win this and I think VAR has been a huge help and hopefully it will be used in all future tournaments.
 
So, in short, what you're saying is, this GIF sums up England's WC run?

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"Add to that the fact that English forwards were traditionally "target men" and even though the Andy Carroll's of this world are a dying breed England have had many decent headers of the ball leading the line, Kane, Shearer, Lineker etc".

Lineker?! Hahahahahahaha. He couldn't head his way out of a wet paper bag

(I bet he scored loads, now)
 
"Add to that the fact that English forwards were traditionally "target men" and even though the Andy Carroll's of this world are a dying breed England have had many decent headers of the ball leading the line, Kane, Shearer, Lineker etc".

Lineker?! Hahahahahahaha. He couldn't head his way out of a wet paper bag

(I bet he scored loads, now)
I seem to remember him scoring quite a few headers, particularly in his Leicester days
 
What was the saying, nobody gets as excited about a corner as the English?

Rightly so in this tournament. They've clearly worked a lot on set pieces and totally agree that the addition of VAR has made the defensive cheating used to combat set pieces really dangerous giving England an edge.

Could be a strange side effect of this high tech officiating that some old fashioned elements of the game come back into play.
 
I'm thinking there may be a metaphor there for bumbling into the easiest draw I can remember in WC history too. There is so much potential here.

Hmmm, this one could be easier.

Germany's route to the 2002 WC final

Group stage they played Ireland, Saudi Arabia, Cameroon.

Into the knockouts and they meet Paraguay (last 16), USA (1/4 Finals) and South Korea (Semis)

It happens.
 
Hmmm, this one could be easier.

Germany's route to the 2002 WC final

Group stage they played Ireland, Saudi Arabia, Cameroon.

Into the knockouts and they meet Paraguay (last 16), USA (1/4 Finals) and South Korea (Semis)

It happens.
And they lost the final


Optimism all around then
 
Hmmm, this one could be easier.

Germany's route to the 2002 WC final

Group stage they played Ireland, Saudi Arabia, Cameroon.

Into the knockouts and they meet Paraguay (last 16), USA (1/4 Finals) and South Korea (Semis)

It happens.
Ireland and Cameroon> Panama and Tunisia. SIGNIFICANTLY. I'll give you the rest.
 
Ireland and Cameroon> Panama and Tunisia. SIGNIFICANTLY. I'll give you the rest.

So are you putting Belgium on par with Saudi Arabia?

You cant just leave the best team out of Englands group this year, and the Worst team out of Germanys group that year to do a comparison.

Anyway, Im not disputing they havent had it easy. They have. But its not the first time its happened. I saw a great tweet about easy rides to finals, and there are another two of these as well over the years (I cant find the tweet now).

After seeing the behaviour of England fans last week when I was in Tenerife, I dont want them to win the fucking thing anyway. France all the way (I will win over 1K if France win the WC 🙂 )
 
So are you putting Belgium on par with Saudi Arabia?

You cant just leave the best team out of Englands group this year, and the Worst team out of Germanys group that year to do a comparison.

Anyway, Im not disputing they havent had it easy. They have. But its not the first time its happened. I saw a great tweet about easy rides to finals, and there are another two of these as well over the years (I cant find the tweet now).

After seeing the behaviour of England fans last week when I was in Tenerife, I dont want them to win the fucking thing anyway. France all the way (I will win over 1K if France win the WC 🙂 )
I wish you every pecuniary good fortune.
 
So are you putting Belgium on par with Saudi Arabia?

You cant just leave the best team out of Englands group this year, and the Worst team out of Germanys group that year to do a comparison.

Anyway, Im not disputing they havent had it easy. They have. But its not the first time its happened. I saw a great tweet about easy rides to finals, and there are another two of these as well over the years (I cant find the tweet now).

After seeing the behaviour of England fans last week when I was in Tenerife, I dont want them to win the fucking thing anyway. France all the way (I will win over 1K if France win the WC 🙂 )

Am I the only one slightly incredulous and agog that Piedro has seen behaviour so appalling, that even he was driven to hope England don't win?

I dread to think
 
Am I the only one slightly incredulous and agog that Piedro has seen behaviour so appalling, that even he was driven to hope England don't win?

I dread to think

Well, the Sweden game. We won. Lets put that out there right away.

Walked past a large sports bar a couple of hours after full time, you know the type, TV's everywhere, hundreds of tables and chairs outside. Big Screen.

TV's smashed, Tables broken, Chairs everywhere, In the road, on the roof. Parasols snapped, couches inside the bar broken, smashed glasses everywhere. I spoke to one of the waitresses who was cleaning up and she said at full time, they all just went mental and started breaking shit, throwing allsorts, jumping on cars.

Why? WE FUCKING WON THE GAME.

Gobshites.
 
Plus Im waiting on France for a good wedge so I dont really want an England France final. I'd have to lay my bet off then, and I dont wanna do that.
 
Well, the Sweden game. We won. Lets put that out there right away.

Walked past a large sports bar a couple of hours after full time, you know the type, TV's everywhere, hundreds of tables and chairs outside. Big Screen.

TV's smashed, Tables broken, Chairs everywhere, In the road, on the roof. Parasols snapped, couches inside the bar broken, smashed glasses everywhere. I spoke to one of the waitresses who was cleaning up and she said at full time, they all just went mental and started breaking shit, throwing allsorts, jumping on cars.

Why? WE FUCKING WON THE GAME.

Gobshites.

Thought as much. I think there's some kind of "extreme celebration" meme that has exploded because halfwitted monkeys with mobile phones are trying to outdo eachother and posting their "place went mental" bantz after each goal.

There's been a slew of these on social media, with cars (and ambulances) being jumped on and people actually keeping full pints of lager ready to throw up in the air.
 
Thought as much. I think there's some kind of "extreme celebration" meme that has exploded because halfwitted monkeys with mobile phones are trying to outdo eachother and posting their "place went mental" bantz after each goal.

There's been a slew of these on social media, with cars (and ambulances) being jumped on and people actually keeping full pints of lager ready to throw up in the air.

I think its just a load of 18 year old kids who cant handle their ale. First lads holiday, get the boozer for 11am and then drink in The Lying Rag until after the match. By 5pm, they are fucking leathered, one starts something off and the rest join it.

The poor waitresses had to close the shutters on the bar and just let them smash the place up outside until the bizzies arrived.

Twats.
 
Maybe the underlying theme is "stupid"? But there's different levels, I suppose. I prefer the ones that don't involve bodybags.
Perhaps you should be made to answer a question correctly before you're allowed to send a message via whatsapp?
 
The #limbs trend is amusing but becoming a bit contrived now. At first it was an observation that in large crowded rooms of people watching, people go mental for England scoring (I guess few other venues get 100% of one fan in watching games..) but now it is forced and morons are throwing fucking heavy pint glasses in the air. There will be chaos on Wednesday if we go through.
 
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