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the long and short of it is after liverpool put pompy to the sword with set personnel with easily the best performance of the season he went totally back in his shell with the 'safe options' well the 'safe options' did fuck all to protect the defense.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39435.msg1074365#msg1074365 date=1269188450]
the long and short of it is after liverpool put pompy to the sword with set personnel with easily the best performance of the season he went totally back in his shell with the 'safe options' well the 'safe options' did fuck all to protect the defense.
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Portsmouth our best performance of the season you have got to be joking ?
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074367#msg1074367 date=1269188516]
So why do you still want Rafa as our manager, neil ?
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because despite his cautious nature I still think (probably foolishly) he will turn things around, based on observations at liverpool and valencia, having said that if he were removed I would meet it with a 'meh' rather than a tear.
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074363#msg1074363 date=1269188302]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074358#msg1074358 date=1269188106]
How do you know Kriss?
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Because I think Utd are too strong for us
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They're weaker than they were when be beat them 4-1 using those same tactics you keep going on about.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074373#msg1074373 date=1269188670]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074363#msg1074363 date=1269188302]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074358#msg1074358 date=1269188106]
How do you know Kriss?
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Because I think Utd are too strong for us
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They're weaker than they were when be beat them 4-1 using those same tactics you keep going on about.


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Yes they are, but so are we
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074369#msg1074369 date=1269188534]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39435.msg1074365#msg1074365 date=1269188450]
the long and short of it is after liverpool put pompy to the sword with set personnel with easily the best performance of the season he went totally back in his shell with the 'safe options' well the 'safe options' did fuck all to protect the defense.
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Portsmouth our best performance of the season you have got to be joking ?
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'performance'

the game would a joy to behold and the one touch passing is the football we should aspire to every game not only against the worst side in the league.
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074374#msg1074374 date=1269188732]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074373#msg1074373 date=1269188670]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074363#msg1074363 date=1269188302]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074358#msg1074358 date=1269188106]
How do you know Kriss?
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Because I think Utd are too strong for us
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They're weaker than they were when be beat them 4-1 using those same tactics you keep going on about.


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Yes they are, but so are we
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Why's that?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39435.msg1074371#msg1074371 date=1269188566]
Portsmouth at home is slightly different to Salford away.
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why is it? seriously, why?
we are concerned with what rooney can do to us, what about what torres can do them?
we are concerned with what carrick can do to us, what about what aqua can do to them?
we are concerned with what valencia can do to us, what about what babel can do to them?

let THEM worry about US
ffs look at what we did to teams when we went after them at the end of last season
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074377#msg1074377 date=1269188805]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074374#msg1074374 date=1269188732]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074373#msg1074373 date=1269188670]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074363#msg1074363 date=1269188302]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074358#msg1074358 date=1269188106]
How do you know Kriss?
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Because I think Utd are too strong for us
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They're weaker than they were when be beat them 4-1 using those same tactics you keep going on about.


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Yes they are, but so are we
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Why's that?
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*puts hand up*

We sold Xabi and replaced him with Aquacrock + we didn't buy a much needed striker.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074377#msg1074377 date=1269188805]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074374#msg1074374 date=1269188732]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074373#msg1074373 date=1269188670]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074363#msg1074363 date=1269188302]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074358#msg1074358 date=1269188106]
How do you know Kriss?
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Because I think Utd are too strong for us
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They're weaker than they were when be beat them 4-1 using those same tactics you keep going on about.


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Yes they are, but so are we
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Why's that?
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A number of things to be honest, injuries, main players not playing well, the loss of Alonso and Sami, and lack of funding to build on last season, i think we have actually spent less since last season than we have sold
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39435.msg1074379#msg1074379 date=1269188936]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39435.msg1074371#msg1074371 date=1269188566]
Portsmouth at home is slightly different to Salford away.
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why is it? seriously, why?
we are concerned with what rooney can do to us, what about what torres can do them?
we are concerned with what carrick can do to us, what about what aqua can do to them?
we are concerned with what valencia can do to us, what about what babel can do to them?

let THEM worry about US
ffs look at what we did to teams when we went after them at the end of last season
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I agree with Neil. Yes we won there last season using the same tactics but I think in the main you've got a better chance if you have a go at them. Most sides who win at Old Trafford do so by attacking them, not sitting there hoping to grab a 1-0.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074385#msg1074385 date=1269189054]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39435.msg1074379#msg1074379 date=1269188936]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39435.msg1074371#msg1074371 date=1269188566]
Portsmouth at home is slightly different to Salford away.
[/quote]

why is it? seriously, why?
we are concerned with what rooney can do to us, what about what torres can do them?
we are concerned with what carrick can do to us, what about what aqua can do to them?
we are concerned with what valencia can do to us, what about what babel can do to them?

let THEM worry about US
ffs look at what we did to teams when we went after them at the end of last season
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I agree with Neil. Yes we won there last season using the same tactics but I think in the main you've got a better chance if you have a go at them. Most sides who win at Old Trafford do so by attacking them, not sitting there hoping to grab a 1-0.
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its like someone said in the 'how to tackle manu' thread, inviting manu onto us is asking for trouble, on the other hand they have rio recently back from injury, vidic PATENTLY terrified of torres and THE slowest fullback in the league and did we test them? did we run at them? ffs, so fucking frustrating. babel made ONE RUN today and it cut through the manu defense for the first time when we should have been attempting that all game. too fucking easy for manu.
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074388#msg1074388 date=1269189141]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
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I see that but I thought we were talking about this game ?

They had Gay Head last year.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39435.msg1074390#msg1074390 date=1269189246]
Skrtel.
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Xabi said he's the hardest in the squad.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39435.msg1074390#msg1074390 date=1269189246]
Skrtel.
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That's well and good, Raf; but can we come up with some better excuses?

There are some people waiting for me at work tomorrow morning waiting for some payback.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39435.msg1074397#msg1074397 date=1269189457]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39435.msg1074390#msg1074390 date=1269189246]
Skrtel.
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That's well and good, Raf; but can we come up with some better excuses?

There are some people waiting for me at work tomorrow morning waiting for some payback.
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Just buy a gun and wave it about.

That'll shut 'em the fuck up !
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074395#msg1074395 date=1269189398]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074388#msg1074388 date=1269189141]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
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I see that but I thought we were talking about this game ?

They had Gay Head last year.
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And Tevez. So they lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Owen and Valencia. We lost Alonso and Arbeloa and replaced them with Johnson and Aquilani. I wouldn't exactly say that we'd become much weaker than them. More the other way round.
 
liverpool last season v chelsea in the CL away game, sure I was disappointed but at least the boys had a fucking go, how can you complain when your team gives all it has? we were scared to go at them instead seeking to defend a deficit (what the fuck is THAT about?!).
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39435.msg1074397#msg1074397 date=1269189457]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39435.msg1074390#msg1074390 date=1269189246]
Skrtel.
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That's well and good, Raf; but can we come up with some better excuses?

There are some people waiting for me at work tomorrow morning waiting for some payback.
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No excuses mate, we got done fair and square today. Just offer to make the tea/coffee in the morning and then spit in it.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074400#msg1074400 date=1269189533]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074395#msg1074395 date=1269189398]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074388#msg1074388 date=1269189141]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
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I see that but I thought we were talking about this game ?

They had Gay Head last year.
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And Tevez. So they lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Owen and Valencia. We lost Alonso and Arbeloa and replaced them with Johnson and Aquilani. I wouldn't exactly say that we'd become much weaker than them. More the other way round.
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totally agree. our plan was to keep it tight and nick a goal, all well and good at the start of the season but in our 'win or bust' situation you would have expected a little more adventure.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074400#msg1074400 date=1269189533]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074395#msg1074395 date=1269189398]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074388#msg1074388 date=1269189141]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
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I see that but I thought we were talking about this game ?

They had Gay Head last year.
[/quote]

And Tevez. So they lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Owen and Valencia. We lost Alonso and Arbeloa and replaced them with Johnson and Aquilani. I wouldn't exactly say that we'd become much weaker than them. More the other way round.
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That does hold some water, but they had the option of moving a world class player in Rooney back to a chosen position, instead of out wide on the left. There was a small risk he wouldn't flourish but it was one that's paid off handsomely for Ferguson.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39435.msg1074400#msg1074400 date=1269189533]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074395#msg1074395 date=1269189398]
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39435.msg1074388#msg1074388 date=1269189141]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1269189050]
Xabi did not play at Old Trafford last year.
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Just in general mate, through the season
[/quote]

I see that but I thought we were talking about this game ?

They had Gay Head last year.
[/quote]

And Tevez. So they lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Owen and Valencia. We lost Alonso and Arbeloa and replaced them with Johnson and Aquilani. I wouldn't exactly say that we'd become much weaker than them. More the other way round.
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Yes.

Sorry Mr Sheik, I'm too fucked to remember the original point, but I'm sure you're right.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39435.msg1074399#msg1074399 date=1269189532]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39435.msg1074397#msg1074397 date=1269189457]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39435.msg1074390#msg1074390 date=1269189246]
Skrtel.
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That's well and good, Raf; but can we come up with some better excuses?

There are some people waiting for me at work tomorrow morning waiting for some payback.
[/quote]

Just buy a gun and wave it about.

That'll shut 'em the fuck up !
[/quote]

That'll get you the sack and prison time. My idea is much better.
 
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