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Pre Match - Spurs (H) - 27/10

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We’re going to do them and score at least 4.

I hate that. First I think you know shit So I start feeling confident. And that confidence rises when I ser others confirm your result by having a similar stand to it. I brush of those who says we will struggle and Spurs are dangerous as pussies that tries to unjinx the original jinx. Other games are played before ours and Spurs drop a few places in the league table (we can't do that of course).

So on matchday I wake up and try to pretend it is a good day for football. They will never get their Classic CL revenge. Still there is this 4-0 win in the week that might have given them som much needed boost? And didn't Kane score on international duty again? I start to turn... I see their line up and there is quite a number of good players there. I see ours and remember Lovren has been involved with these guys before. And is a midfield of Fabs-Hendo-Milner really what we need today? And just over a few days I go from the coolest guy on earth to a nervous shithouse.
 
I do say shit like that before every game. It’s done ok so far this season.

However, every time I’ve watched spurs this season they’ve been atrocious.
 
I hate playing Spurs. This will be another tough game regardless of their form. Especially if that hapless clown Lovren plays. We need 3 points. I'd take any sort of win.
 
I can never enjoy that goal because we got cheated by that mongy, diving, slobbering cunt a couple of minutes later.
 
VAR has somehow made it worse.

Mental, isn't it? I don't understand how, but it has. All it has done is further highlight their incompetence, and also now brought to the fore their corruption (? For want of a better word). They don't care about the correct call. All they care about is protecting themselves .
 
Mental, isn't it? I don't understand how, but it has. All it has done is further highlight their incompetence, and also now brought to the fore their corruption (? For want of a better word). They don't care about the correct call. All they care about is protecting themselves .

It is because they don’t want to make a close call as VAR might make them look stupid but VAR won’t overrule it because it’s not clear and obvious.
 
Mental, isn't it? I don't understand how, but it has. All it has done is further highlight their incompetence, and also now brought to the fore their corruption (? For want of a better word). They don't care about the correct call. All they care about is protecting themselves .
That's bollocks mate. Sure there are areas of improvement required (great improvement in communication and speed) but the fact is that for offside and handball the rules are now being applied (whether you agree with those rules or not - I don't necessarily) and obvious offsides that result in a goal and obvious handballs or fouls in the build-up are now noted.

It is where it is left to humans to decide what is and isn't that discrepancies intrude. Whatever though, at least now many errors that would have been missed before are now corrected. It's the first step, 10 years from now it'll likely be near perfect (assuming rule changes).
 
That's bollocks mate. Sure there are areas of improvement required (great improvement in communication and speed) but the fact is that for offside and handball the rules are now being applied (whether you agree with those rules or not - I don't necessarily) and obvious offsides that result in a goal and obvious handballs or fouls in the build-up are now noted.

It is where it is left to humans to decide what is and isn't that discrepancies intrude. Whatever though, at least now many errors that would have been missed before are now corrected. It's the first step, 10 years from now it'll likely be near perfect (assuming rule changes).

You said my point was bollocks, then basically went on to agree with everything I said...

They might be ruling out some errors (oh look, a quarter of an inch of Sterling's shoulder is offside... hurray us!), but what's the point when they're blatantly ignoring CLEAR fuck ups like what happened to Watford last week, or Burnley in the same round of fixtures?

Every week there's a monumental fuck up. The game is no better off for it. It's the humans in charge of the technology that are the problem - which was my point - and these corrupt morons are hiding behind VAR and the vague loopholes to protect each other.

If they used it properly, it could be successful. I was in favour of it. But they aren't. And you want to put up with ten years of this shit?

The world cup was a year ago and they used VAR better than this. The English refs are just shit and are only interested in serving themselves, not the game.
 
Using VAR for binary decisions is right. Offside or not and did it strike a hand/arm in the build up is being used as per the rules of the game.

I have an issue with handball rule as if it strikes a hand in the build up to a goal it’s disallowed. It should be the same when defending, if the ball strikes the defenders hand in a similar way it’s a free kick. The rule should be changed back to gaining an advantage when it strikes the arm in a build up to a goal.

The biggest gripe with VAR is the clear and obvious interpretation. It’s seems to be interpreted as “I can see why the ref didn’t give it”. It’s not even being used consistently. Compare the Origi and Evans fouls last weekend. Either both should’ve had the goals disallowed or both allowed. As it happens we had mixed results.
 
You said my point was bollocks, then basically went on to agree with everything I said...

They might be ruling out some errors (oh look, a quarter of an inch of Sterling's shoulder is offside... hurray us!), but what's the point when they're blatantly ignoring CLEAR fuck ups like what happened to Watford last week, or Burnley in the same round of fixtures?

Every week there's a monumental fuck up. The game is no better off for it. It's the humans in charge of the technology that are the problem - which was my point - and these corrupt morons are hiding behind VAR and the vague loopholes to protect each other.

If they used it properly, it could be successful. I was in favour of it. But they aren't. And you want to put up with ten years of this shit?

The world cup was a year ago and they used VAR better than this. The English refs are just shit and are only interested in serving themselves, not the game.
Is that what you understood from my post?

Momo : VAR has somehow made it worse.
You : Mental isn't it.

I actually said the complete opposite. VAR has got a lot right but there are areas to be improved. I actually said a lot of it isn't the officials it's a rule issue.

It's not what I want (I didn't say that but go ahead) it's a fact of life. It's here to stay.
 
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Using VAR for binary decisions is right. Offside or not and did it strike a hand/arm in the build up is being used as per the rules of the game.

I have an issue with handball rule as if it strikes a hand in the build up to a goal it’s disallowed. It should be the same when defending, if the ball strikes the defenders hand in a similar way it’s a free kick. The rule should be changed back to gaining an advantage when it strikes the arm in a build up to a goal.

The biggest gripe with VAR is the clear and obvious interpretation. It’s seems to be interpreted as “I can see why the ref didn’t give it”. It’s not even being used consistently. Compare the Origi and Evans fouls last weekend. Either both should’ve had the goals disallowed or both allowed. As it happens we had mixed results.
Yeah as I said there are decisions I don't agree with but those decisions are based on the rules and it's the rules that are wrong/unclear not VAR's interpretation.

For example I'd like to see offside given when there is daylight, not just bloody cms difference. Handball is handball if an advantage is gained (or deliberate). And so on ... these are clear rule changes that are required (and for the VAR referee to now actually change the call as in cricket or rugby).
 
Is that what you understood from my post?

Momo : VAR has somehow made it worse.
You : Mental isn't it.

I actually said the complete opposite. VAR has got a lot right but there are areas to be improved. I actually said a lot of it isn't the officials it's a rule issue.

It's not what I want (I didn't say that but go ahead) it's a fact of life. It's here to stay.

It's highlighted the incompetence and inconsistencies of the referees, and that is what seems to be getting worse.

The technology is technology. It's not good, or bad, it just is. It's replaying incidents. It's when these incompetent refs get involved that's the problem. The rule issues eg, handball and offside, yeah,they're issues. But they're also hiding behind this clear and obvious loophole so they don't have to tell their mates they made a mistake.

Besides offsides, we're not any better off.
 
No sign of Salah in any of the training photos from yesterday.
 
It's highlighted the incompetence and inconsistencies of the referees, and that is what seems to be getting worse.

The technology is technology. It's not good, or bad, it just is. It's replaying incidents. It's when these incompetent refs get involved that's the problem. The rule issues eg, handball and offside, yeah,they're issues. But they're also hiding behind this clear and obvious loophole so they don't have to tell their mates they made a mistake.

Besides offsides, we're not any better off.
Well if you disagree that spotting obvious offsides and handballs (and to some extent fouls in the box) isn't progress I don't know there is anything more I can say.

One final thing to mention though, as I've already implied, is that it's the implementation not the technology or officials themselves (nobody likes being made a fool of) that are the main problem, that and ambiguous (or conversely too strict) rules that either leave no room for common sense rulings or allow officials to go with the 'safe' option.
 
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