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Bournemouth and Leicester ripped the West Ham defense from stem to stern.

Liverpool reduced to firing pot shots from distance and not even coming close to troubling a back-up keeper.

Lovren reverting to form and Gomez looking much more human.

Lucas was less than useless today.

I didn't necessarily think Rodgers should have been sacked at the end of last season but I wouldn't have been upset if FSG let him go.

Today was the tipping point for me though, I think it's time to move on from Brodge.

Too many times we have seen the same mistakes and too many times the answers to try and correct those mistakes have been wrong.

I'm just afraid we will not see a change this early in the season after FSG spent the whole offseason backing Rodgers. To admit defeat know would require a massive dose of humility.
 
If Coutinho doesn't play well we're basically fucked.
Everything good that we've done this season he's been part of it.
 
4 games in, 44 convincing minutes

Pathetic.

He doesn't know how to set up an attack or a defence. There's a reason we only looked decent under him with Suarez up top.
 
It was extremely worrying to see how easy it was to defend against us.

They scored with their first shot on goal after 2 mins. Thats never easy to recover from, especially when you're us.

Poor set up, poor tactical plan and after he ran his mouth again about all the defensive work we've done we serve up loads of defensive mistakes.

Poor and worrying. For all the promise on monday this was a huge step backwards.

Benteke was left islolated and didnt get any service.
 
We are abysmal against sides that sit deep, stay compact & counter.

We played well against Arsenal because they gave us space & room to counter attack into.

But when we have to take the game to the opposition we struggle.

Today was just absolute fucking garbage.
 
0-3 at home to West Ham. That just isnt acceptable at all.
I'm still baffled to how we actually managed to be so shite.
 
On another note, did anyone else notice Bilic talking to Origi for a while just after the full time?

Origi to West Ham on loan?
 
I am not going to meltdown.
Maybe it is an overreaction though to say that I dont think we will win anything with Mr Rodgers in charge.
The problem is football is so skewed we probably wont win anything anyway anymore, so the choice really is are we happy watching us plod along under this manager or plod along under another.
The football we have played has been pretty dire ever since the third best player in the world left to be totally honest and the fact is this result or this kind of result is not a surprise.
If it was away at Watford or home to Palace is anyone and I mean ANYONE genuinely thinking we will win this game? I havnt had us in an accumulator for years because we are that fucking sketchy.

I think Mr Rodgers got very lucky having Suarez in the team and credit to him he made that work a treat. We dont have Suarez anymore and after spending 100m last year on Markovic, Balotelli, Lallana and Lovren we have spent another 100ish Mill on Firmino, Benteke, Origi, Ings and cleared out last years 100m of waste with what might prove to be a big improvement but my faith is destroyed in Mr Rodgers getting a tune out of them.

Quite a few mentioned it in summer, go and get a couple of absolute world class coaches in........we did not.

I dunno. Am I dont with him. Im losing interest again. Hes making me apathetic because I just dont believe in us. We arent very good and we have spent 300m in 3 and a half years getting to this point.

And while we are ANOTHER year away from a trophy Coutinho will want to go. And then its ANOTHER year and Sturridge will want to go.

I feel pretty far away from hope today.

I think a change is needed. Ultimately I lost faith in Rafa because he wasnt bringing in players that made us better. Im not seeing anywhere near the team we were 3 years ago.
 
Already dreading the Utd game. Take a serious beating there and the joy of football will be nearly done in September.

As Onky says. Maybe a change is needed. Its the same ol' same ol'.
 
Am I clutching at straws in saying if Firmino's shot had gone in at 0-1 we would probably have gone on to win the game?

Even if you don't accept the positive from this, the context is we're not very good at trailing in games.
 
Am I clutching at straws in saying if Firmino's shot had gone in at 0-1 we would probably have gone on to win the game?

Even if you don't accept the positive from this, the context is we're not very good at trailing in games.

Doesn't change the fact that we can't break teams down who come here to defend and hit us on the break.

We struggle BIG time against pacy players.

We have a new 30million striker who doesn't get any service at all.

The defense is a disaster waiting to happen.

Fucking Lovren.

Deja Vu from last season.
 
Benteke will be better with another striker up top with him. So why is Rodgers persisting with playing just one? What's he going to do when Sturridge is fit? If his plan is to play both he should be using Ings or Origi to get us used to that system.

I have no confidence he will play Benteke and Sturridge together. One up top when you're trailing 2-0 at home is atrocious.
 
As is trying to change things by bringing on a defender.

Every change he made did one thing, isolated Benteke more & more, when we should have been doing the reverse.

I've recorded motd but haven't been able to force myself to watch it yet, I may understand what he was trying to achieve with his changes after I watch that, but I fucking doubt it.
 
Actually, that was a lie, when ings came on he supported benteke & we actually got the ball into the final third a couple of times. Although by that time West ham just camped in their own box so we had no joy cos didn't have enough movement to spread out play & create space.
 
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