This thread, with it's added POLL, is an embarrassment to this site, and it's fans/muppets.
The bloke slipped last year once, and got a rare red last week, and now all the eejits out there are talking about his legacy being tarnished. If I want to read that FICTION, I'll read the newspapers and their circulation sales narrative (that's all it is, a story to sell papers).
The only people who think he's a lesser player now, are people in their teens, who don't understand getting older, muppets, and other clubs fans.
If you are one of the above, or a closet Arsenal/United/Chelsea fan (yes you..) go post elsewhere.
And you know how reasonable I am, but this thread is a joke.
Show some respect for a once in a lifetime player who took us through some of the darkest and brightest years of our liverpool supporting adult lives. And showed incredible loyalty to boot(le).
And I'm not even a true Gerrard superfan.