Peter Crouch "available"

[doctor_mac]

The other abiding memory is worse. Crouch receives the ball with his back to the defender somewhere between the halfway line and their box. Some nice skill (we all know he has 'nice feet for a big man') and he's turned the hapless defender with only the keeper standing between him and the goals as he moves away from the tackler. And then it is like one of those nightmares where you need to run, you have to run, but you just can't, it's like you're running through molasses as some imminent disaster looms. But it isn't you, it's that tall Liverpool striker, who appears to be in slow motion as the defender, the defender who should be miles behind is at full speed, easily making up the lost ground and dispossessing his gangly opponent.

*sighs with the memory*

 

[Portly]

The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.

 

[jexykrodic]

Peter Crouch would be a useful impact substitution, and for considerably less than the figures being bandied about.

He hasn't improved since he was here last and couldn't realistically expect to start games. He left because of this before, why would he rejoin now?

 

[doctor_mac]

[quote author=Portly link=topic=41324.msg1150773#msg1150773 date=1281341030]
The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.
[/quote]

Would you be happy to pay £14 m Portly?

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41324.msg1150762#msg1150762 date=1281339495]
the song, 'team of carra's' is about having 11 men on the pitch all willing to sweat blood and run through brick walls for the club. zlatan's point about 'team of carra's' was having 11 men who would at the first oppertunity hoof the ball up to crouch, they would, and we all know it. that is why I am hoping we aren't willing to pay (the frankly ridiculous) fee to bring crouch back to anfield.
[/quote]

So why use the phrase when it's obvious what "team of carraghers" means?

He doesn't understand it, and that's why I hate him

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41324.msg1150770#msg1150770 date=1281340931]
I hear he's got an excellent touch, for a big man.

14 million is just laughable...We paid well over the odds 1st time round, was it about 8 million?now hes 5 years older & not getting a game. Spurs must think Parrys still in charge.

I thought we were talking around 3 or 4 million, do them a favour & get him off their wage bill.

[/quote]

7 million

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41324.msg1150775#msg1150775 date=1281341251]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=41324.msg1150773#msg1150773 date=1281341030]
The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.
[/quote]

Would you be happy to pay £14 m Portly?
[/quote]

He won't go for anything like £14m anyway.

I wouldn't even take him for half that, because he's not very good.

 

[Mistadobalina]

hes also on about 70 grand a week at Spurs. Hes just not worth it.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41324.msg1150771#msg1150771 date=1281340974]
Like I said pages ago.
He's better than N'shit and for a few million he'd be a good addition as back up (plan B) but they WILL demand mad money and i don't think it will happen.
I'm still judging the signings on how they improve us, and Crouch, Jovanovic, Cole, Wilson are a huge improvement on Insua, Yossi, Riera.
[/quote]

You forgot Poulsen in there. And I'm not sure who you are saying is an "improvement" on Insua, gievn that none of them are left-backs.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41324.msg1150762#msg1150762 date=1281339495]
the song, 'team of carra's' is about having 11 men on the pitch all willing to sweat blood and run through brick walls for the club. zlatan's point about 'team of carra's' was having 11 men who would at the first oppertunity hoof the ball up to crouch, they would, and we all know it. that is why I am hoping we aren't willing to pay (the frankly ridiculous) fee to bring crouch back to anfield.
[/quote]Why are you happy to believe the highest fee quoted?
Is it because it's suits your agenda?
He's been quoted anywhere between 4mmand 15m. At one end it would be a good signing, at the other an awful
One.

 

[Mistadobalina]

So its decided. Peter Crouch is not worth the money and we dont want him here...

*Goes to dust off pitch fork*

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41324.msg1150782#msg1150782 date=1281341477]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41324.msg1150771#msg1150771 date=1281340974]
Like I said pages ago.
He's better than N'shit and for a few million he'd be a good addition as back up (plan B) but they WILL demand mad money and i don't think it will happen.
I'm still judging the signings on how they improve us, and Crouch, Jovanovic, Cole, Wilson are a huge improvement on Insua, Yossi, Riera.
[/quote]

You forgot Poulsen in there. And I'm not sure who you are saying is an "improvement" on Insua, gievn that none of them are left-backs.
[/quote]I'm still in MASSIVE denial about Poulsen. Obviously Mascherano out and Poulsen in ruins the positive vibes that our ACTUAL transfers so far have affected in me. And re-insua I'm just assuming that whichever lb we eventually sign will be up!

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41324.msg1150761#msg1150761 date=1281339101]
There is no way we'll pay 14 mil for Crouch.
[/quote]

Exactly. We won't pay more than 8m.

 

[Peatcheo]

I liked Crouch but I often found we played negative football when he was in the team, the defence in particular Carragher would hoof the ball all the time when we should have played it out of defence.

 

[Mistadobalina]

Remember when Rafa had the bright idea to play him on the left wing against Reading? haha I do miss the mad bastard in a way.

 

[Peatcheo]

[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41324.msg1150789#msg1150789 date=1281342222]
Remember when Rafa had the bright idea to play him on the left wing against Reading? haha I do miss the mad bastard in a way.
[/quote]

Lucas on instead of Keane against Hull will go down as one of his most loony!

 

[TheBunnyman]

I like Crouch as a person, a bit less as a footballer, although he certainly had his moments for us. I suppose if we had a decent transfer fund and could afford to sign TWO strikers, I'd be in favour of this. But if Crouch is to be our main back-up striker, then I think it's quite a long stride in the wrong direction.

 

[Mistadobalina]

[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=41324.msg1150790#msg1150790 date=1281342357]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41324.msg1150789#msg1150789 date=1281342222]
Remember when Rafa had the bright idea to play him on the left wing against Reading? haha I do miss the mad bastard in a way.
[/quote]

Lucas on instead of Keane against Hull will go down as one of his most loony!
[/quote]

If its true there is a fine line between madness and genius, Rafa weeved along that line like a drunk!

 

[Ossi]

Crouch for 4-5m yes, but no more. As said: He would be a better option than Ngog.
Poulsen- fuck off.

 

[LadyRed]

I'll be gutted if we sign Crouch again, he's not what we need, big man up top so we can hoof it up to him.

And 'he seems like a nice guy' is not a valid reason to sign a player.

 

[Peatcheo]

[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41324.msg1150794#msg1150794 date=1281342646]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=41324.msg1150790#msg1150790 date=1281342357]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41324.msg1150789#msg1150789 date=1281342222]
Remember when Rafa had the bright idea to play him on the left wing against Reading? haha I do miss the mad bastard in a way.
[/quote]

Lucas on instead of Keane against Hull will go down as one of his most loony!
[/quote]

If its true there is a fine line between madness and genius, Rafa weeved along that line like a drunk!
[/quote]

True dat!

Steven Gerrard reaction to Fernando Torres being substitued

 

[Richey]

[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=41324.msg1150803#msg1150803 date=1281343727]
I'll be gutted if we sign Crouch again, he's not what we need, big man up top so we can hoof it up to him.

And 'he seems like a nice guy' is not a valid reason to sign a player.
[/quote]

Indeed. And that is probably another reason that people overrate him to a degree. He seems like a nice bloke and people want him to do well.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Portly link=topic=41324.msg1150773#msg1150773 date=1281341030]
The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.
[/quote]

bullshit. if crouch filled his boots or was effective without needing the team built around him then I wouldn't care if he were 8 foot tall or 5 foot tall.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41324.msg1150820#msg1150820 date=1281346049]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=41324.msg1150773#msg1150773 date=1281341030]
The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.
[/quote]

bullshit. if crouch filled his boots or was effective without needing the team built around him then I wouldn't care if he were 8 foot tall or 5 foot tall.
[/quote]Is the England team built around him?

 

[LadyRed]

In a team that has Mascherano, Kuyt and the Greek in it, it's clear we're not worried about the players looks, Portly.

I just don't think he's what we need, he's awkward, slow and immobile, and more than anything whenever he plays it means players start looking to play long balls to him. I just dont want him, as I hate the way he makes us play.

We need another pacey striker who's capable of holding the line on his own.

 

[H]

was hoof the ball to crouch not raffas tactics, y do u all assume roy would do that? Sign him if mo more than 8m.

 

[peterhague]

i'm really hoping we don't pursue this idea, it'd be such an incredibly depressing signing. i'd genuinely prefer us to sign bobby zamora: at least he'd be some sort of backup to torres, whereas crouch is completely incapable of that.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41324.msg1150821#msg1150821 date=1281346171]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41324.msg1150820#msg1150820 date=1281346049]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=41324.msg1150773#msg1150773 date=1281341030]
The anti-Crouch people are a bit gay. They just don't like the way he looks. It's nothing to do with football.
[/quote]

bullshit. if crouch filled his boots or was effective without needing the team built around him then I wouldn't care if he were 8 foot tall or 5 foot tall.
[/quote]Is the England team built around him?
[/quote]

england and liverpool are two different things entirely. where is crouch going to play? behind torres? okay then, where is gerrard going to play, or cole? suddenly there is greater emphasis on getting the ball into the box as often and quickly as possible, by hoofing? who is going to bomb down the wing and cross into the box? kuyt?
14 million (or 10+ if were being consevative) for someone who has been no more effective than carew.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41324.msg1150826#msg1150826 date=1281346768]
i'm really hoping we don't pursue this idea, it'd be such an incredibly depressing signing. i'd genuinely prefer us to sign bobby zamora: at least he'd be some sort of backup to torres, whereas crouch is completely incapable of that.
[/quote]

I'm afarid that following he (relative) euphoria of Joe Cole on a free, the harsh realities are biting home:

Luke Young, Poulsen, Crouch.

Oh. Fucking. DEAR.

 

[LadyRed]

Also, I don't see how the situation has changed for Crouch, he left cos he didn't want to be back for Torres, he wanted first team football.