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Liverpool goalkeepr Pepe Reina believes club are on the right road to fulfilling their Europe dream
No wonder Liverpool come flying out of the blocks every weekend: it must be a frustrating having to spend the week watching from the outside as your rivals compete in the Champions League.

Keeping faith: Pepe Reina comes under pressure from Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge Photo: AP
By Duncan White10:00PM GMT 26 Nov 2011 Comment
“Yes, it’s horrible,” said Pepe Reina. “It’s hard to handle, but you have to. It is the first year in my career that I have not played at all in Europe. It is just weird watching. I like to play twice a week as it gives me the rhythm of competition. That’s the situation, though, and we have to face it.”
Having outrun and outplayed Chelsea last weekend, Liverpool will look to channel their frustration against Manchester City at Anfield on Sunday afternoon. They will need to give everything.
“They are in a gear above everybody, a step ahead,” he said. “They are clear favourites to win the title. That’s what happens when you spend £300 million in such a short period of time.”
Not that Liverpool have been parsimonious themselves. John Henry and the Fenway Group have invested substantially in trying to make sure these players have games to occupy them in midweek next season — and it is not another go at the Europa League they are after.
“We have to be humble and we have to be patient,” Reina said. “We have to work hard. It is not that easy. You can’t just write a cheque and expect titles. We are doing well right now, developing a proper squad and we’re back being competitive with the biggest teams. We have to get back in the Champions League sooner rather than later.

“When the new owners arrived they asked us questions. They wanted us to tell us what it would take for us to improve the club. Basically we did what we thought was right. In my opinion [Henry] has done three very big things that have made the difference: appointed Kenny Dalglish, appointed Damien Comolli and deepened the squad.”
It is clear that Reina has bought into what Liverpool are trying to do. Competing with City financially is a non-starter, so Liverpool are looking to make the change a cultural one, to instil a philosophy of play in the club at every level, right down to the under-12s. It reminds Reina of the way he was raised at Barcelona.
“We played exactly the same as the first team, when we were kids. That means that when you get your chance with the first team you can cope because you are playing exactly the same way. We need that here. Once you have played that style in the younger divisions it makes it easier to make the step up; players know the style, the philosophy of play, the system.”
Reina is a perfect example of how much a footballer is shaped by what happens at this formative stage of development. In his case, the key year is 1992. “I was 10 years old when they changed the back-pass rule,” he said. “I was still young enough, thankfully. It caught me just in time, as I was beginning to develop my skills.”
The decision to stop keepers picking up back-passes was designed to prevent time-wasting but it also ended up creating a generation of keepers who had to be comfortable playing football.
What better place to learn to play football than in La Masia. Two years after that rule change, Reina was ensconced at Barcelona’s academy, drilling with Andres Iniesta, Xavi, Mikel Arteta and Thiago Motta.
“It was a special place to have grown up because you live with boys who have the same ambitions, the same dreams and the same nightmares too.” He was intensively trained to kick off both feet, to be able to pick a pass from his deep position. To this day he still takes part in the outfield players’ possession drills at Melwood.
Contingency smiled again. When Louis van Gaal arrived to take over at Barcelona he brought Frans Hoek from Amsterdam. Hoek had the vision to see how the role of the goalkeeper could be revolutionised and at Ajax he had helped form a gangling young Edwin van der Sar into the prototypical modern No 1, playing as an 11th outfielder. Hoek immediately set about forming Reina and Victor Valdes in Van der Sar’s image.
“Van der Sar was the one for me,” Reina said. “I followed him when he started to play as a sweeper-keeper at Ajax. Dutch keepers had always had something of that, from Hans van Breukelen to Ruud Hesp. So it was great for me to work with Frans, the man who had been Van der Sar’s goalkeeping coach.”
At 18 Reina was thrust into the Barcelona first team by injuries, keeping goal for a side containing Ronald de Boer, Pep Guardiola, Luis Enrique and Rivaldo. A change of manager saw a change of fortune, though. He was loaned out to Villarreal in 2002, made it a permanent move the following year. Then, in 2005, Rafael Benítez claimed he had brought “the best goalkeeper in Spain” to Liverpool.
He swiftly made a case for being the best goalkeeper in England, too, racing to 55 clean sheets in 100 games. His ability to play as a sweeper-keeper changed the way the whole team played, allowing them to squeeze up the field. He also became a dangerous counter-attacking weapon. He can throw the ball with power and accuracy to the halfway line and out of hand he kicks in the Latin American style, side on, sending the ball in a low arc up the field. “It’s a more direct way of delivering the ball to someone because it does not go so high in the air,” he said.
As the team came together on the pitch, the club spiralled into debt off it. Suddenly it got worse: players were sold, ambitions curtailed and Benítez left when the team missed out on the Champions League.
Reina shares an agent with his former manager and many expected him to follow Xabi Alonso, Javier Mascherano and Fernando Torres out of the club. But Reina stayed, despite Arsenal’s best efforts to tempt him to London.
“We could have gone into administration,” he said. “It was the darkest moment in Liverpool’s history. A year on the picture is much brighter, much clearer. The whole way through my mind was on Liverpool.
It’s true I could have left at some point. I decided to stay here and give the best of myself to try to help the team bring back the winning days. It was also a decision I made for my wife and my kids, they feel like Liverpool is home.
“I’ve been here seven years so I’m the third most senior player at the club, after Jamie Carragher and Stevie Gerrard. At the West Brom game they told me I was the oldest Liverpool player on the pitch. I’m 29: it’s a disgrace! It’s all gone so quickly. It’s a good sign for the team though, that they are at the right age to compete for many years at the highest level. It makes me feel old now though.”
Not that that means the end is in sight for Reina. Brad Friedel is making himself very popular among his peers by playing into his 40s.
“He’s setting us a great example,” Reina said. “I’m 29 but hopefully I have still got 10 years ahead of me. I’ve got four more years on my contract after this season and my head is in Liverpool. Everyone can be calm and chilled out about that. But at some point in the future I’d like to go back to Spain and play for Atletico Madrid like my father did. I probably won’t be in a position to choose, it will be up to them to take the decision for me.”
A little hint, that, of Reina’s fatalism. He has recently written a book that disclosed how incredibly superstitious he was ahead of games. The City game on Sunday will be no different. Last night he had his two cheese-and-ham toasties, washed down with a glass of wine, and this morning he will head to the same petrol station to fill up his tank, even though the tank is already near full. He will park in the same space at Anfield and then begins the elaborately choreographed routine of getting his into his kit and going down to the pitch.
“Crazy, eh?” he said. “You start with some superstitions then when you win games or keep a clean sheet you look for something. At some point it is just insecurity. If I do it I feel safe and ready for the game. My head works properly. If I miss one thing, I’m not the same. If I don’t fill my car before the game I’m not the same.”
Liverpool will hope Reina’s routine is not interrupted: they will need him at his best if they are to beat City.

Pepe Reina on . . .

Hicks and Gillett: We could have gone into administration. It was the darkest moment in Liverpool’s history. A year on the picture is much brighter, much clearer.

Being superstitious: At some point it is just insecurity. If I do it I feel safe and ready for the game. My head works properly. If I miss one thing, I’m not the same. If I don’t fill my car with petrol before the game I’m not the same.

Manchester City: They are in a gear above everybody. A step ahead. They are clear favourites to win the title. That’s what happens when you spend £300 million in such a short period of time.

The future: I’m 29 but hopefully I have still got 10 years ahead of me. I’ve got four more years on my contract here and my head is in Liverpool. But at some point I’d like to play for Atletico Madrid, like my father.
 
Pepe has a big mouth.
Even more so when he has a book coming out.
 
Sorry but im lost. Not surprising considering how fucked I am, but what has he said that is so bad? or am I being whooshed?
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47681.msg1432734#msg1432734 date=1322349342]
I like Pepe and rate him very highly but i don't think he's God like a lot of Pool fans.
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He's the best keeper we've ever head since the glory days. Behave.
 
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[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47681.msg1432734#msg1432734 date=1322349342]
I like Pepe and rate him very highly but i don't think he's God like a lot of Pool fans.
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He's the best keeper we've ever head since the glory days. Behave.
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*agree with dead big and fucked Irish chappy smiley*
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47681.msg1432743#msg1432743 date=1322350946]
He's a mouthy attention seeking fucker. Good keeper though.
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Wow, you *really* don't like him, do you gene ?
 
Remember the uncertain years we had with James, Westerveld, Friedel and Dudek?
We've had that spot sorted for the last 6 years. He's up there with Clemence IMO.

I hope Enrique can do the same.

Now if we can get a new Barnes.... oh yeah Raheem, Jamaican as well.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=47681.msg1432748#msg1432748 date=1322351566]
Remember the uncertain years we had with James, Westerveld, Friedel and Dudek?
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If my memory serves me right, the order was James, Friedel, Westerveld and Dudek.

I always thought we would have been much better off if we had managed to hang on to Friedel and avoided all that trouble with Westerveld and Dudek.

Friedel is a top keeper. He would have done well for us.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=47681.msg1432748#msg1432748 date=1322351566]
Remember the uncertain years we had with James, Westerveld, Friedel and Dudek?
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If my memory serves me right, the order was James, Friedel, Westerveld and Dudek.

I always thought we would have been much better off if we had managed to hang on to Friedel and avoided all that trouble with Westerveld and Dudek.

Friedel is a top keeper. He would have done well for us.
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Yeah I think I got the order wrong but the point is we've had a stable goalkeeper for quite a while and I'm very fucking thankful for that.

Friedel did come good, but sadly I don't remember him being that good for us.
 
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47681.msg1432743#msg1432743 date=1322350946]
He's a mouthy attention seeking fucker. Good keeper though.
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Wow, you *really* don't like him, do you gene ?
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I don't like goalies with big personalities and mouths. Just shut the fuck up, catch the ball and give it to one of the proper footballers.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47681.msg1432743#msg1432743 date=1322350946]
He's a mouthy attention seeking fucker. Good keeper though.
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You've never liked him Gene.

*Storms off*.
 
Fucking hell Count , that's a bit of a tabloid style thread name . Lots of stuff in that interview and the most 'controversial' part is highlighted . And it's not even that big a deal . He's not said the club is shit and he wants out now , he's been pretty positive but just said that in a few years he'd like to play for A.Madrid which is obviously a personal thing for him and his family . And if he goes in a few years he'll have been here what , 9,10 seasons plus ....that's the best part of his career . So are we at a point that any player who leaves liverpool or mentions leaving the club at some stage is a cunt ? Ridiculous .
 
Actually , i've reread some of the responses here and they are frankly useless, typical idiotic football fan responses. A player mentions how he's happy at the club but for very personal reasons would like to hopefully play for another club in a few seasons time . What do you get ? the usual shite ..."ah he's overrated " , "he's got a big mouth and should shut up" ....again , useless.
 
Is there anyone in our reserves that is capable of developing into a keeper as good as Pepe?

Because, if we are able to fill that spot on the cheap with a very good player, that could end up being the spring board we need to achieve bigger things. So this may after all be a good thing that bad. But we need the management to have the chops to take such a risk.

Us not having money can be an excuse to compete, but City having more money than us can never be a legitimate excuse. They can only field 11 players. Thems the rules.
 
He's a great keeper but Gene is right, he does have a big mouth and likes to be centre stage.

Red Zep, check out some videos on youtube of Spain returning home after the world cup. It's pretty much the Pepe 'chatty man' Renia show.
 
[quote author=Bradley link=topic=47681.msg1432771#msg1432771 date=1322368952]
He's a great keeper but Gene is right, he does have a big mouth and likes to be centre stage.

Red Zep, check out some videos on youtube of Spain returning home after the world cup. It's pretty much the Pepe 'chatty man' Renia show.
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What ? there is a world of difference between an arrogant "I am your god" Cristiano Ronaldo type and Reina who likes to grab the mic at a celebration . It's a whole different type of attention seeking 'centre stage' . It's like that embarrassing uncle who grabs the mic at a wedding to sing some Tom Jones number , maybe annoying but harmless. And it's got nothing to do with his ability as a keeper .

If he was banging on how useless the team are , he's too good for them and wants out then fair enough ...but he's never once done that . Yeah, yeah he supposedly thought about moving on but let's be fair , we were going nowhere fast , his Spanish mates were leaving ...how can it not have entered his thoughts. But he chose to stay and fight and that's what's most important.

"Big mouth" ! fucking hell .
 
I fear the day Pepe leaves Liverpool football club, more so than any other player.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47681.msg1432770#msg1432770 date=1322368783]
Is there anyone in our reserves that is capable of developing into a keeper as good as Pepe?

Because, if we are able to fill that spot on the cheap with a very good player, that could end up being the spring board we need to achieve bigger things. So this may after all be a good thing that bad. But we need the management to have the chops to take such a risk.

Us not having money can be an excuse to compete, but City having more money than us can never be a legitimate excuse. They can only field 11 players. Thems the rules.
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Seriously , what the fuck is going on in this thread ? Are you actually saying that we should be looking to replace Reina ? And that if we can do it with a youth player and sell Reina for big money then that , that 1 thing , could be the spring board to finally get us to the top ??????????

You do realise we've blown the best part of £70m on average players in Downing , Carroll and Henderson . So how the fuck would the money we get for reina be "the spring board".

But i'm guessing you are either pissed or on something , if not i worry for you .
 
*Wades in along side Red Zep*

He does all the 'mic' work for Spain and introduces the team at functions etc but his team mates seem to love it. They can all be seen in various videos roaring laughing and he seems good for morale. He is spoken highly of in any piece I read about the national team.

The majority of keepers are larger than life and often a bit mad and Pepe seems no different.

I like him, always have, always will. He is the best keeper in the league along with Joe Hart.
 
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47681.msg1432770#msg1432770 date=1322368783]
Is there anyone in our reserves that is capable of developing into a keeper as good as Pepe?

Because, if we are able to fill that spot on the cheap with a very good player, that could end up being the spring board we need to achieve bigger things. So this may after all be a good thing that bad. But we need the management to have the chops to take such a risk.

Us not having money can be an excuse to compete, but City having more money than us can never be a legitimate excuse. They can only field 11 players. Thems the rules.
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Seriously , what the fuck is going on in this thread ? Are you actually saying that we should be looking to replace Reina ? And that if we can do it with a youth player and sell Reina for big money then that , that 1 thing , could be the spring board to finally get us to the top ??????????

You do realise we've blown the best part of £70m on average players in Downing , Carroll and Henderson . So how the fuck would the money we get for reina be "the spring board".

But i'm guessing you are either pissed or on something , if not i worry for you .
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No i'm not pissed....and i actually agree with you on questioning Pepe's attitude etc being uncalled for.

I'm just merely saying that if he wants to go, and if we are able to get big money for him and replace him shrewdly, it could end up being the stepping stone. It's easier said than done, we all know how Arsenal are struggling with replacing the keeper, how we have wasted money that we had in our hand....etc.

Therefore i'm asking if there was anyone at all in our reserves who has shown signs of developing into a capable keeper, and assuming that we have learned from our mistakes last season. There is no need to be frothing on your mouth.....calm the fuck down.
 
To pick holes in that interview is just not on.... He says he is happy at the club as are his family but one day he has always had the ambition to play for Atletico like his dad did before him, but that would depend on whether they will want him.

What the fuck is wrong with that???
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=47681.msg1432756#msg1432756 date=1322354203]

Yeah I think I got the order wrong but the point is we've had a stable goalkeeper for quite a while and I'm very fucking thankful for that.

Friedel did come good, but sadly I don't remember him being that good for us.
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No, he wasn't any good for us, although our defence in those days was laughably bad. We had games where our back line was made up of Harkness, Bjornebye, Kvarme and Babb for God's sake!
 
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