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I’ve ventured into the fume for the first time since last weekend. 60 pages added to their Liverpool thread!!!!!!! They really get upset when those in the media are on our side. They have a massive chip on their shoulders.

They are also thick as pig shit.

[article]Loved how Sky had the compare and contrast Robertson and Kane tackles to talk up the injustice to the poor dippers. For a bit of balance can we have Milners two bookable offences played on repeat as well for that game they clinged onto dear life for. Should be six points clear not six you plastic bindipping cunts, fuck of back to Rhyl.
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[article]Maybe jota didn’t get red because salad dived last week
Maybe Kane didn’t get red because Milner got away with three against us
Maybe Liverpool drew because they can’t defend and rely on luck
Karma is a bitch and so is Jürgen Klopp
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[article]So let's get this straight, today in the dippers corner we had..

Tyler
Ratboy
Cat flap junior
Spit
The Sky presenter, Jones
The ref
The linesmen
The fourth official
The after match interviewer

Absolutely nauseating..

And they wonder why no fcuker can stand them..!
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[article]Unfathomably repugnant football club.

Everything about them is a disease, and fucking toxic.

The rags are pure shite, but these cunts are pure, unadulterated filth

Everything about them is rancid. The blue waffle of football clubs.
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[article]Robertson is the master of shithousery. He should of marched many times. Only the nauseous colour he wears has saved his arse.
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Eh?????? He’s the worst.
[article]Klipppety can't stand the pressure , if there is a close title race he will blame everyone and everything apart from his own deficiencies , the only time they won the title was when they were 18 points clear and coasting , because the whole club has no bottle , fans , owners , players or manager.
We in comparsion are serial winners and Pep is the coolest under pressure , when was the last time Pep blamed the referee for a defeat ? Its a rarity but Klippety will be at the refs every week from now until May trying to gain and advantage because the Dippers are second best and they f*cking know it.
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Yea, this didn’t happen.
[article]Bloke in the pub who supports them has completely lost it. Been texting me every conspiracy going today, including City have chosen the fixture schedule, are faking Covid test results so we can play positive players and that Sheikh Mansour has bribed referees.

I’ve just been laughing in response which is making him even more riled up.

They know they’re a mile off us.
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It was the exact opposite
[article]Wow, just watching a rerun on Sly of the Dippers v Spurs game. The bias and fawning of Tyler in favour of Liverpool is embarrassing even for him. I can only hope this increased unprofessionalism of his, is an indication he knows his days of commentating are numbered
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The inferiority complex again

[article]It’s because they’re the biggest set of insecure cunts that’s ever walked the face of the Earth.

Most of their fans live anywhere and everywhere and choose to support them, rather than be proud local fans of their local club (which is why it always makes me laugh when their fans get called Scousers, about 3% of their fanbase is Scouse!).

They choose to be Liverpool fans to live in some reflected glory like it makes them better people because the club they’ve just plucked out of thin air just happen to be the second most successful club in the country (amazing how these sad cunts don’t pluck Yeovil Town out of thin air, isn’t it? No, it’s always Liverpool and United… such a puzzle why!)

When anything threatens this reflected glory, the cunts start with this bollocks. Belittling the thing that threatens their reflected glory and makes a mockery of their chosen club. Every fibre of their beings is crippled with insecurity.
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Let’s change the subject and fast forward a few pages.


Eh??
[article]The Nations Captain Jordan "Hendo" Henderson is right about player welfare. He can dramatically decrease the risk of player harm though by having a quiet word with Robbo
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[article]Henderson can just do one. I know, he can call 90% of the 250k a week he earns danger money, and if he doesn't like it just bugger off and work for a living.

And while he is at it, he can stop taking unnecessary asthma medication and energy drinks. Allegedly 🙂
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[article]Slaves they are, slaves.
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Time for the Leicester game.

[article]A very strong team put out by Klippety tonight.

He's obviously desperate to win the trophy.
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or is it???
[article]Klopp is throwing the cup again. A strategically cunning giant.
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[article]Hopefully the dippers get spanked by five or six, they can spin it all they like it’s still a fucking good hiding at home.
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[article]Get twatted. Make it 6/7 please.

I actually think it would have been better to see them go through and have a two legged semi final to deal with in January but a spanking at home would be a nice consolation prize. With klopps high line against pace and their inabilkty to keep the ball Leicester can have a Christmas feast here.
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[article]Dippers taking the piss and disrespecting the trophy.

That said, hopefully all this moaning and world against us narrative from the past few days, coupled by a few bad results, will see them fall off a cliff over Christmas, which coupled with a prolonged by Chelsea sees us move double digits ahead in the table. Fingers crossed.
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[article]Not enough credit was given to Pep for our domestic treble……not for every team you scouse twats
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[article]Watching the spurs West Ham game mentioned the score in Leicester game 2-0 vardy both goals then they give another update 2-1 yet show the red scousers goal why did they not show vardy’s goals as well ..
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[article]Madison rocket.
3-1 to Leicester
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[article]i feel an emotional attachment to the carabao cup and seeing liverpool disrespect it like this makes me irrationally annoyed
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[article]Liverpool playing the twats into form for our game, a plague on both their fucking houses
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[article]What is the point of getting that far if your then gonna stick a team out like that,win this and it’s a semi final and within a sniff of the final,the red scousers and klopp obviously think it’s not worthy of winning,his record of trophies since he arrived at the scousers isn’t really that impressive yet it’s made out as if they are winning trophy after trophy by the media ..
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The crowd have woken up at Klanfield.

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Ref is cheating at dipper land I see

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[article]Milner is completely one of them. Absolute cunt.
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[article]This ref may as well have a dipper shirt on
Not even pretending to be fair
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[article]Didn’t think my hatred of dippers could increase but I detest them more everyday….
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Jota should be off elbow in the face.

This is the advantage you get when your manager moans like fuck next game you get cart Blanche for you’re players to do what they want without any come back by the referee!

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[article]Winning and timewasting?


🙂
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[article]oh ffs
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[article]Fukin knew it…..
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[article]Well done Leicester...

Brown envelopes delivered.
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[article]Big pair nashers grinning…….fuck off
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[article]i better not hear ever again rodgers being mentioned for city after pep
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[article]How shit do you have to be not to be able to beat this shit Liverpool side.
Bodgers you old fraud
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How entitled can a group of fans feel that they have a need to put dibs on the ******* Milk Cup?

Maybe if they were worth a light in Europe they wouldn't bother.
 
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I think by the looks of things he's put some good focus on the central midfielders, particularly trying to make their passing more progressive, and De Gea is still playing well, but I don't see any clear idea of how we're supposed to be playing out there from anyone else in the team. Pass sideways a few times very slowly and sloppily, get pushed back to the centre halves, hoof it long.

This direct German style of football only seems to work when you play with tempo and yet everyone is strolling around, moving both themselves and the ball at a snail's pace, and what's more nobody seems particularly worried about it. Surely the plan cannot be to play with a glacial tempo and rely on Maguire to turn into Paul Scholes with the ball? If it is the plan then Rangnick is appalling tactically, and if it isn't then what are we going to do about it? It seems to be getting worse rather than better.

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I underestimated us. I thought it might have taken to about mid January before supporters started to turn on him

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It hasn't been a good start. He has a very easy opening run of games, but also quite a hectic period and /or covid disruptions etc getting in the way of what is most important - time on the training pitch. In a way I think his job would be easier if he had a thinner squad, as he seems like he still have to try and experiment, when he actually should just play one team until they get a handle on what he is trying to do. Has an uphill battle to get the job permanently, we are very close to 4th place with a far superior squad to our competitors, and he will be expected to get fourth.

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It’s the players and was under Ole too.

We’ve entrusted the completely wrong kind of players over and over. Cavani James Fred Bruno Herrera, we need more players with industry to make things happen for the more skilful ones. The balance is all wrong. We are still carrying far too many prima donnas. Getting out fought every second week is no fun.

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It’s the players and was under Ole too.​
Same problem Conte had with spurs apparently.

Good manages get a tune out of players, Klopps reserves beat Leicesters first team last week.

We have plenty of good players who all look clueless.

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Really weird that we can play pretty much a perfect pressing style for 30 minutes after one training session, before turning back to shit Ole ball for the next 3 weeks.

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We've just been played off the park Vs Norwich and Newcastle. We got 4 PTS but didn't really deserve any.

This isn't a new manager bounce. It's an absolute mess. He's still picking all the same players who everyone wanted dropped.

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I cannot understand this 4222 bollocks. Too many players out of position. Zero width. Zero creativity. Zero defensive stability.

There’s a reason every top manager uses a variation of the 433.

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We've got the free 6-month trial version, which only gets you 1 goal per game.
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When the spine of your team is so weak and limited, it will of course have a knock on affect on the whole team. All great teams have that brilliant defense but bar Varane (awful today but hasnt played football for along time) who would you say is good enough?
Our defense is shocking and for me it sits squarely on Maguire. He's **** atrocious and wouldnt get near any other top team in the league but yet he's made utd captain and seems to be the 1st name start each match.
Utd will get no where with Maguire starting as our CB and he needs to be dropped or better yet sold



It's not a question of mentality or commitment. They all seem committed and energetic to me. The problem is lack of good judgement in the area of player recruitment. There is no coherent plan in position. It all seems very random. Players are signed on a whim rather than for sound tactical reasons. The biggest example of this is Ronaldo followed by Varane and Cavani. Now, those are all distinguished players but are now well past their best and each was signed simply because they were available - free agents. Klopp or Pep would never dream of making these kind of marquee signings. Sir Alex signed a few duds in his time but the majority conformed to the Manchester United ethos embodied by players who are skillful,mobile, hard working,adaptable, ambitious and even a little arrogant. Manchester City and Liverpool both have these in abundance. The right manager should get a lot more from the current Utd squad than they have produced over the past eighteen months. I don't think Ralf Rangnick is that man.


Bar De Gea the rest of them ought to be embarrassed to call themselves United players. Cowardly bunch of whingers. Not one decent tackle put in all game and never stopped moaning to the ref. Embarrassing


4 games under Rangnick, Young Boys game aside, it's like Ole never left.
It's absolutely not on RR, the players have an awful lot of accountability here.
Palace game they dominated and played well but still only 1-0.
Norwich deserved a point at least, DDG MOTM.
Tonight, DDG United MOTM again, not sure United even deserved a point.
I genuinely don't know where to start, barely a glimmer of a new manager bounce, everything so static. Just looks like a bunch of overpaid individuals turning up for a charity game. No heart, sloppy, strategy. Pure muck.
 
First game against Crystal Palace, we looked drilled in the first half, pressing all over the pitch, playing some direct, positive football. I really thought forward is the only way, and we will only look better when his tactics gel.
Instead, we reverted to our zombie passing shite football with today's horror show, like the icing on the cake.
Can someone explain to me why did we stop pressing teams after that Crystal Palace game? And how we managed to press them so well in his first game, after one training session?

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If you have not had many training sessions, then maybe stick to what works and the players are used to. Playing with no midfield, throwing all players bar the CBs high up when one of them is slow as piss and then lumping the ball up is not quite the coaching that was being hyped up.

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Looking more and more like the type of manager Watford would hire and then sack 2 months later

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Sorry this will end in tears. Playing 4-2-2-2 and players out of postion before you get a TEAM and the basics right is just a no-go. I see a professor playing out theories that only work in a well established team with players that fits the bill.
What I saw today was truly remarkabel bad. We where very lucky to play Newcastle.

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He is interim manager for a reason. He isn't bad but he isn't among the top 10 coaches in Europe I would say.

To be fair to him though, it's hard to implement a pressing style if you have a bunch of whiny prima donnas who sulk, complain and moan to the ref every time they lose the ball. With Gegenpressing taking risks and losing the ball is allowed, what isn't allowed is to not counter press the second you lost the ball and unfortunately very few of our players have the mindset required to play this style of football.

We are still paying the price for at least 8 years of horrendous squad building that brought us to this stage, and I'm afraid Rangnick won't fix that in his 8 months he has at this club.

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I'll just reiterate what I said when he came here: Ralf is *probably* not THE guy that's going to take us to the promised land. His history as a manager is ok by European standard but not top tier like a Klopp. Without that "hypeman" connection, pretty much no Redcafe posters would be the least bit excited about Ralf coming here.

The reason so many are so estatic about a guy they've rarely or never heard about before a Ole replacement was announced is beacuse he's been named as the inspiration of big name managers who have all surpassed their inspiration by a huge margin. Unless you happen to have followed the Bundesliga some 15 years ago, chances are you'd miss Ralf Ragnicks existence entirely before he came her.

Ragnicks primarily role here is still to help us find the new manager, and introduce something new at the second half in the season to a squad who aren't able to mesh like they did the previous season for whatever reason. Of course he's a wealth of knowledge, speaks with authority and commands a lot of respect. I'd love for him to be a success here, but unless the players start playing well on a personal level, nothing he does is going to have any impact.

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I'm not turning on him, I suspected when we got him that he was a knee jerk solution from the board based on what they thought the fans would like more than because this was the plan for the type of football they want us to play or what we're suited for. I've been hoping to see something to prove me wrong and so far it's only got worse really as the games have progressed. These aren't hard games and I expect more from a team that actually played quite well against Arsenal not too long ago.

Do you honestly think the plan all along from the board was to try to go to this style of football if Ole failed? Why did we sign Ronaldo for example if that was the plan? High energy, high press, righto here's a 36 year old striker.

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But at least [Ole's] team could score a goal or two with a moment of magic. Ralf has actually killed all our attacks. We have created virtually nothing in three games v Palace Norwich and Newcastle. Thats two of the worst teams in the league and a midtable Palace side. When we come up against a decent team we are going to lose. Id fancy Burley to get at least a point and Wolves to probably beat us. We don't even have the moments of individual brilliance to bail us out anymore.

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acnumber9 said:
Him not having managed any team to any great standard and being sporadically out of managerial work was probably our best clue. As interims go he may be ok but he’s not the answer long term and that should’ve been obvious when he was hired.​
I felt more confident with Carrick at the helm. Honestly.

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That's what makes it worse, we should be in the middle of a new manager bounce right about now, but the effort levels match those earlier this season under Ole.

Our new manager bounce lasted half an hour against Palace.

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The German equivalent of Damien Comolli.
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