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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
S
Squiggles
Guest
If we lost Masher, Eto'o would go a very, very long way into appeasing me.
---Torres-------Eto'o---------
---------Gerrard
= Frightening.
---Torres-------Eto'o---------
---------Gerrard
= Frightening.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884367#msg884367 date=1244475165]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34047.msg884376#msg884376 date=1244475613]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884367#msg884367 date=1244475165]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[/quote]
Thats very debatable. Gerrard was playing as a striker. And Alonso behind them
Thats why we were better and scoring a lot of goals.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884367#msg884367 date=1244475165]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[/quote]
Thats very debatable. Gerrard was playing as a striker. And Alonso behind them
Thats why we were better and scoring a lot of goals.
this is absolute nonsense and besides, illegal for him to talk directly to a player under contract. that is not how things work. no doubt it's just Barce tapping up via the media again, expect the same story to appear in their rag Sport and more articles. they did the same with Torres. if you ignore it long enough they'll go away and move on to the next target
D
David Byrne
Guest
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34047.msg884376#msg884376 date=1244475613]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884367#msg884367 date=1244475165]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[/quote]
Not sure how much cash is proposed.
Anyway, I'm not sure I'd take Eto'o over Mascherano. Mascherano is a beast who holds our DM and covers all over the field. I don't think Xabi will be able to do his job, and I'm not sure we can so easilly find someone who can.
As for Eto'o - he's been great for Barca, but there's no guarantee he can reproduce his scoring feats in England. I'm also not sure how he and Torres will combine.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884367#msg884367 date=1244475165]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884360#msg884360 date=1244474878]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=34047.msg884342#msg884342 date=1244473599]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
If that's the way you're looking at it... we might as well sell Torres or Stevie because we were top of the league when one of those were unavailable.
And when they were both available we finished 2nd as you say.
[/quote]
I came to Anfield in december to see Kuyt alone up front and tracking back to defend on corners, then saw Lucas come on for the last 10 minutes...against Hull.
These kind of decisions cost us the title last season.
We need another top striker.
[/quote]
You probably should have gone there in April/May - the weather was much better and the football much much better. ;D
[/quote]
And, oddly enough, we were playing with one up front.
Still, I agree that I'd take Masch for Eto'o + cash. I think Mascherano is more easily replaceable than Xabi.
[/quote]
Not sure how much cash is proposed.
Anyway, I'm not sure I'd take Eto'o over Mascherano. Mascherano is a beast who holds our DM and covers all over the field. I don't think Xabi will be able to do his job, and I'm not sure we can so easilly find someone who can.
As for Eto'o - he's been great for Barca, but there's no guarantee he can reproduce his scoring feats in England. I'm also not sure how he and Torres will combine.
D
David Byrne
Guest
Eto'o would be ace. It's not a case of playing him and Torres together, it's about having the firepower and strength in depth, especially with Fernando's dodgy hamstrings and unrelenting schedule. Won't happen anyway.
S
Squiggles
Guest
World-class players usually end up combining.
But even if they don't there's still enough individual talent between them to win matches.
Spain still won the EC without Villa and Torres operating in harmony
And as much as I love Masher, he's rather specialist and I think we could replace him.
But even if they don't there's still enough individual talent between them to win matches.
Spain still won the EC without Villa and Torres operating in harmony
And as much as I love Masher, he's rather specialist and I think we could replace him.
D
David Byrne
Guest
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884392#msg884392 date=1244476169]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No, but he's trying to provoke you into some kind of retaliation.
Don't fall into it.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No, but he's trying to provoke you into some kind of retaliation.
Don't fall into it.
D
David Byrne
Guest
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=34047.msg884393#msg884393 date=1244476260]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884392#msg884392 date=1244476169]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No, but he's trying to provoke you into some kind of retaliation.
Don't fall into it.
[/quote]
He's a real cunning linguist.
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884392#msg884392 date=1244476169]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No, but he's trying to provoke you into some kind of retaliation.
Don't fall into it.
[/quote]
He's a real cunning linguist.
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884392#msg884392 date=1244476169]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No Im not, there are other people who do that.
It was a simple question, dont be mad at me, I didnt say you were a cunt :'(
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884386#msg884386 date=1244476033]
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Is YNWA down again?
[/quote]
Are you the forum police?
[/quote]
No Im not, there are other people who do that.
It was a simple question, dont be mad at me, I didnt say you were a cunt :'(
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34047.msg884383#msg884383 date=1244475888]
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Who is Jorichiban?
Haha @ 20 million. And the rest.
Jorichiban (slimeball) can fuck off.
[/quote]
Who is Jorichiban?
[quote author=Mors link=topic=34047.msg884124#msg884124 date=1244459433]
Straight swap for Messi - Everyone's a winner.
[/quote]
we'd still be weak on the left hand side 😛
Straight swap for Messi - Everyone's a winner.
[/quote]
we'd still be weak on the left hand side 😛
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884408#msg884408 date=1244477497]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=34047.msg884124#msg884124 date=1244459433]
Straight swap for Messi - Everyone's a winner.
[/quote]
we'd still be weak on the left hand side 😛
[/quote]
Does he track back that Messi lad?
[quote author=Mors link=topic=34047.msg884124#msg884124 date=1244459433]
Straight swap for Messi - Everyone's a winner.
[/quote]
we'd still be weak on the left hand side 😛
[/quote]
Does he track back that Messi lad?
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=34047.msg884337#msg884337 date=1244473138]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
anybody who watched us play this season will know that we played by far and away our best football towards the end of the season. Whilst playing 4231. Solid, exciting, attacking football with plenty of goals and some superb results. And yet some folk want us to go back to 442. Madness.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34047.msg884332#msg884332 date=1244472876]
madness to contemplate breaking up the gerrard torres axis. if masherano leaves than a central midfielder has to arrive.
[/quote]
We were top of the table with 4-4-2.
We finished 2nd with 4-5-1.
Madness.
[/quote]
anybody who watched us play this season will know that we played by far and away our best football towards the end of the season. Whilst playing 4231. Solid, exciting, attacking football with plenty of goals and some superb results. And yet some folk want us to go back to 442. Madness.
A serious question, who was the last "top" club team to win a major trophy playing a standard 4-4-2?
D
David Byrne
Guest
Yernited?
Sir Ryan, Kanchelski's, etc.
I think formations have always just been a means to an end and to win titles you need to be flexible and need good players who can slot into a variety of roles. It's not a rigid game.
Sir Ryan, Kanchelski's, etc.
I think formations have always just been a means to an end and to win titles you need to be flexible and need good players who can slot into a variety of roles. It's not a rigid game.
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